The Epstein Files Don't End Here

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Nathan Brady: Hey everyone and welcome to another episode of the Blue Sedition Podcast. Mike was waiting for it. We're here. We're the first and only Blue Sedition podcast. Uh,
Mike Smith: accurate.
Nathan Brady: I'm I'm Nate Brady alongside Hey,
Mike Smith: I am Mike Smith. Everybody welcome.
Nathan Brady: how's it going? Welcome. Hey, Mike. How are you? How's it going today?
Mike Smith: I'm doing okay.
Nathan Brady: Don't Hey,
Mike Smith: I'm doing all right.
Nathan Brady: you're doing you're doing just okay.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: How are you?
Nathan Brady: uh, it's hard to say, you know. Um, I think, you know,
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: for for for me and probably all of our our listeners, you know, mental health is uh is really important right now.
Mike Smith: It's a
Nathan Brady: And um it's it's very difficult to wake up every

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Mike Smith: struggle.
Nathan Brady: morning, read the news um and then three minutes later when the news cycle changes read it again and just ah it's it's hard,
Mike Smith: It's it's it's a tough one.
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: Um it
Nathan Brady: It's tough.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: We have uh speaking of news uh we do cover some of those things. We have a bunch of things to talk about today. Um, from uh raids on election offices to raids on ex offices to Epstein files and Bill and Hillary and uh all Yeah, sounds sounds like a lot. Um, but let's go over it. What do you want to start with today, Mike? What are you feeling like? What are you What are you feeling?
Mike Smith: Oh man. I mean, we got it. We We spent we spent a lot yesterday going over the the new released Epstein files.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: I feel like we should start off there.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: We've obviously covered them in the past.
Nathan Brady: So,

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Mike Smith: Uh there's a a new trove of files that was released for the public.
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: Um,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: and there's been some interesting, you know,
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: revelations and names to come out of those uh those Epstein
Nathan Brady: so another uh 3 million additional pages plus images and videos
Mike Smith: files.
Nathan Brady: uh were produced under the Epstein Files Transparency Act, of course, which uh all of those videos and images and uh files should have been produced a lot sooner,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: but we've got another trove after the Department of justice uh was allowed to go through for some reason and redact and remove. Um they've even deleted videos that they posted for whatever reason.
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: Um but as
Mike Smith: they've they've accident I mean, you know, they're not sending their best. So, they have at the very least accidentally posted uh I guess
Nathan Brady: No.
Mike Smith: CSAM or alleged Cam material by accident because they weren't supposed to release it.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: They were just supposed to name those sorts of things and then not release, but that you know they they they're the best.

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Mike Smith: So, they accident release that and had to remove it later. So, that's good. Spreading the word and all that.
Nathan Brady: I mean, they were really good at redacting Trump's face from a lot of the images, but for some reason, nude young girls, they were like, "I don't know. Let it let let's just throw it all out there. That that part's fine."
Mike Smith: Yeah. And and I mean I I haven't seen any of the photo,
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: like you said, photos of Trump's face being redacted,
Nathan Brady: yeah,
Mike Smith: but his name comes up quite a bit in several of the documents when you just search for Trump. uh you you find some there's actually a lot of names that come up and and you alluded to,
Nathan Brady: it's
Mike Smith: you know, the Clintons, but also Bill Gates and Elon Musk and and uh the former Prince Andrew that, you know, all sorts of who you would expect to show up in these things shows up in these
Nathan Brady: Yeah. So, I guess let's talk a little bit about those people.

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Mike Smith: things.
Nathan Brady: Um, Bill Gates is is a fun one. Bill Gates uh got it looks like he got an STD from uh from one of the
Mike Smith: someone.
Nathan Brady: women uh from someone maybe one of the men uh from someone on Epstein's Island
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um and then was requesting antibiotics um which you you should do that through your doctor I guess but I
Mike Smith: Oh, I was going to ask, is there a is it just that insurance is too expensive even for Bill Gates that
Nathan Brady: guess
Mike Smith: he can't get a doctor appointment? Is that the problem?
Nathan Brady: yeah That could be it. Uh but yeah, no. Uh I I don't know. I guess I guess when you're running an operation like that, um you have to offer some kind of CVS internal CVS pharmacy.
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: I don't know if Epstein's Island had its had its own,
Mike Smith: wow. Yeah,
Nathan Brady: but yeah.
Mike Smith: I'm sure it had some form of pharmacy,
Nathan Brady: So,

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Mike Smith: but but geez.
Nathan Brady: yeah. So, uh, these were these were apparently Russian girls. Uh, in in two emails that Epstein wrote in, uh, 2013, it claimed that Bill Gates had extrammarital sex with Russian girls and contracted a uh, sexually transmitted infection and needed antibiotics. Uh, and the emails also claimed that a Gates associated doctor helped him
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: get drugs and facilitate elicit trrists with Russian women and married women.
Mike Smith: Awesome.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: Awesome.
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: Uh, I'll also just point out to to pepper this in,
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: but uh, uh, Melinda Gates, his ex-wife, was on NPR today and and she confirmed that she ended the marriage between her and Bill Gates because of those allegations that were contained in the Epstein files would have come to light. You know, extrammarital affairs and sexually transmitted diseases and things like that.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: So, at the very least, she's confirmed that those are real stories from that,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: you know, are in the Epstein files and maybe

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Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: more.
Nathan Brady: new allegations in the Epstein files also s suggested uh uh more uh more of a link between Trump and Epstein than we previously thought. Although I think a lot of us who are not who don't buy child predator uh gear with their name and flags and stuff already knew this, but um more times uh on Epstein's jet than previously thought. uh more allegations uh more unsealed kind of court documents uh showing allegations from women against Trump uh that Trump liked to uh grab and measure genitals which is I what
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we should describe it, but that'll that'll get us blocked on all of our our stations very very
Nathan Brady: no um yeah
Mike Smith: quickly.
Nathan Brady: we have to be careful what we
Mike Smith: But it's let's just say that they're they're not they're not um they're not they're not good, you know, the way in which he acts uh is just kind of gross in
Nathan Brady: And the way in which he acts though aligns with what we've heard from him in you know you

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Mike Smith: the Sure.
Nathan Brady: remember you remember the grab him by the p****
Mike Smith: Yeah, the fame. Right.
Nathan Brady: uh you know audio that leaked and everyone's like oh that's just locker room talk.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: It wasn't locker room talk.
Mike Smith: It wasn't though.
Nathan Brady: It was much much much more than locker room talk.
Mike Smith: No. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um, let's see. So,
Mike Smith: It's it's crazy to me that that they let some of this stuff get out.
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: I mean, like, okay,
Nathan Brady: mean
Mike Smith: I'm a cynic, so when I hear, oh, they released a bunch more Epstein files, my mind immediately thought, okay, they've released a bunch of stuff, like we've said in the past about like Bill Clinton and, you know, the libs and all this stuff, and they would just keep Trump out of it. I just figured that would happen. But the fact that they're letting this kind of stuff get out there is either there's much worse stuff or this is it. And I'm not sure where I think we've landed.

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Nathan Brady: Oh, no. I so so
Mike Smith: You think that people will stomach this Trump stuff that's now come out through these this latest release and
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: that's why they allowed
Nathan Brady: well I think the tide is already I think the tide is already turning and and I say this anecdotally and I think I said
Mike Smith: it?
Nathan Brady: this maybe a couple of months ago on the pod that I knew some people who were kind of hardcore MAGA that were like um you know if if this Epstein stuff is is starting to to wear on me a little bit and now I think the the release of more and more information like this has people um who are hardcore MAGA folks going wait a minute because here's the thing here's the
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: truth right like they were right the I you you got to hand it to MAGA they said that there was a Listen hear me out hear me out MAGA I'm gonna hand it to you so everyone hold on to your seats here for a second okay they were right

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Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: There was a an elite group of
Mike Smith: Yes. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: pedophiles that were se and sexual predators that were not
Mike Smith: Sexual predators at the very least
Nathan Brady: only uh doing everything they said,
Mike Smith: trafficking women and girls
Nathan Brady: but there w there was pizza involved too as code.
Mike Smith: and we Okay.
Nathan Brady: You know, the the the listen you guys No,
Mike Smith: We We don't know if pizza was good or
Nathan Brady: no, no,
Mike Smith: not.
Nathan Brady: no, no, no. This is true that not just what we looked at the other day.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: We were we we were kind of digging in on some of this, but there is actually a number of emails that reference pizza and food. Oh, that was some delicious pizza. Can't wait to have that pizza again.
Mike Smith: It was pizza and grape soda,
Nathan Brady: You don't say that.
Mike Smith: right? Wasn't it like I don't
Nathan Brady: You Yeah. You never You never in your life have I h have I gone to anybody's house and

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Mike Smith: know.
Nathan Brady: had and they ordered pizza and I send a follow-up email telling them how much I loved the pizza. Okay. Unless the their wife made it and I was trying to be polite and I've
Mike Smith: You'd say it at the at the door,
Nathan Brady: that's
Mike Smith: you know, as you're leaving for the evening. You'd say,
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: "Thanks for the invitation. The food was great. I loved the pizza." And then you head home, right?
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: You don't go home and send an email when you get there.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Um so so
Mike Smith: These are emails coming from people who have stayed at his residence on his island. So, it's like why are you sending an email saying thanks for the pizza instead of like thanks for putting me up on your you know luxury island in the you know south wherever in in the southern and
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: beautiful and you're like thanks for the pizza not thanks for letting me crash on your couch or

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Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: whatever. It's
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: weird.
Nathan Brady: so, so like I said, you know, limited limited you got to hand it to them. They were right. They were wrong about who was going to get to the bottom of it because the guy that they thought was going to do that is he was literally at the top,
Mike Smith: What is at the bottom of it? Oh,
Nathan Brady: the middle, and the bottom of all of it. And a lot of them are starting to realize it.
Mike Smith: gross.
Nathan Brady: I I'll there was a funny SNL skit this past Saturday. um if if you had a chance to watch it where a woman uh sits her family down. There's like four her four kids are on the couch and the dad the dad is in the chair and she
Mike Smith: Mhm.
Nathan Brady: says and she she says I have to I have to come out and say something and I want and I don't want to see any reaction out of any of you.

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Nathan Brady: And so she said let's try it. She said a couple of things. She said people were reacting. I said no no reaction. And then she came out and she said, "I'm starting to think that maybe Donald Trump isn't good for the country and maybe he was involved in this Epstein thing." And it was is a really good skit, but it reminds me of what what actually is happening. These people, some of them are, to use the phrase they like to use, waking up, right? and realizing like,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: oh s***, if this Mike, if this is what we're getting right now and this is and this is the Trump's
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: DOJ kind of scrubbing through the files and holding back.
Mike Smith: Right. Right.
Nathan Brady: Holy s***. I can't imagine what's in
Mike Smith: Yeah. That's what I'm getting at here. You know,
Nathan Brady: there.
Mike Smith: it's like the people who are innately very distrusting of the federal government from the get-go anyway are going to be saying the same things we are, which is like there's no way that you have released everything and and there's not more involving Trump.

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Mike Smith: There's just no way.
Nathan Brady: There's there's no way, right? Um and
Mike Smith: But then I have to ask the question, Nate,
Nathan Brady: okay,
Mike Smith: this stuff existed in from from uh before 2019 because that's obviously that's when he that's when Epstein right ongoing investigation.
Nathan Brady: ongoing investigation. Ongoing investigation is the is the answer.
Mike Smith: So 20 to 20. Are you telling me that the that Biden's DOJ from 20 to 24 didn't have a lot or all of this these documents and couldn't have and they were just too
Nathan Brady: No, I believe they did. I believe they did.
Mike Smith: cowardly to put them out there?
Nathan Brady: And I And it it's a combination of things.
Mike Smith: Are there too many Clinton Obamas in
Nathan Brady: I'm not going all I'm not going all in on the uh the side
Mike Smith: there?
Nathan Brady: of the liberals that are saying like, "Oh, they didn't release it because it was an active investigation." It was an active investigation, but we we know that there were high-profile Democrats very closely related to to to Biden, uh, friendship with Biden that,

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Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um, didn't want this information coming out. I mean,
Mike Smith: And so, okay,
Nathan Brady: look at look at
Mike Smith: so your position is that the fix was in when Biden was in office.
Nathan Brady: this.
Mike Smith: They could have done it. They could have tried to to land everything on Trump and they didn't because too many friends would take strays.
Nathan Brady: I mean, too many high high-profile people. We're talking about everybody's donors are in this.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Every,
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: you know,
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: everybody's in this,
Mike Smith: that's a good point.
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: I guess if if this comes out with Bill Gates,
Nathan Brady: know,
Mike Smith: you know, and he's never donating to the Democrats again if they're the ones to release it. Okay, fine.
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: Fine.
Nathan Brady: So, was the was the fix in I mean,
Mike Smith: Plausible.
Nathan Brady: come on. This is just obvious. I don't at this point, is it even a conspiracy?

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Nathan Brady: I mean, look at this.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Look at the people in this thing. You got from from from nobbodyies like Brett Ratner, you know, actors and directors all the way up to, you know, high profile,
Mike Smith: the current president unfortunately and past president and billionaires
Nathan Brady: presidents, ex-presidents,
Mike Smith: and we didn't even talk about
Nathan Brady: princes,
Mike Smith: Elon.
Nathan Brady: Elon literally begging to go to Epstein's island and and make sure he doesn't he's he's not looking for a quiet time
Mike Smith: No. What's the party?
Nathan Brady: he was looking for the biggest rager possible and he's been crashing out on X the last couple of days. I no longer have an X account. I don't I know you don't have an X account.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: So, so I've only seen bits and pieces of it,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: but he has, I guess for the last 48, 72 hours, just been pointing the finger at so many other different people at high-profile celebrities and billionaires and calling them out for their connection with with Epstein.

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Nathan Brady: Um, he's he's he's crashing out.
Mike Smith: Do you remember when he was head of Doge and then and then Trump or maybe it wasn't Trump, maybe it was somebody in the cabinet basically asked him to go. They were like, "You can you your job is done now. You can go back and do your thing." And he got pissy about it and he tweeted, "Uh, Trump's not going to release the Epstein files because he's in them." And it was like up for a full weekend before he
Nathan Brady: I do,
Mike Smith: decided to delete it and like bend fences.
Nathan Brady: right? Of
Mike Smith: But imagine what are you doing if you I guess if you're Elon,
Nathan Brady: course
Mike Smith: you probably assumed you were in the Epstein files. Why would you like start that fight? What an
Nathan Brady: I I don't know. I mean,
Mike Smith: idiot.
Nathan Brady: because Epstein is a manchild and because he was he was attacked and hurt and he did
Mike Smith: Eli
Nathan Brady: the first thing that he thought would hurt more and probably a little piece of him thought that

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Mike Smith: Eli.
Nathan Brady: those I mean Trump's in charge, the DOA DOJ is in charge. They're not releasing the Epstein files, you know.
Mike Smith: So,
Nathan Brady: So he
Mike Smith: but if he thinks he's safe, why,
Nathan Brady: thought
Mike Smith: you know, why shoot that one across the bow? That just is going to sink both of you. Yeah, it's a weird bluff is all I'm saying.
Nathan Brady: I will I I'll tell you this, okay? And please don't take and nobody take this the wrong way. the way I read the emails from Musk. Okay, there's there it's impossible for us to know whether or not he knew there were underage
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: girls there. You have to assume he did. Okay, but the way I read the emails was he likes to party. We've seen him in Germany, in other clubs. We've seen him going to these like raves. It seemed like he truly wanted to go for a party.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Okay.

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Nathan Brady: And follow-up emails showed he never actually made it there.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Like all of those trips that he had planned never never uh you know they they all fell through. So
Mike Smith: and and apparently all of his correspondence were in the years 2012 and 13 and that was so
Nathan Brady: So still a man a man of his wealth and
Mike Smith: far.
Nathan Brady: connection. I have to believe he knew what was going on over there,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: but in the files and he has and he probably knew this. There is never any mention of him um e engaging. So there's probably no photos of him. There's probably no video of him and there's pro and there's these two emails where he actually never made it to the
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: island. So he's he probably wasn't afraid at that level, especially if he actually didn't do anything um with with any underage girls. So he knows there's no video of me. There's no photos of me.

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Nathan Brady: You know,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: that's not to say that he didn't have the intent to like the want to go and
Mike Smith: And and you know,
Nathan Brady: to be involved.
Mike Smith: everybody knew about Epstein basically from the time I mean trafficking girls uh young girls and women uh from about 2009, right? Because that's when he took that sweetheart deal to get out of hot water.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: So, everybody in the know as of 2009 knows,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: okay, he's at the very least trafficking women illegally and taking them to his island and doing things with them.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: And probably anybody who's going to his island is doing the same thing. Now, I don't know if they had alleged any, you know, underage girls at that point, but like you say, Elon's in the know at this point and he's like, if I want to have a good time, I can go to his island and that's the place to have that good time with those girls because he's again,
Nathan Brady: right?

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Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: he sent those emails in 2012,
Nathan Brady: so,
Mike Smith: 2013. So, it's plenty of time for for people to be aware of it.
Nathan Brady: right. Um let's see some other high-profile names on there. Uh Brett Ratner we already talked about. There's a photo that's showing him with Epstein and two women on a couch. The photo is redacted, the the women's faces,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: but looking at the the photo, they appear to be pretty young.
Mike Smith: Which we will not be putting up on the pot by the
Nathan Brady: No.
Mike Smith: way.
Nathan Brady: Um they they appear to be they appear to be pretty young. Um, and of course there's already Brett Ratner already has, you know, several women that have come forward with sexual uh uh harassment claims against him.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Um, so, you know, Richard Branson,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Jay-Z, uh, Harvey Weinstein, of course, obviously, um, the I mean,
Mike Smith: Again,
Nathan Brady: the list goes on and on.
Mike Smith: no surprises for a lot of these names.

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Mike Smith: A lot of these names,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: you've heard this sort of allegation in the past.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: You sort of expected to hear them coming out of the Epstein files. I think that was one of the the things that I know at least I was Nate, you probably were too. When the first round of of docs were released of the Epste files, we were like, there are no names in here. You know, we thought we were going to get like the little black book and they gave us like nothing almost.
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: They gave like pictures of Epstein's empty closets with like exhibit A lit, you know, on the floor beneath them. You're like, this is not anything. What is this? But now you're like, aha, here are all the names. I'm seeing the names now. and communications between the parties and and we're still
Nathan Brady: There's there's another one um and I I never I don't know how to say his name because I've only ever seen it

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Mike Smith: digging.
Nathan Brady: written especially in the last year or whatever, but Peter Atia who is a uh CBS News contributor and Barry Weiss wanted to
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: bring him on as like I I I forget the role um ju just in like the past week and he's he's in the Epstein Files over 1,700 times. uh crude personal emails from 2015 to 2018 um that that show kind of how friendly he was with Epstein and OB and that he kind of you know all of these jokes about women and anatomy and all this other stuff. He was clearly in on uh what Epstein was doing and Barry Weiss um refuses to um because the because CBS was like, "Yeah, no. uh we're going to we're going to pull this guy. We're not going to allow him. And Barry Weiss was like, "Oh, yeah, we are. No, we're stand I'm standing by this." Which is just mind-blowing to me. Um I mean, it it's
Mike Smith: It's it's part of the problem, right? Because like you were saying before,

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Nathan Brady: just
Mike Smith: we are going to see certain people who follow the news and this will be inescapable. Like there are people on the right who watch Fox News or Newsmax or ON or whatever, but they also are online and they're getting a lot of people talking about this kind of thing. And even though Fox isn't going to air any of this stuff, you know, ONN's not going to air any of this stuff, they're going to see it and they're going to have the opportunity to go, "Well, wait, why isn't Fox talking about this? Why? What? This this is what we wanted for all these years. I wanted to see the Epstein files and we want to put all these people in jail. Why aren't we doing anything? And you're going to lose, you know, some portion of the voters of your voter base to that sentiment, I would
Nathan Brady: and and you know the why aren't we doing anything is a really good point.
Mike Smith: imagine,
Nathan Brady: So this this is the thing where you know Barry Weiss is like no why should I fire him?

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Nathan Brady: Why should I whatever.
Mike Smith: right? Why would we have
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: accountability?
Nathan Brady: right and and that's that that's a really great point because currently it seems like there is no accountability. Now, we have uh congressional committees that are as they are receiving these these documents are um uh looking through them, breaking them down. Right now, the Republicans are in charge of all committees because they do control the House. So, they're in charge of those congressional committees. Um but I think that there is there has been a shift
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: in um in these committees. So I feel like as as we as we alluded to earlier, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton are going to testify.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um, I feel like there may be some accountability coming here very shortly, but we we it it it needs to be more than let's just get the Democrats because I think as you and I have said countless times in the past, I don't give a s*** if it's a libertarian,

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Mike Smith: No.
Nathan Brady: a Democrat, an independent,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: a Republican, if you hurt bills are in.
Mike Smith: Yeah. No.
Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: And we we've had this conversation with like staunchly right leaning folks that we interact with before and and
Nathan Brady: it
Mike Smith: and we we've said it to them. We're like, I don't care if they find Obama or Jill Stein in these things. I whoever is doing it,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: they need to be held accountable.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: They need to be brought to justice.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: And that that like is the one place where you know a MAGA person will look you in the eye and go you're damn right.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: And you're like well let's do that then because I don't see anybody going to jail yet.
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: The only one who went to jail was was Epstein. And and I think somebody Okay. I tinfoil hat time.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: Somebody
Nathan Brady: Now, well, no,

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Mike Smith: No.
Nathan Brady: I have I don't know. Wait, stand by a second. I have audio playing there for some reason. No, this is hilarious. For some reason, yeah, there there's like light jazz playing. It's probably from a news article that I clicked on here.
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: you've got some some tab open that's autoplay.
Nathan Brady: so you were you were you were um going into this thing.
Mike Smith: I was ranting and raving with some like some easy listening in going on in the background.
Nathan Brady: It was kind of funny. Yeah.
Mike Smith: That's pretty great.
Nathan Brady: And I still can't find it.
Mike Smith: Okay. All I was gonna say is is that my tin foil hat conspiracy theory is that Epstein didn't kill himself. And I know that there that probably makes me crazy,
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: but there's clearly if that's the case, let's just take it as a given for the sake of argument that that that that's the case, right? Let's say that.

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Mike Smith: Then that means that there's somebody who thought that all of this would go away when Epstein went away. And to be fair, Trump continues to parrot that sentiment. Every time Epstein comes up, he's like, "Why are we still talking about this dead guy?
Nathan Brady: Oh.
Mike Smith: We should stop talking about this dead guy." And I'm like, "Well, you think that, but I don't think the people think
Nathan Brady: Okay,
Mike Smith: that."

Nathan Brady: Okay. So, the the Epstein didn't kill himself thing. It's really I mean, when So, if there was ever a guy that didn't actually kill himself and we've seen whistleblowers that um said they weren't,

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Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: you know, hey, just so you know, I'm not suicidal. And then those people died, tragic car accident, whatever. I you know, yeah, we definitely wonder about a lot of those cases, but man, after you see all of the people involved and connected with Epstein, if there ever was a guy that didn't kill himself,
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: I don't know. I don't
Mike Smith: that I I just think that the timeline's too messy now.
Nathan Brady: know.
Mike Smith: Like there's so much nonsense going on all the time that I can't I can't not believe in I maybe that's the reason that the the MAGA folks are so conspiratorial is because everything's crazy and so all these conspiracies have to be true too. Maybe that's this is my this is my arc now. I'm going to start becoming a conspiracy theorist and put on tinfoil hat and start raving in the park.
Nathan Brady: I mean,
Mike Smith: I don't know.
Nathan Brady: I I I do agree if there if there ever was though. I mean, but but who knows?

00:29:33

Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: We And and that's beside the point anyway because because now we have a list
Mike Smith: Beside the point,
Nathan Brady: of all the names we have. We talked about this before. I think the dump um was something like 14 terabytes or more. It's a huge number.
Mike Smith: huge. Yeah. If you're not a computer person, it's
Nathan Brady: That is not if if if you're not a computer person,
Mike Smith: gigantic.
Nathan Brady: okay, that's not doc documents don't take up that much space.
Mike Smith: No.
Nathan Brady: Okay,
Mike Smith: No videos.
Nathan Brady: this is images and probably mostly videos.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: And we and and I guarantee you, okay, that if the DOJ is putting images and videos in in these drops, they are not ones that include Trump.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: And we've seen some videos now. We saw a video of Epstein chasing two girls around his kitchen island.
Mike Smith: Yeah. In a kitchen,
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: man.
Nathan Brady: you know, there there's videos out there and I forget which rep it was that is on the oversight committee.

00:30:32

Nathan Brady: Um, I just saw him yesterday say, "We've been looking at some of the videos that are coming out and they are truly disturbing."
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: So they they as a part of their job basically have to look at the videos as the firewall to the rest of us so they know which ones can and cannot be released to the
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: public because obviously some of them are going to be maybe pornographic in nature and worse. Um, the emails themselves that just discuss some of the things that have gone on, you know, on the island or in visitation with with Epstein are pretty horrific in and of themselves. you know, there's there's some instances of torture and I mean, not like bondage, but like torture is actually brought up and it's it's all very uh uh gross and and so can't imagine anybody wanting that job to have to go through and and identify what is and is not publicly
Nathan Brady: Yeah. So,
Mike Smith: viewable.
Nathan Brady: let me read the statement from uh Representative Robert Garcia, Democrat and ranking member of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

00:31:44

Nathan Brady: He says, "These new images are a disturbing look into the world of Jeffrey Epstein and his island. We are releasing these photos and videos to ensure public transparency in our investigation and to help piece together the full picture of Epstein's horrific crimes. We won't stop fighting until we deliver justice for the survivors. It's time for President Trump to release all the files. Now, what's really interesting in that statement is it's not even on President Trump to release all the files. He signed HR,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I think it was 4055 into law, which directs the DOJ to release all of the Epstein files. So, it's no. So calling say calling on President Trump to release all the files, he did the thing that he was he needed to do, but you know that behind the scenes he is uh telling his DOJ, directing the DOJ what to do,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Um and so um yeah, I I saw it was Robert Garcia. I saw him in a news interview where he was a little bit more like uh I can't even believe some of the I can't stomach some of the things that were that we're seeing here.

00:33:00

Mike Smith: Right. Yeah, that
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: um yeah, I guess it's it's probably time.
Mike Smith: So,
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: hold on. Hold on. So, we were talking about accountability,
Nathan Brady: wow.
Mike Smith: right? Because we want these people to to be held accountable. We don't really care about the partisan or nonpartisan nature of it. If blue or red, hold them accountable. But that's on the federal side. That's on like the the um the policing side of things, right? But there are other types of accountability. And I think and Nate, I I correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you were alluding to this earlier uh when we were talking about public opinion. And so just want to quickly point out that there was uh a special election held recently in Texas where uh some public opinion may have shown its ugly head.
Nathan Brady: I it's it's shame on me because we were going over the show notes today and the the news cycle is so crazy and and you know you and I we had a chance

00:34:05

Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: to u talk about this already amongst ourselves.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Uh but yeah, there was a very big election in Texas, a special election for both a congressional seat uh and a state senate seat um in which the Democrats turned a ruby red uh district blue. And there's there's a couple of big points to be made about this. So, I believe uh Trump won the district in 2024 by 17 points.
Mike Smith: Yes.
Nathan Brady: Um the Democrat that won won the district by 14 points.
Mike Smith: Yes. Taylor Remmit.
Nathan Brady: Uh Taylor Remmit uh who won the state senate senate seat, right? Uh won by 14 points.
Mike Smith: It's a 31 point
Nathan Brady: And and what's really notable about this is that when you look at the breakdown of
Mike Smith: swing.
Nathan Brady: voters, it I believe the the breakdown was 35% Democrat voted. So registered Democrat voted in that election.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: So So think about this for a second. Okay, the the Democrat won by 14 points.

00:35:26

Nathan Brady: So 6436, right? Or maybe whatever. You know, I didn't know if there was a third party or whatever, but they won by 14 points, which means that it wasn't even if every single Democrat that voted in that election, that wouldn't have been enough to get that person over the line. Independents and Republicans decided that it doesn't the the the
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: D and the R, it doesn't matter anymore. It's a rebuke of a Trumpbacked candidate
Mike Smith: Right. Yes. And it was it it was very interesting to see um I'm I'm I'm searching in vain for
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: the exact statistics on it, but but it basically boiled down to this is not the GOP not showing up for their candidate. They came out in the same numbers for their candidate largely as they did for Trump, but this is just completely losing the independent vote, like completely because it's a 31 point swing that the Dems won by. So like the Dems and the Reps voted the same and most of the independents and like you said a nonzero margin of of Republican voters as well, the independents swung that vote wildly because they are not pleased with the policies being enacted by the Trump administration right now.

00:36:39

Mike Smith: They see that what's going on in Minnesota. They see what's going what was going on in Los Angeles.
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: They see what's going on in DC and they're they're like, "This is not what we thought we were going to be voting for. We didn't want we don't want this. Change this.
Nathan Brady: this this is Texas.
Mike Smith: It's it's it's Texas in farmer country.
Nathan Brady: Texas.
Mike Smith: Like it's it's absurd.
Nathan Brady: And it's important to note all 150 Texas House seats and a lot of the Texas Senate seats will are on the ballot in 2026. So,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: uh, it it could be I I don't like this blue wave stuff because and I'm I'm going to explain part of the reason why because the the vote
Mike Smith: Let's talk about
Nathan Brady: blue no matter who crowd drives me absolutely mad. Okay.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I be because of you when you look at Jeffre and you look at Schumer and you look at what we're doing to stop everything that that this deranged president is doing right now.

00:37:43

Nathan Brady: There is there is no push back. They are the party that is just rolling over. And it and and you might as well put an R next to Schumer and Jeffrey's name. Okay? and you might as well put an R next to the Apacbacked candidates or the ones that aren't going to fight for the American people but are going to fight for the donor class and the elite class. Okay? So then having a D next to their name means nothing. So when we say a blue wave, it's almost like uh um uh what's his name? You know his name because we just talked about him the other day. Pinkman, I think. Uh or or uh No.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um when he says, "What kind of American are you in that in that Netflix movie?" Yeah.
Mike Smith: Oh, not Pigman. Yeah. But but from from that Yeah. Yeah. What kind of American are you?
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. What kind of What I want to know is what kind of Democrat are you?

00:38:27

Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Okay. Are you the Democrat that's going to get into Congress and going to get and go, "Oh, Apac is saying I'll never have to pay for another thing again in my life. that I'll retire in four years in two years or six years from Congress or the Senate and I'll be gold. Okay. So, I'm gonna I'm that's me now. That's the type of Democrat I am. Or are you going to be the Democrat that's like, "Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna probably have to work for the rest of my life. You know, I'm gonna have to take side gigs as a consultant. I'm going to have to do whatever, but I'm not giving in to the to the donor and elite
Mike Smith: I'm going to be Bernie Sanders and doing this damn job for a hundred
Nathan Brady: classes for a hundred years." and yelling and
Mike Smith: years.
Nathan Brady: screaming at the top of my lungs, but fighting for the working class if we had. That's the kind of Dem I want to see.

00:39:16

Nathan Brady: So, but I still think there's going to be a blue
Mike Smith: You know, I I do too, but I think it's going to be different.
Nathan Brady: wave.
Mike Smith: At least I hope it's going to be different. So, I want to point out there are a couple of Dems that that we would like other dems to be like. Cat Abigazalis Abigazella is the top of the list for me.
Nathan Brady: I think it's not. Yeah. Right.
Mike Smith: I think she put out a flyer today showing it says you decide the type of leader you want in Congress. And it's a graph showing where donations are coming from. And overwhelmingly, you know, at least I don't know 66% of hers are from small individual donations of under $200. That's not surprising for a grassroots campaign.
Nathan Brady: Right. Right.
Mike Smith: and you look at all of her competitors in the field and it's either large out
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: ofstate donations or large in-state individual donations that are different. So like think about like your your packs or your fundraiser meals.

00:40:15

Mike Smith: Yeah, there you go.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: So you want the person with with uh that that orange in their in their
Nathan Brady: This is Yeah. So,
Mike Smith: graph.
Nathan Brady: Abigazal and and this is important because this means when those people when you go to the polls, you know, outofstate donors can't vote. PS can't vote.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Personal fund, they can't the personal funds means nothing. Okay, this is Andrew and and Win buying their own, you know, uh, airtime, whatever. We're seeing now that targeted advertising. So like the the the Texas Senate election is a is a good one, right? I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like 20 million to three million where the GOP outspent the Democratic candidate. Okay. And Mike,
Mike Smith: in in the special election that just happened.
Nathan Brady: hopefully Yeah.
Mike Smith: There's a house seat.
Nathan Brady: The the the state senate.
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Well, for the for the state senate,
Mike Smith: Oh, for the state senate.

00:41:09

Nathan Brady: not for the House seat.
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Which, by the way,
Mike Smith: okay.
Nathan Brady: the House seat um was something that nobody's even talking about because we narrowed the the GOP's uh margin to only four in the House,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: which is huge. You know,
Mike Smith: Oh, yeah.
Nathan Brady: it's the close it's it's the closest.
Mike Smith: 20 218 to 214 now with three vacancies.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Right.
Mike Smith: So,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: it could possibly be 8 218 217 when those vacancies fill, right? Because one of them just was uh by this special election and you're going to have the same
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: things. It's I it's it's amazing to me because I don't know I don't know how independents and the people who have voted Republican in the past get their news or like what better way to reach them, but it's pretty clear that the actions that are happening in the world around us right now, those are impacting people and swaying them to vote differently.

00:42:11

Mike Smith: And so I'm with you that the midterms could could be an amazing uptick of of blue seats. And it would be great. I don't want to call it a blue wave, but it could be that, you
Nathan Brady: I know. I I I again I don't I don't like the phrase because um I mean both sides use it
Mike Smith: know.
Nathan Brady: overuse it now. Red wave, blue wave. Uh red wave sounds kind of gross. Um and does sort of give you an implication of like blood in the streets, which is perfect for what we're seeing right now.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um so, so hey, I'm sorry. I'm just calling it like it is.
Mike Smith: Jesus.
Nathan Brady: I will say cat is doing it right. I think this is the right way. I think reaching out to individual donors is the right way. I think that the way that she runs her campaign, a lot of her campaign events are not there. Well, none of her campaign events are big plate dinners, $10,000 plate dinners with celebrities and whatever nonsense.

00:43:07

Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: What her campaign events are are um Okay, today we're doing a food drive. Okay.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: And it's it's getting into these communities where her voters where her potential
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: voters are and having an impact on that community before she's even elected.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: And I think that is really what is driving both name recognition and
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: these individual donations, you know,
Mike Smith: It's it's it's rubber to the road politics and you kind of love to see it at the at in these
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: grassroots waves where you're just like, I'm trying to get my name out there. Let's help the community while I'm doing that. It seems so simple and
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: obvious.
Nathan Brady: so one of the things and and you know, Mike, I don't think we've shared it on this podcast yet, is that I plan on potentially I can't make any announcements yet, but I So, this isn't an official announcement, okay? But I do plan on if my district is still red and after the redistricting

00:43:59

Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: in California is done and and my if my district is still red and depending on who the blue candidate is, if it if it is, you know, if it if it does go blue,
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: I do plan on running for congressional seat in 2028. I would do nothing different. Cat would be the playbook.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: get out into the community, hold these kinds of events, do food drives, do book swaps, do meetups, do soup kitchens, do do all of these things. Show the community that we're out here with them and for them and not go behind
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: their back and reach out to these high uh you know, large instate individuals, these uh you know, out large outofstate don. First of all, what the hell is large outofstate donations? Like who the hell are you? You clearly aren't somebody that represents the district this person is from,
Mike Smith: Right. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: If you're getting your donations from, you know,
Nathan Brady: know,

00:45:05

Mike Smith: Bill Gates or something like what what why is it how Yeah.
Nathan Brady: ve very very strange, right?
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: Now I will say the interesting thing about this graph is that because it's it's because of what seed it is.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: It's that there's not a lot of uh pack money with any of these individuals that but but they are getting their money from you know
Nathan Brady: Right. Well, remember this.
Mike Smith: big yeah this is a frame.
Nathan Brady: This is just a primary. Okay.
Mike Smith: It's it's not it's not the show yet.
Nathan Brady: I I guarantee you I know who some of the pack money is though because if it's one thing a certain pack in the United States hates, it's progressives. And that would be a pack.
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: and they will spend a ton of money not only in the Democratic primaries to def
Mike Smith: that would be impact.
Nathan Brady: defeat Democratic candidates in the primary to defeat progressive candidates, but then they will give money to Republicans to defeat progressive candidates.

00:46:06

Nathan Brady: Uh which is just insane. And Apac, as as we've pointed out in the past, they own just enough they own like six to 10 senators at any given time on both sides of the aisle um to make sure that everything goes their way. So if you're always like, how is it that we're always one vote short for this? How is it that whenever the Democrats could actually because two Republicans switch the to this side that suddenly one Democrat is the other, you know, is on the other side? It's because AP pack and these super PACs, they they know who they need to buy to make sure that those margins are covered when they need to be covered.
Mike Smith: We
Nathan Brady: So, um that's why we need more people to uh blow those margins away,
Mike Smith: need people. Yeah. We need people who aren't beholdened to those big packed donors.
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: Like we need people who actually represent the people that they are supposed to be
Nathan Brady: Yeah. So,
Mike Smith: doing.

00:47:06

Nathan Brady: when Jeffre and and Schumer are going to whip votes, they're not whipping from their their uh corporate donors. They're they're whipping for the people. That's whipping for the people. I don't think that's a phrase that that'll work uh as a as a campaign slogan. But anyway, let's move on to because we we're already 45 minutes in here and we have
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: we have so much to talk about. Um,
Mike Smith: Can we can we can we do a fun one really quick?
Nathan Brady: but I guess what you is it is it is it about the French
Mike Smith: Can we do a fun one?
Nathan Brady: police?
Mike Smith: No. It's one that I forgot to put in the show notes that I'm just going to spring on you right
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: now.
Nathan Brady: okay. Go ahead. Hit me with it. Hit me with it.
Mike Smith: Nate,
Nathan Brady: Uh oh.
Mike Smith: did Trump s*** his pants?
Nathan Brady: Oh Jesus. So listen, for some reason, for some reason, this didn't get a lot of play.

00:48:05

Nathan Brady: Um, but there is a video that's circulating. Uh, do we want to play it? Do you have a link to it?
Mike Smith: I don't have the video. Or maybe I do.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: I I'm adding it right
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: now.
Nathan Brady: Uh, let me let me see here.
Mike Smith: Oh, yeah. The video's there. I mean, you got to play it. So, this is this is from Snopes. I'll just preface this. I I I I can't I can't Is this real? I can't I don't know. And Snopes, their official statement here is that while the video was authentic and showed no signs of digital manipulation or content generated by artificial intelligence, there was no evidence to support the claim that Trump pooped himself during the meeting. There's no way for Snopes to independently verify the rumor. So, we have to left uh we have left this claim unrated.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: much. I appreciate it.

00:48:56

Nathan Brady's Presentation: Thank you. Please. Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. President, can you respond to the new Fox poll that says people think ISIS is a tactics are too
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: aggressive?
Nathan Brady: I don't know where this this this appears I thought a little bit earlier,
Mike Smith: Her
Nathan Brady: but you can see the the lady in
Nathan Brady's Presentation: Much appreciate it.
Nathan Brady: green.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: Thank you. Please. Thank you. Mr. President,
Mike Smith: face changed
Nathan Brady's Presentation: can you respond to the new Fox poll that
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: immediately.
Nathan Brady: so listen after it happened though,
Nathan Brady's Presentation: says
Nathan Brady: there is an audible sound, okay, that's that appears close to Trump's microphone, okay? Where it sounds like there was a pants event, okay? And when the sound happened, the the lady in green like did like a what? What was that? Okay. And then her face completely changed. Now, if you look at RFK, you see how the side of his face is kind of like falling off and look like it's melting.

00:49:47

Nathan Brady: That's how he always looks. So, we can't use RFK as a And he And I also think RFK likes the smell of other people's farts. Um, that's just from from what I know about him. Um, but so the lady in green, not only does she make that like she makes a face when when the audible noise happens and then she's just doing like the nose rubbing,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: which she doesn't do in any of the rest of the video.
Mike Smith: Well, in her face, like she's smiling, that fake smile.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: She's like,
Nathan Brady: so, uh,
Mike Smith: "What?
Nathan Brady: did did Trump poop his pants during, uh, this executive order? Um, and then did I mean, obviously, uh, I don't know. I think it's Levit um, is rushing people out of the room like, "Okay, that's enough. Get out. Everybody get out." Uh,
Mike Smith: Here's
Nathan Brady: and then allegedly he had his diaper changed. Um, I don't know.
Mike Smith: the thing. I say every week on the podcast,

00:50:45

Nathan Brady: Listen.
Mike Smith: we live in a post-truth society. So, I'm just going to choose to believe he s***
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: his
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: pants.
Nathan Brady: I was going to say are like I thought you were going to say you've also s*** your pants but I mean so we've
Mike Smith: Be pointing fingers here. All
Nathan Brady: listen uh is
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: this I listen a lot of presidents I if you take a look at some of these presidents we've had I think it's pretty clear some of these presidents have s*** their pants. Um so that shouldn't be an indictment. Okay. Incontinence it's it's an issue. A lot of Americans have this issue. It's
Mike Smith: the elderly face it and it's and and and the young alike, but you know, maybe we shouldn't have, you know, 80 year olds running the country anymore.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: A little younger, maybe. I don't know. That's my Anyway, that was the fun one. I just I thought, you know,

00:51:36

Nathan Brady: well,
Mike Smith: maybe we maybe Leave a Leave a comment.
Nathan Brady: I you know what?
Mike Smith: Leave a comment.
Nathan Brady: I want to have a
Mike Smith: Let us know if you think he s*** his pants.
Nathan Brady: Okay. All right. I'm gonna Can Can I keep it on the fun theme, though?
Mike Smith: Go on the fun thing.
Nathan Brady: I wanna I want to continue on the fun theme. Just a little bit before we started today's episode and we were putting the show notes together, we got a a fun little piece of information that the French police have raided uh the ex offices um in France. And so uh there there are French prosecutors. Um, the raid was part of a criminal investigation led by the Paris prosecutor's cyber crime unit that alleges that ex misusing their algorithm, including claims of bias or manipulative recommendation systems and unlawful data extraction. So, I will tell you if you were still on X shortly after Elon took over, I only followed Democrats. I only followed sports.

00:52:37

Nathan Brady: I followed chess. I follow and then suddenly it was Tim P,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Charlie Kirk, you know, uh, obviously Elon a billion times,
Mike Smith: Elon all the time.
Nathan Brady: you know, all the
Mike Smith: I I'm I had blocked Elon and I would still occasionally see his posts.
Nathan Brady: time.
Mike Smith: I'm like, "This thing is out of
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: control.
Nathan Brady: so another another important thing is the investigation is also targeting illegal content linked to Grock. Um, and so first of all, we know that Musk has tried to jam in into their system prompts into Grock's system prompts such that if you typed anything, suddenly we were hearing about white genocide in Africa. When you're like, what's today's weather in Boston? You know, it was like, well, forget about the weather. Have you heard? You're like, what?
Mike Smith: Yeah, we've covered we've covered Grock on the on the pod
Nathan Brady: Um but we so but but one of
Mike Smith: before.
Nathan Brady: the important things that this investigation is covering is that the uh Grock is doing this AI generated sexually explicit deep fakes especially of women and in some reports minors.

00:53:49

Nathan Brady: So dissemination of child sexual abuse material, failures in child protection, posts involving Holocaust denial which is a criminal offense in France by the way. So these are these are are huge uh issues. Um so Elon Musk has formally been uh summoned to appear in Paris for questioning in April alongside former ex-CEO Linda Yakarino. Um that's for voluntary interviews, but I guarantee you the f the French don't mess around with this s***. And the EU in general doesn't mess around with data. Uh they're very strict on data and privacy protections. They're very strict on um child sexual abuse policies, especially as it pertains to the internet. Um there will be major fines that come out of this whether or not Elon goes.
Mike Smith: Yes.
Nathan Brady: Uh but uh I think I think it's clear that there's going to be huge fines coming for X, who already operates in the red as far as I understand because they can't get enough advertising, um etc. Um Elon Musk,
Mike Smith: And it's I was going to say it's it's really interesting from a legal perspective.

00:54:56

Nathan Brady: go ahead.
Mike Smith: Um I follow a lot of of like legal things and one of the things that I find interesting, you know, we're in tech. We build, you know, web apps and things for other companies and stuff. Section 230 protects a platform like X from content that its users produce and display on that website. So that for instance, if you're a user on X and you post CS SAM on X, X can't be sued or found criminally liable as as providing that that's on the user and there are the takeown requests and like there's processes in place, but that's an American law that applies to American or companies operating in America and you do not get those same sorts of uh immunities in other countries. countries such as France or Germany or any of these things. So if you are and and the second part of that is the users aren't generating this. It's Grock. It's actually the the Xplatform itself generating these illegal in other countries content. And so like you're not going to get fined,

00:56:11

Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: man. They're gonna they're people are going to get arrested if you're not careful.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: and they'd be well within their rights to say like,
Nathan Brady: And the
Mike Smith: "Okay, X cannot be distributed in the EU then." Like, they could just outright ban it because it's not following their
Nathan Brady: Right. Um,
Mike Smith: laws.
Nathan Brady: and you know, we already know X is going the way of Truth Social. I mean, it's it's a dumpster fire over there. You know, we we've all closed our accounts.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: We encourage other people to. Unfortunately, I know Aaron Rupar, people like that, you know, a lot of their income comes from that. at some point,
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: you know, at some point, well, aren't you just saying, um, if a congressman goes to Congress and says, "Well, a lot of my income is coming from a super PAC." Where do you draw the line? You know, I'm sorry, but if you're still supporting this site and you're supporting this this this man, um, and you're you're driving users to your to your ex account, I I don't know what to say.

00:57:09

Nathan Brady: You know,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I I I understand small authors, whatever, but are you doing everything you can to drive people away from X and get them onto either another platform, find you in another way, whatever?
Mike Smith: I think I in the case of Aaron Rupar, he definitely is. He's on Blue Ski.
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: He's posting on threads and Facebook. You know, a lot of those guys will use like uh what are they called? Well, the technology that lets you like post once and it gets deployed to all of the platforms.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Mike Smith: you know what I'm saying?
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah.
Mike Smith: Um,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: so a lot of those small-time guys are doing that and there is a platform on X that they need to uh work for because they got to get those dollars. So I hear you on the one hand like you should be avoiding X at all possible.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: But there will be people who will be on X just because like you said,

00:57:51

Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: they like they like sports, they like, you know, F1 racing or whatever and they have somehow avoided politics and so they're just
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: like, "Well, this is a good place to learn about cars or whatever." And Aaron Rupar can reach them there. I don't I don't
Nathan Brady: Um, listen,
Mike Smith: know.
Nathan Brady: we had so much more stuff that we needed to talk about today, but we we like to we like to keep it at an hour for these. Um, we'll have to come back maybe maybe do a second show this week or do another, you know, make sure we're back at the beginning of next week where all of our stories will be irrelevant anyway and we'll have a a whole bunch of new stuff that we have to talk about. Um, one of the things we didn't cover today, um, was what's going on in Minnesota. And I think that's just a a a good place to kind of end today's episode is obviously if you're listening to this show, a weekly progressive podcast.

00:58:47

Nathan Brady: Mike and I obviously stand with the people of Minnesota. I saw a post earlier that I don't know if it is true or not. I could look it up right now. I don't I don't know if uh the people Minneapolis and the people of Minneapolis have been
Mike Smith: Oh.
Nathan Brady: nominated for the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize. Um which is the first time uh something like that has ever happened. I don't even know how that would work. Um I think that's a slap in the face to Donald Trump, which would be incredible. Um, we both Mike and I believe that Alex Petty and Renee Nicole Good were murdered by federal agents. um all the evidence that we see um truly disturbing and we believe the all of the agents involved should be uh investigated and prosecuted and all of the uh um leaders of DHS, ICE, etc. should should be answering uh to a House committee. they should also be investigated and if liable should be charged as well. And hopefully civil suits come out of this.

01:00:02

Nathan Brady: Hopefully these people are are uh held accountable in some way for their actions.
Mike Smith: Yeah. No,
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: I mean obviously Renee Good and um I'm like Alex Prey,
Nathan Brady: Alex Petty
Mike Smith: you know, were both in in my estimation murdered in the streets. Um, and so I I I don't see how we can have a society if we aren't willing to hold the murderers accountable because laws either matter or they don't. They either matter for everyone or they don't matter at
Nathan Brady: And and I and I'm tired of the gaslighting.
Mike Smith: all.
Nathan Brady: I mean, we saw DHS come out right away and say, you know, this person was a domestic terrorist, this person was this, without any investigation, without allowing um you know, uh state and local police to come in and secure the crime scenes. Um, pretty pretty disturbing stuff coming out of this administration.
Mike Smith: And it's all being recorded and it's all being put online.
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: And I think we've talked about it. I think we we definitely talked about Renee Good.

01:01:10

Mike Smith: I don't know if we talked about Alex Freddy on the pod yet, but we have lots of video angles, lots of different recordings and they all corroborate the same story and you could see it with your own eyes. I don't advocate watching these videos. They're horrific.
Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: But they I have because I can't help myself and I can see with
Nathan Brady: at this point you probably have.
Mike Smith: my eyes that this man was basically assassinated in the street and posing
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: no threat and the the right immediately went out and said he had a gun on him and he was going to be a terrorist and all this other stuff that's clearly visibly not true.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: So, I think you said it.
Nathan Brady: Uh you
Mike Smith: We we we stand with the people of Minnesota.
Nathan Brady: said
Mike Smith: We stand with all Americans against this sort of authoritarianism and tyranny.
Nathan Brady: um I do not think that ICE should exist especially in its current uh configuration. I don't think that DHS needed to exist.

01:02:15

Nathan Brady: Um I think that we should go back to pre 911 INS type thing.
Mike Smith: All
Nathan Brady: But even then, and I I and sorry for the Obama lovers out there, Obama had a lot to do with massive detention centers, with with family separation. We can't ignore this fact. If we want things to change in the United States, we can't just say, "Yay, we have a new democratic president." Uh, and then things magically get better, we have to fight against this these these mass detention centers.
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: we have to fight against these forprofit uh prisons as well and that that's the only way things are going to change. So don't just think that voting for somebody with a D and that D winning is going to change because the reason why we are here where we are right now is because we voted for Biden and we said thank God and what and what happened not four
Mike Smith: Not
Nathan Brady: years okay Biden didn't do enough the Biden administration whether they could or
Mike Smith: enough.
Nathan Brady: not I don't know okay I wasn't I I I truly don't know what you could do to stop what happened but certainly Certainly, we could have done a lot more and we need to next

01:03:28

Mike Smith: And okay, we're and we're going super long now,
Nathan Brady: time.
Mike Smith: but I have to say as well, like we were saying earlier, the current uh in incumbent Democrats who are continuing even today funding the government and giving ICE more money, Democrats voting for this is part of the problem.
Nathan Brady: guys.
Mike Smith: We need to get as many of these carpet baggers,
Nathan Brady: f***.
Mike Smith: for lack of a better word, out. And we need real Democrats in who will stop and actually change what's happening.
Nathan Brady: Body cams are not going to stop ICE from doing we I mean
Mike Smith: Like I said, it's just more camera angles.
Nathan Brady: uh right we have them Renee
Mike Smith: We have them already. Everybody in their mom has has a has a camera or two on their person.
Nathan Brady: Nicole Goods Renee Nicole Goods killer had a body cam and a cell phone. We got to see all of that video.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Has that has that changed anything? No. I don't want better trained faceless murderers in the street.

01:04:25

Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: I don't want more Yeah.
Mike Smith: you you can't you you can't fix that.
Nathan Brady: It just you can't.
Mike Smith: You can't reform
Nathan Brady: So guys, definitely keep recording yourselves,
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: keep out there, keep fighting, keep put pulling your cameras out. It is our it is our right. It is our constitutional right to do so. We're going to continue to do so. Um and and we need to press every single person in Congress to hold these people accountable. We do have the names now of the of the of the two agents that murdered Alex Petty. Um Jesus OOA was one of the names and it might strike people as like I'm sorry, can you what's that name again? You know,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: and and it's not something that I would say because I'm a white male, but I see a lot of a lot of uh Spanish-sp speakaking Americans going, "That's a race traitor. That that that is a traitor to his people." And you know,

01:05:24

Nathan Brady: it's it's hard for me to to argue with that. I mean, that's somebody who clearly wouldn't be here unless his parents immigrated here or his grandparents or whoever, you know, and um you're you're you're murdering you're going after people who aren't even violent violent criminals, you know. Um which was ISIS stated goal to begin with where we're ripping people out of the streets. Um the the the the video that always strikes me is it's really more audio that always like I get choked up when I hear it.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I'll be scrolling through Instagram and it's that I believe it was in Minneapolis where you hear a bunch of whistles blowing and it's like it's like snow on the ground and and you hear uh they're here. They're here. Stay inside. Lock your doors.
Mike Smith: Right,
Nathan Brady: Dude, this is America. What?
Mike Smith: Nate. I hate to do this to you.
Nathan Brady: Okay. Okay.
Mike Smith: Breaking news.
Nathan Brady: Oh boy. Okay,
Mike Smith: Rep.

01:06:29

Nathan Brady: guys.
Mike Smith: Ted,
Nathan Brady: cuz we're going long today.
Mike Smith: we're going long today. Rep. Ted Lou just held a presser saying that the Epstein files have
Nathan Brady: Okay. Okay.
Mike Smith: allegations of Trump raping and threatening to kill children.
Nathan Brady: Oh boy. Okay.
Mike Smith: Tedloo went on he's at a podium and he and he and he said this lectern.
Nathan Brady: Lect turn. Lect turn.
Mike Smith: Thank you.
Nathan Brady: We don't want to get Okay.
Mike Smith: Yeah. So,
Nathan Brady: All right.
Mike Smith: we have to dig into it.
Nathan Brady: Let me see.
Mike Smith: It's live. But I think you know that's that's crazy. The news cycles just won't stop,
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: guys.
Nathan Brady: In February 3rd, 2026, Ted Lieu said Republicans are focusing on Clintons to distract the fact that Donald Trump is in thousands of files. He further asserted the files contain allegations of Trump raping children and threatening to kill children and criticized law enforcement officials for not investigating Trump and others named.

01:07:21

Nathan Brady: Um, if there's if there's ever been a time to impeach and remove a man from the highest office in the land, Jesus Christ, it's now. Like,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: it's it's right now.
Mike Smith: Well, and I gotta say I again,
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: we're going long and I but I have to polit politic this. Rep. Tedloo is talking about one of the most ligious men in the United States history.
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: He sues everybody for everything,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: for anything.
Nathan Brady: He literally just said he was going to sue Trevor Noah for a joke that he made at the Grammys on Sunday,
Mike Smith: So he's but but Reploo is stating stating this knowing full well that
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: if he doesn't have evidence to back up that claim, he's committing slander and he's doing it from an elected official's position. So what does he have that we don't know about?
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: Like what documents what we doing here,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: Ted? Are you going to start leaking some stuff?

01:08:20

Mike Smith: Because we got to know some stuff.
Nathan Brady: Um, okay. Let's keep an eye on this. I mean, we will certainly all day long.
Mike Smith: We certainly
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: will.
Nathan Brady: let me see here. Okay. Uh, we got this we got this pinned. Um,
Mike Smith: All right,
Nathan Brady: okay. I think we have to wrap it here.
Mike Smith: we have to wrap
Nathan Brady: We could I mean, if we we stay long enough and we're already into the next news cycle,
Mike Smith: here,
Nathan Brady: so we'll have five new stories that we have to talk about.
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: Um, and it certainly again speaks to we're we're probably going to have to be doing live shows every once in a while. Um, so um and and we we'll get together and we'll figure out when to do that.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: But for now um that's that's all we can do today. If you are interested in supporting us, we don't we're not asking for any money.

01:09:08

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Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: It's the best way to get these stories uh and our voices out to other people. Um and hopefully to change the hearts and minds and not just of progressives, but um we, you know, we need to just as much as all of this terrible news is in our face every day, we got to get back out there and say what we need to do to hold these people accountable. Um and hopefully Ted Lou and Rep. Garcia, etc. are going to go fight that fight for us. Um, until, you know, maybe we have to do it ourselves. So, uh, until next week, I'm Nate Brady.
Mike Smith: I'm Mike
Nathan Brady: See you next time.
Mike Smith: Smith.