Tonight on Smackdown: Mamdani v ICE, Novak v Halligan

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Mike Smith: Okay then.
Nathan Brady: All right. Ready? All right. Here we go.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Wait till you put that down. All right. I We could just never start correctly. Ah, hey everyone and welcome to another episode of the Blue Sedition Podcast. I'm Nate Brady alongside my co-host.
Mike Smith: I am Mike Smith. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: It's good to have
Nathan Brady: this is episode episode 55,
Mike Smith: you.
Nathan Brady: Mike of the Blue Sedition podcast. We started this podcast on September 11th. Um, that date means something. I don't remember. I believe we've forgotten um the the folks since since we elected Zoron
Mike Smith: Yeah, sounds
Nathan Brady: Mdani,
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: not we I wish I wish I could have cast a vote for him. Uh but we were told by many weirdos uh that we that meant that we forgot about 911.
Mike Smith: Is that what happened?
Nathan Brady: Um I think so.

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Mike Smith: Did we forget about 911?
Nathan Brady: Well, I think because like 11-year-old Zoron mom Donnie did 911
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um and then we forgot that he did 911 and then and survive.
Mike Smith: And survived somehow.
Nathan Brady: Well, he Well, maybe he was the mastermind.
Mike Smith: He was orchestrating it.
Nathan Brady: I don't know.
Mike Smith: Yeah. And he set up Bin Laden at his pathy.
Nathan Brady: I don't know.
Mike Smith: That's pretty
Nathan Brady: Doesn't say a lot for the intelligence community that we couldn't stop uh 11-year-old Zoran Mamani
Mike Smith: good.
Nathan Brady: from uh Anyway, you know what? I digress. Let's start with Zoran Mdani. You know what? Actually, this is a this is a good transition. Um I don't know if you've seen he made the rounds on u was it the view? I think he was on the view this morning. Um and he was talking about ICE and he was talking about ICE in a way that I wish all of our representatives
Mike Smith: Okay.

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Nathan Brady: um and all of the the candidates for 2026 would talk about ICE. Um, so I'm going to play that for you now.
Mike Smith: That'd be pretty nice.
Nathan Brady: Okay. So, let's let's let's listen in.
Mike Smith: Excited.
Nathan Brady: Let's listen in.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: want to know where you come down on abolishing ICE and if you believe that ICE has any legitimate law enforcement role. You know, I am in support of abolishing ICE. And I'll tell you why. Because what we've what we
Nathan Brady: Karen, hear him.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: see is an entity that has no interest in fulfilling its stated reason to exist.
Nathan Brady: Claps.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: We're seeing a government agency that is supposed to be enforcing some kind of immigration law, but instead what it's doing is terrorizing people no matter their immigration status, no matter the facts of the law, no matter the facts of the case. And I'm tired of waking up every day and seeing a new image of someone being dragged out of home, dragged out of their life.

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Nathan Brady's Presentation: What we need to see is humanity. And there is a way to to care about immigration in this city and in this country with a sense of humanity. What we're seeing from ICE is not it. And we have not seen that from them in a long, long time.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, I mean this is to me this is such an easy win. I think we see like the the Schumers and the Jeffre and the other Dem politicians
Mike Smith: Yes.
Nathan Brady: who are looking over their shoulders at their donors and people funding their campaigns etc and going oh I you know I have to find a way to skirt around this issue and I think Mandani found a way to talk about abolishing ICE be because they are not living out their reason for their existence right um so it's
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: not like defund the police, which of course everyone freaks out about. It's like, well, who could call 911?
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Like, we nobody could have come to the door, you know?

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Nathan Brady: It's it's not that this ICE isn't that old, right? like like you know and their state admission actually
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I I probably couldn't even find their state admission if I I don't even want to know what it is but you know that
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Donald Trump and and all of his supporters are saying listen we we just wanted to go after the violent criminals right and so the KO Institute just put out numbers uh maybe it was earlier today or a couple days ago that over 75% of the people currently being held in detention um in immigration facilities in the United States have no criminal record. These are not violent criminals.
Mike Smith: Correct.
Nathan Brady: These aren't people that were disrupt disrupting the lives of American citizens. And obviously, as we know, because we've talked about the economics of this already in the past. These are people that were likely contributing to um society in the United States in a meaningful way. making your groceries cheaper, you know, um uh paying towards uh social safety nets that they actually can't use, things like that.

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Nathan Brady: So, they were these people are uh a net positive. And we're seeing ICE now. Um I mean, we just saw them kick in the door of a naturalized American citizen in Minnesota drag him out in his underwear in, you know, 10 degree weather. Um, no warrant that if this if this is what ICE is, then yeah, how can you of course abolish ICE? This shouldn't be a hard thing for them to
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: say,
Mike Smith: I Oh, not for Dems. That's the easiest thing for them to say. It's a simple win amongst your voter base and even independents.
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: Um I think we put it on blue sky a week ago, maybe. Uh there was some polling done amongst Democrats, independents, and Republicans, and it shows it's deeply unpopular what ICE is doing right now. You never have to worry about, you know, you're always going to get your blue bays. Mundan is always going to have his blue bays voting for him. He has to worry about the independents who come out to vote.

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Mike Smith: And the the polling shows this is good messaging even for independents. So, you're never going to win the Republicans anyway, but this is good messaging for you. And I agree. You should, everybody should be doing it. I should be hearing Jeff screaming it. We should be hearing Schumer screaming it. And it's a simple way to to do politics and just get visibility on
Nathan Brady: So, you you you brought up some of the polls.
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: This is a Yuggov poll. Um CBS is showing here from January 14th to 16th,
Mike Smith: Mhm.
Nathan Brady: 2026. In November, um already more than half of people pulled said that ICE was being too tough. Um and that number is only increasing now.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Um pe people who thought that they, you know, that they were doing things just about right, that number is also decreasing. about 24% of Americans pled think that ICE is doing the right thing. Um, and you can imagine those are just your staunch hardcore Republican supporters that are the ones putting laughing emojis on, you know,

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Mike Smith: But even still,
Nathan Brady: like uh videos of
Mike Smith: they're they're swaying 3% in the wrong direction. like they're, you know,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: that and and it's really easy to to like to to campaign on it if you had to because it's it's a battle of optics, right? So, your Fox News and whatever aren't showing the videos the way that that you know that they're being recorded, but social media, I mean, the uh the murder of Renee Good was shown to everybody, every American and most of the world via social media from 15 different angles. And people were allowed to make up their own minds as to what actually happened. It doesn't matter that Fox News is out there saying he was rammed by the car and he's got internal bleeding and he you watch the video and even as you know some Trumpist MAGA guy if you watch the video you go he didn't get hit by that car the f*** are you talking about? So, it's just a losing optics battle. And at the end of the day, ICE in the best case scenario is basically just bullying people who aren't doing any they're not committing crimes.

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Mike Smith: They're not, you know, they're, like you said, they're they're contributing to the country in a positive way. And in the worst case scenario, they're literally murdering people on camera. So,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: I don't think it's an optics battle they can win.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. And you know it there is this there's this weird um idea that certain voters believe that an immigrant in the United States who commits a violent crime was not already being arrested. Like you like like any other American citizen, if you commit a violent crime, you're you're you're going to be arrested.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: It's not like, oh, well, they're also an immigrant, so we're just going to leave this alone. What What are we talking about?
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: This
Mike Smith: It's it's really it's really strange because you'll hear that argument out of the right a lot because it's it's easy to
Nathan Brady: doesn't
Mike Smith: point I forget who it was. There was like a case and we talked about it in a previous podcast where an illegal immigrant murdered a a girl, I don't remember who, uh, an American girl in America and the right just was like, "Oh my god, look at this." And I'm like,

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Mike Smith: "Americans kill Americans all the damn time. Like, should we be deporting all Americans for the same reason? They're violent.
Nathan Brady: Exactly. So,
Mike Smith: What are you doing?
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: Look at all these hundreds of thousands,
Nathan Brady: let's
Mike Smith: maybe millions of of immigrant people who are not committing crimes."
Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: like
Nathan Brady: it's such a great point and it's a logical fallacy that the right uses all the time. It's this it's their straw man.
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: It's a so listen or their even generalization tactics, right? is data shows study after study shows first and second generation
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: immigrants commit fewer crimes than American citizens. So the hard reality is per capita if you remove immigrants first and second generation imig immigrants from your population crime is going to go up per capita.
Mike Smith: go up.
Nathan Brady: Okay?
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: It's just it's just how numbers it's just how numbers work.
Mike Smith: Also, it it just doesn't make any logical sense, right?

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Mike Smith: Because most of the im the the people who are here illegally are trying to escape from another country. They're not trying to infiltrate America like Trump would have you believe.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: They're trying to escape another country. And why would they come here? Well, they want to set down roots. They want to, you know, have a family and a working job.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: And they want to have a good life for them and their kids and their kids' kids. And they're not going to be doing crime because they're they're trying to escape a country where crime is
Nathan Brady: right? Because America seemed like such a safe place and the American dream felt like a thing.
Mike Smith: rampant.
Nathan Brady: Sadly, a lot of them are coming here and realizing, ah, this this wasn't the the place of dreams it was propped up to be. But I just want to go back and touch on on the point you just made the way that they're coming in. These people are are crossing rivers.

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Nathan Brady: They're they're crossing,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: you know, these uh really treacherous landscapes to get into the United States. And people are acting like they're bringing bags of fentinel and all, you know,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: the the reality is the the fentinel that's coming over the border is coming through legal routes. It's coming back and forth from people that are allowed to enter and leave the country. It's not coming from the mother and her two children who are trying to escape,
Mike Smith: Right. People with passports, right?
Nathan Brady: you know.
Mike Smith: Who have the clothes on the backs and that's
Nathan Brady: Right. Yeah. I mean, it's it's so it's so embarrassing and and thankfully,
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: I think a lot more people are seeing through these uh let's face it, these are these are Nazi talking points.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: It's really it's really sad.
Mike Smith: Propaganda campaigns used by the Nazis literally.
Nathan Brady: Literally, it's the immigrants are stealing your jobs. The immigrants are making everything more expensive for you.

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Nathan Brady: And of course, you have national news organizations now like Fox News, but not just Fox News. Now we have uh uh you know networks that maybe you could say were
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: left-leaning for a long time being run by people like Barry Weiss who are pulling who
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: are pulling uh uh stories that the American people need to see to to put more favor uh or or be in the in the court of of the president so they don't get sued or whatever. And they're sharing this what what you what what is Nazi propaganda? uh and it's just incredible. But I am so happy to see that more and more people are pushing back on this and to see even with the national media um kind of shoving these lies down your throat, we just showed those poll numbers for ICE um and and they're going in the wrong direction for the Trump administration. So I think that's huge.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: And so to me, wh why Go ahead. Go ahead.

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Mike Smith: No, you had something to say. You
Nathan Brady: Well, and to me,
Mike Smith: s
Nathan Brady: Mike, help me understand this. Pretend for a moment you're a Dem strategist and you get paid to make sure
Mike Smith: Yep.
Nathan Brady: that Democrats win elections and you just saw uh Zoran Mandani who is who is, you know, doing his media tour right now talking about abolishing ICE. Um, and you saw him um destroy uh Cuomo in both the primary and then the general as Cuomo ran for as an independent. um on on things that are favorable for the American people or by the American people. Um what would you be telling people who are running for office right now? We're running for the midterms.
Mike Smith: Okay, who am I telling? First and foremost, if I'm a strategist, I'm probably not talking to the types of people that would actually listen to this type of thing. If I'm talking to the Clintons and the,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: you know, whoever,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: like the the the established Yes.

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Nathan Brady: Right. The Schumers and the Pelosis and the Yeah.
Mike Smith: If I'm talking to those people,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: they don't care that the messaging the Mandani uses and and building up public trust and trying to build a coalition around that is what wins elections because they don't want to win that election. They want to win the election where they keep making money for them and their donors, but they don't really care how they did it. Um, I think moving forward, and I think we're just going to start seeing more and more of this as people get fed up with those types of of uh, you know, candidates. We're going to see more Graham Platiners. We're going to see more cat, and I'm sorry, I'm not going to pronounce her last name because I'm terrible at it.
Nathan Brady: Abazali learn her
Mike Smith: We're going to see more of these people.
Nathan Brady: name.
Mike Smith: I'm gonna learn her name. Don't you worry. When I go campaigning for her, I will learn her name. Uh, but we're gonna see more of these just grassroot movements of like this is my area and and it's terrible and I want to fix it and the Democrats and the Republicans aren't looking to fix it.

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Mike Smith: Here's what I propose and just going the Mumani route of these are local issues that we can address. Let's address them. And maybe you take it to a national stage.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: That's that's the messaging I would go for.
Nathan Brady: you know, I I think we we've been this has been kind of a theme in on the podcast the last few days, but I'm seeing it more and more rise up from even people who I thought were pretty hardcore liberals is that it looks like incrementalism is dead. Okay. The idea that, oh,
Mike Smith: Thank
Nathan Brady: we got to got to say the right things and we got to take it one step at a time and we get only these these little wins and these strongly worded letters.
Mike Smith: God.
Nathan Brady: no moss like this. This nobody wants that anymore. Even people who in my feed um used to be uh you know the the the the Hillary Clinton supporters, the Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer people, which hard to believe those people exist, but they do.

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Nathan Brady: Um those vote blue no matter who people are going, wait a minute, um the politics of the past is what got us here today. And there is there certainly is no way that we if we win in 2026
Mike Smith: Okay,
Nathan Brady: and 2028 that we can take only in incremental steps.
Mike Smith: here if I'm I'm going to go back and I'm going to answer your question for real now.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: If I'm a strategist and I'm working with these types of candidates that that were the non-grass roots strate uh candidates, they're going to be doubling down on that. They're going to say, "We can't go too far to the left because we're going to lose the middle. We're going to lose all these independents." and they're gonna run on a campaign of fear in the same way that I think um Cuomo ran on against Mundan where he was like we can't
Nathan Brady: So nothing has changed. Yeah.
Mike Smith: lean too far left.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: It's going to get you're gonna get crazy. We're gonna get crushed.

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Mike Smith: And then of course, you know, he didn't he crushed
Nathan Brady: Yeah. I mean embarrassingly even. Um, so while we're still on the subject of ice,
Mike Smith: embarrassingly.
Nathan Brady: before we switch uh topics, I have to play this. Unfortunately,
Mike Smith: You
Nathan Brady: I don't think we've ever played maybe in 55 episodes. I'm not sure. We've had to have played one or two clips of um the the pedophile president.
Mike Smith: do.
Nathan Brady: So, I'm going to play a clip here of Donald Trump talking about Renee Good, um the person who was murdered by uh an ICE agent uh in Minneapolis last week. I'm going play a a clip here of what he said about his parents uh about her parents.
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: So, uh here here it is.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: The reason is because these are uh insurrectionists that are doing this work and you know they're going to make mistakes sometimes. ISIS is going to be too rough with somebody or you know they're dealing with rough people.

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Nathan Brady's Presentation: Uh they're going to make a mistake sometimes. It can happen who feel terribly. I felt horribly when I was told that the young woman who was uh had the tragedy, it's a tragedy. It's a horrible thing. Everybody would say Ice would say the same thing. But uh when I learned her her parents and her father in particular is like was I hope he still is, but I don't know was a tremendous Trump fan. He was all for Trump. Loved Trump. And uh you know it's terrible. I was told that by a lot of people. They said, "Oh, he he loves you. He He was a I hope I hope he still feels that way. I don't know.
Nathan Brady: So, so okay.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: It's hard.
Nathan Brady: So, the reason why I wanted to play this is because there's a couple of things to break down here. First of all, this man is psychotic. Okay, he he Oh,

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Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I only felt horrible for the Renee Good situation once I found out that her father was a huge Trump guy. Okay, so that right there is just insane.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: But it's really telling what he said in the beginning, even for even for him, is that he said ISIS is going to go out there and they're going to make mistakes. I'm going to ignore the fact that he said because they're dealing with really rough people because of course Renee Nicole Good was not a really tough person. Okay. Um this is that that is a thing that could have been avoided. But he said they're going to make mistakes. Okay. So is are we admitting here that what happened with Renee Nicole Good was a mistake? and and and if if if so,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: does that mean that there needs to be an investigation? Now, I don't think there were any follow-ups to that um in that way because everybody was invited into that
Mike Smith: No.

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Nathan Brady: room now is only there because they're asking the right questions um and and all the softball
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: stuff. But, but that's that whole interaction to me. I I it's it's crazy at this point to say, you know, that that's crazy. It's psychotic. It's whatever cuz this is who he's always been. It's not like he's getting any worse,
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: you know? Um this is just kind of well his
Mike Smith: I mean he is getting worse. His ramblings are getting less
Nathan Brady: ramblings are getting less coherent.
Mike Smith: coherent.
Nathan Brady: And you can even see I think you and I were both like sitting here like come on can we maybe this should be on 3x speed. Can you and he never used to be like that. If you compare that to a speech in 2016, he was just blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah,
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: you know,
Mike Smith: Well, he was on a lot of uppers at the time

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Nathan Brady: and now he's like, "Yeah, and now he's just And then when I heard," and then there's,
Mike Smith: allegedly.
Nathan Brady: you know, way too much way too big of a boss there. Um, so,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: so anyway, yeah, I wanted to play that just to say, "Holy s***, this guy's this guy's a monster. This guy is such a monster." Um, zero empathy, no humanity. Um, only Well, oh, now once I learned that, you know, her her parents were Trump guys.
Mike Smith: Once this was about me, then I got
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Oh, no. I hope he's still I hope Listen,
Mike Smith: interested.
Nathan Brady: I killed your daughter, but I hope we're Can we still Can we still be friends?
Mike Smith: You're still going to vote for me and
Nathan Brady: Are you gonna in 2028 when I run for the fourth time, are you gonna vote for me? Um, uh, just just insane. So, Mike, what what else we got to talk about today?
Mike Smith: God, what else have we got to talk about today?

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Nathan Brady: Uh, I guess I guess there's a there's a Are we going to talk about the elephant in the
Mike Smith: This There's an elephant in the room.
Nathan Brady: room?
Mike Smith: I think we need to talk about the elephant in the room.
Nathan Brady: Are we gonna Can we Can we talk about Here's what I want to talk about before we like
Mike Smith: Here's what we're going to talk about.
Nathan Brady: before we get really deep into this Trump Greenland thing. I just want to talk about the fact that one day, and Trump admitted it himself. He said this in one of his ramblings. One day Trump looked at a map and because of the Mercer projection and the fact that Greenland looks way bigger on a map than it actually is, he looked at it and he said, "Oh my god, look at that big land mass. Uh shouldn't we shouldn't we have that?" And that's where this all started
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: from, okay? Because of Trump's both misunderstanding of maps and, you know, foreign policy and and and whatever, he was just like, "We should get we look at that. Look at that big piece of land.

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Mike Smith: Look at that
Nathan Brady: We should do that." Um,
Mike Smith: guy.
Nathan Brady: so, okay, this is things things are getting insane. it in in 20, you know, in in his first term, he brought this up and we all kind of laughed at him. I think even the um uh prime minister of Denmark had written a had written a response in the effect of actually no you know uh uh Greenland is not for sale but we'd be willing to buy the United States um so that they can
Mike Smith: Interesting.
Nathan Brady: have you know universal health care and a better education if that's something you guys are uh are you down for. And we heard we heard that everything in the United States is for sale. So, we would like to to purchase you instead. Um, so kind of funny, kind of a big joke,
Mike Smith: They're escalating.
Nathan Brady: but now things are getting a little scary. They're they're getting a little scary. Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: so Trump was asked today, probably in the same uh press conference, I believe, where he was saying that he would uh he was very sad about the Renee Nicole Good situation once he heard that her father was a Trump supporter.

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Nathan Brady: I think in that same um press conference he was asked by a reporter, you know, um listen, it doesn't look like Denmark is is willing to uh make a deal with you here. What's the how far are you willing to go? You know, and he said, "Well, you'll find out." And you know, a lot of people would say, "Well,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: that's just a bluff, right? like that that's that's just Trump bluffing. But I don't think it's a bluff because in in in this term especially, he's not being held accountable at all for for any of the things that he's doing and saying.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Um so like look at Venezuela. I mean literally no nothing no accountability,
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: no reaction,
Mike Smith: dear Congress.
Nathan Brady: nothing.
Mike Smith: Uh,
Nathan Brady: Congress took a break. They were like, "You know what?
Mike Smith: yeah,
Nathan Brady: This isn't I don't I don't get paid for
Mike Smith: they're out. It makes no sense. Like, the legal standing on that that they're that they're leaning on is that we went into Venezuela to perform an act of

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Nathan Brady: this.
Mike Smith: policing and not an act of war. And I'm like, you invaded another country. What you call it kind of doesn't
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: matter.
Nathan Brady: And it's like either way, I mean, I I heard people tell me like, "Oh, the DEA and whatever." I'm like, "The DEA and our federal agencies have no jurisdiction in another country. So, what are you even talking about?
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: This doesn't make any What are you What are you saying right now? Um, so things are escalating with Denmark to the point where Trump is now talking about uh more taxes on the American people in the form of tariffs um to some of NATO's top uh to some of our top allies uh in the European Union Union if I don't know Denmark doesn't just hand over Greenland. Um, what what are your thoughts
Mike Smith: It's it's bizarre and it's it's very I mean,
Nathan Brady: here?
Mike Smith: you know, it's to the point where Trump's talking about or alluding to, you know, pulling the United States out of NATO and I'm like, that seems like a bad idea.

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Mike Smith: You know, disrupting the global stability of of of a peace alliance and and like anti-agression alliance. And you have members of NATO now like literally deploying troops to Greenland in the idea of we need to protect against an American invasion.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. I mean, Denmark just recently deployed another 200.
Mike Smith: And it doesn't sound crazy because you're like of course you might just do it.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Old coup might just do
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: I mean, so uh to your point, yeah, Denmark just uh has deployed another 200 additional troops um and senior army leadership to Greenland this week, um be because they they're they're really worried about this escalating standoff with the United States. um the the Denmark um prime minister uh and I think
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: uh the eight other European leaders in a joint statement um has said Europe won't be blackmailed by Trump's tariff threats.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: U I mean I I I just I I I don't know.
Mike Smith: It seems really strange,

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Nathan Brady: I I I don't know what else to say here.
Mike Smith: too, because I don't think I don't see a way to get the American public on board with with trying to annex Greenland because there's no reason. You know what I mean? Like when we invaded other countries, there was always a reason that was at least somewhat believable at face value. So when we went obviously the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, you know, it was a war on terror. We had to end, you know, weapons of mass destru. But it was believable by and it was consumable by the American public because you don't know and there are brown people and they might have nukes and they might have chemical weapons. So you could sell that.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: Okay. Venezuela's thing,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: people just didn't really care. And the end goal of I'm gonna get this dictator that is fairly well known for being a dictator and capture him is probably like an average public plus. Like people would view that just like that's fine.

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Mike Smith: But like Greenland, what what's in Greenland?
Nathan Brady: you know, I I've I've tried to put Yeah,
Mike Smith: Why do you got to why do you want to go to Greenland?
Nathan Brady: I've tried to get my finger on the pulse of that. It doesn't seem like there's as much support as as some of the other things you were just talking about. Um I we we do know in Greenland there's overwhelming support for independence from Denmark. I think that's always the case when you ask a, you know, uh, a country within its naturalized citizens, hey, do you want to break away from Britain?
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Do you want to do that? Do you want, Of course, there's always that. Um, but a recent poll showed only 6% of those people in favor of independence from Denmark would support US annexation. I mean, they're they're literally what it doesn't make any sense. I mean,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: what benefit
Mike Smith: Well, and and I'm sure that they're looking at uh other countries that have become American uh uh what are they called?

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Nathan Brady: annexed by Yeah.
Mike Smith: Well, not annex,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: but like you know, our our uh there's a word for it. They're not states,
Nathan Brady: territories.
Mike Smith: territories. Yeah. American territories. And they're like,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: man, Puerto Rico doesn't get much help when they have uh
Nathan Brady: That's not true.
Mike Smith: problems.
Nathan Brady: He'll throw paper towels into a crowd,
Mike Smith: But like Greenland still gets support from,
Nathan Brady: you know.
Mike Smith: you know, their their parent country as it is. They're just like, I'm not going to go with America. I got healthcare and stuff and like I don't I don't want that.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. How do you think Puerto Rico and Guam and and territories feel when they when they see all these and
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: not really even jokes of like, oh, Greenland will be the 51st state and you know, Canada will be the 50th and all that stuff and they're just sitting there like what the
Mike Smith: right.

00:29:37

Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: what we're literally here.
Mike Smith: Hi. We're here. No, we're not.
Nathan Brady: Um and and of course I mean favorability for for that has dropped among those territories uh thanks to Trump because uh the world the US favorability uh across the globe has dropped significantly.
Mike Smith: How's it? Is it going really well or
Nathan Brady: Um no it's no it's it's not going really well as I as I bet you can imagine. And I and I think um I I forget who I I saw it from.
Mike Smith: oh
Nathan Brady: It was probably uh just on Justin's feed or or somewhere else where um there was a a Reddit Reddit post or something that was going that was going viral where um a citizen of Greenland had said, "Stop sending us your apologies," you know, to American citizens. are saying, "We don't care that you're sorry and you didn't vote for this and whatever because the world sees you, America, as one united front and you're either doing something to stop it or you're not.

00:30:42

Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I don't want to hear your apologies." So, we see all Americans this way. Just like, you know, in World War II, you saw all German citizens in one way. Okay? It wasn't like people were like, "Oh, I feel so bad for those Germans." You know, that's not how they were viewed.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: And this is currently the way that the rest of the world is looking at the United States. And it's embarrassing. I mean, I have never been so embarrassed to be an American citizen.
Mike Smith: It's
Nathan Brady: Now, that doesn't mean I want to denounce my American citizenship.
Mike Smith: right. No,
Nathan Brady: People are going to see say that no.
Mike Smith: I I want I I just want America to be better. I don't I'm not like I'm embarrassed and I I wish I wasn't an American.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: No, I wish that Americans wanted better than this.
Nathan Brady: No. Right. Right. Exactly that. So, um I I don't This This is so great.

00:31:39

Nathan Brady: Literally, I mean, I wish I could just have a normal podcast where we could talk, you know, about politics and things could be a little bit more normal again. But every day I feel like a new story pops up and I'm like, "We're going to pod about this today." and we get on the pod and I'm just like I I I don't know what to say because every all of this is
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like I So,
Nathan Brady: unprecedented
Mike Smith: we we've known each other a while and we talked politics for a long time. Um, but it it's feel it's feeling like it's just getting crazier. Like, I see what the rights doing yearover-year and they're just getting crazier sort of at a baseline. I mean, I'm thinking back to like, you know, tea parters and I was like, at the time I was like, well, this is as crazy as it can get. What the hell? And then like Trump comes along and I'm like, oh my god, this is so much crazier than the Tea Parties.

00:32:34

Mike Smith: And then Trump, too. And I'm going, oh, the world has gone completely insane.
Nathan Brady: And I mean so that I mean that's what the history books will talk about is that Trump kind of became the leader, you know, of that Tea Party movement and turned it into that MAGA movement. There were people that were ripe and ready for that.
Mike Smith: Right. Yeah. Frothing at the mouth,
Nathan Brady: Just like Right.
Mike Smith: you know, vitrial and all
Nathan Brady: Right. But but but you know why those people were ready for something like that is because they didn't
Mike Smith: that.
Nathan Brady: have Among Udani. They didn't have I mean I will always go back and point out that one time that Bernie Sanders went on Fox News uh did that Fox town hall
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: and and uh the the the the people in the audience were allowed to actually listen to what he had to say without getting some stupid sound bite with some in the no spin
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: zone, you know, with some some nonsense attached to it.

00:33:29

Nathan Brady: and they were allowed to listen to what he said and they cheered him on and they cheered him and they clap and it was it was pretty it was
Mike Smith: Yep.
Nathan Brady: pretty embarrassing for Fox. But there is an insanely gaping hole in the Democratic party um that needs to be filled. Boy, I hate the way that I worded this.
Mike Smith: Oh boy, we got phrasing right
Nathan Brady: My god, I really wish I didn't go down that road.
Mike Smith: here.
Nathan Brady: um with with by somebody like a Bernie Sanders,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: a Zoran Mani um a a and I hate to say it,
Mike Smith: I mean, I think you I was just about to say you hit the hammer.
Nathan Brady: a populist
Mike Smith: You hit the nail on the head there. And you know, and we we've said that we've talked about this a lot on the pod and off, but you know, Trump, for all his faults, is a populist and he rallies the support of people around popular in his zeitgeist ideals, right?

00:34:23

Mike Smith: You know, we want to get rid of criminals is a big fluffy idea that is easy to get people to rally around, right?
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: We want to balance the budget is a big easy idea. We want to cut your taxes. big easy idea, populist style ideas,
Nathan Brady: Sure. Sure.
Mike Smith: not gonna do any of the stuff the way that yeah,
Nathan Brady: They want to lower grocery prices and make things more consistent.
Mike Smith: we're gonna lower grocery prices and we're gonna make housing affordable and and you're just saying these things,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: Whereas the liberals generally are more negative and they're like, "Vote for me. I can't lower gas prices." And you're like, "That's a terrible message. Don't campaign on that." And Mundan is like,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: "What if when I become governor, we do a rent freeze and we try and work on fixing rent rates for people throughout the the whole city, right? Like what what what if we do that? That's an idea." And people were like,

00:35:20

Mike Smith: "Whoa, holy s***, an idea. Let's try something.
Nathan Brady: I I think one of the other things that Mumani has been doing so effectively and again if you watch his full uh interview on the view today, he did this again today is he talks about government in the way that uh in a in a way that it should be working for the people, right?
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: And it's not about being afraid of the government or getting the government out of your lives and and and which you
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: know that's remember that's what the Republicans used to be about is is less government interference,
Mike Smith: That's
Nathan Brady: you know, states rights, all of this. But but the way that Mandani frames it is if there's any government involvement in your life, it should be to make your life better. And while I'm here,
Mike Smith: should be.
Nathan Brady: I'm going to do that. I'm going to in every way that the government is already involved in your life,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: we're going to try and make it better.

00:36:17

Nathan Brady: And he's really such an effective communicator in that regard. And I don't think anybody sees the United States federal government, I mean, the American population as a whole, they don't it's they don't see it favorably and they haven't for a long time. The look, I I don't think US Congress numbers have been favorable over 50%.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I don't I don't know ever, you know.
Mike Smith: Ever.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. And there's a reason for that.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: It's because there is a need there is a desperate need from the American people that the US government fulfill its purpose, which is to support uh the American people and be representatives for the American people, not uh in not be a entity that is there to just enrich itself and give itself more power, which is currently all it is.
Mike Smith: Right. No, that's a really good point. Um, that sort of framing and messaging is is going to just win over people because it's so obvious.
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: Like even when we have conversations with libertarians or Republicans,

00:37:18

Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: you know, we speak to them and we talk about social services, we talk about the fire department, police departments, things like that. And they're sort of taken as a given as these are on the whole good uh social programs to have. And then so we start at that baseline of okay, we agree that there are some social programs the government can provide that are a net good. We think that there could be more and that's all we're saying.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: And I understand that you don't like the government meddling in your lives. I understand that you want less government. But it's because of the failings of government that I think you feel that way. If the government functioned smoothly and we had a, you know, a nationalized health care system that worked for its citizens like other real countries, then you'd probably be fine with it. You'd say, "Yes, this is working for me. I like this. I don't like these other things." But maybe you like
Nathan Brady: Yeah. I mean, you look at other countries,

00:38:18

Mike Smith: that.
Nathan Brady: even even, you know, in the UK, even the people on the opposite side of the aisle, even the people that are are are, you know, farther to the right, so long as they're not listening to the propaganda about, you know, um, taking down the NIH or whatever, a lot of those people are just happy with their they look at what's going on in the United States and they go, I can't even imagine. Like, I'm sorry, you have to you could go into debt for having children. I thought the United States and their current leadership and the Elon Musk talking heads are upset
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: about the population decline,
Mike Smith: The declining birth rates. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: declining birth rates.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: But you're telling me that your whole life will get turned upside down because you'll be tens of thousands of dollars in debt just from the pre the pregnancy and birth. Never mind the fact that there's no universal child care. You know, education is falling apart, you know. So now you're supposed to tell me that that you want to do the same thing in the United Kingdom.

00:39:19

Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: P hard pass.
Mike Smith: And I I just want to sweep that back to, you know, the American court here the and say like a lot of the reasons that people and it I think it relates back to immigration. A lot of the reasons that normal people who otherwise aren't evil and just living their lives may have a a an unfavorable view of the immigration situation is because of the institutions that have let us down. Imagine you're just minding your own business driving to work and an accident occurs and you are in a car accident with an an illegal immigrant. They don't have insurance. They don't have anything. Well, okay. In California, we have no fault insurance coverages. So that you must be covered car insurance, but if you get into an accident that's not your fault and the other person doesn't have insurance or they're not whatever, your insurance will pay for it and your premiums can't go up. However, that doesn't apply to health care at all in our stupid country.
Nathan Brady: No, no.

00:40:17

Mike Smith: So now you're injured in a way where you have to go to the hospital and you have to spend time in the hospital in a room with on an IV with medications and things. you just you just landed the lottery for a negative $500,000 uh bill cuz that's the way the system works and it's designed that way.
Nathan Brady: Right. Right.
Mike Smith: Now imagine that you're that person. You're you're not pissed off at the health care system because it's an intangible thing. You're pissed off at that immigrant who crashed into you. And I understand that. I can I don't I mean I don't empathize with it, but I understand feeling that way. But it's the systems in this country that are actually letting you down,
Nathan Brady: the the the right but but so let's
Mike Smith: not the
Nathan Brady: let's just just talk about that point for just one quick second.
Mike Smith: people.
Nathan Brady: It's that exact framing that uh the leadership the Republican leadership and and national media is giving to say again and I'm calling it Nazi propaganda.

00:41:15

Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: It's don't look over here behind the curtain.
Mike Smith: Mhm.
Nathan Brady: It's the immigrant's fault that did it. he's the one that did this to you because Mike the situation you just just described is so rare you know that you know f but if you had nationalized healthcare that wouldn't even
Mike Smith: Yeah, it exactly.
Nathan Brady: be you wouldn't even you know it it'd be
Mike Smith: You you you'd knock that corner case out. It wouldn't be a problem.
Nathan Brady: right
Mike Smith: But the sentiment that comes out of those sorts of things all the time of systemic
Nathan Brady: No.
Mike Smith: failures with no one to point to except the other one person in the situation causes this sort of you know hatred of immigrants because there's no one else to hate. Like you you're not going to hate Etna for not covering your bills.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: You might be mad that you have to pay for it, but like that person did a thing in that situation that that's easier for a human to understand and rationalize about.

00:42:07

Nathan Brady: And and the truth of the matter is you could say how could the American people not be in favor of a system like this? But the truth of it is they are. You know,
Mike Smith: Right. Yeah. No,
Nathan Brady: the the majority of Americans
Mike Smith: when people are asked when they're actually pulled, you know, when if you don't say socialized healthcare and instead you say, "What if the government would just pay your medical bills with tax
Nathan Brady: Even a little scary to say it that way. But yeah.
Mike Smith: money when you're injured or when you go to the hospital?
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Even scary to say it that way because of the way that the media and Republicans have framed it is like, well, you why should you have to pay for somebody else getting sick? I'm sorry. Why should I have to pay for going into Venezuela carpet bombing the place and extracting a you know please don't tell please don't tell me we don't have money for the this is one of the things I love about what

00:42:50

Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Mandani did immediately is don't tell me we don't have money for child care I'm going to go in oh look at this poof it's there where were the tax were the taxes raised where is anybody paying anything more for it no and if anybody does eventually It won't be the person, you know, it won't be the working class. It'll be the people whose for some reason taxes since the Reagan era have been cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. Meanwhile, the separation of wealth continues to grow such that the working class is a just it's a poverty class, you know, it's a below the poverty line class almost.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I mean,
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: it's in it's insane.
Mike Smith: and he did what we all It's simple, right? You especially in New York, you're like, why am I paying all these police officers to have six or seven police officers standing around in the subway with nothing to do for all hours of all days? like I can cut that down to one police officer and now I'm saving hundreds of thousands of dollars that I can use for health care or I can use for child care,

00:44:00

Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: whatever the the thing is. It's just a restructuring of the budget.
Nathan Brady: And it's
Mike Smith: It's so obvious to people who live there,
Nathan Brady: it's it's such
Mike Smith: but it's optics. Then they're going to be like, "He's against the police.
Nathan Brady: an
Mike Smith: He doesn't like he's anti law and order." And you're just like, "No,
Nathan Brady: the the root of it all,
Mike Smith: it's a waste of money.
Nathan Brady: right, for for the people who are upset about crime and want to lower crime rates is the thing that they don't understand is you don't lower you can't lower crime rates. This has been proven. You can't lower crime rates by putting more police on the streets, right? Because the root cause of crime is something that you have to solve. And this is food inequity, you know, uh uh poor wages and education, poor mental health care. If you don't solve those things,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: in fact, those things are only getting worse, you're not going to solve crime, okay?

00:44:51

Nathan Brady: You're just you're just putting more police on the street to meet more crime instead of solving the
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: root cause.
Mike Smith: And and today's the immigration episode. I'm done with it. If you want to solve immigration in a meaningful way, make a path to citizenship that is attainable for a person, you know, of of all like if all make it easier, make it possible to become an American citizen. Most of the stories I hear about becoming an American citizen require you to a be wealthy and b have a
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: sponsor and c take years of tests and Yeah.
Nathan Brady: 15 years. Yeah.
Mike Smith: And then and then you're just added to a pile which apparently is one guy checking one paper
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: once a month for all of time and they just don't let people become citizens.
Nathan Brady: Right. Right. The truth of the matter is a lot of those people
Mike Smith: And so of course of course you're going to become an illegal an illegal immigrant because you need to get out of that country today,

00:45:48

Nathan Brady: Yeah. So,
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: so there's two two things to just point out here. A lot of the people that ISIS is is arresting and attacking and and the supporters are attacking are people who were nationalized, naturalized, who are allowed to be here because they were asylum seekers. We're talking about green card holders as well,
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: you know, work visas. All of these people,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: these people uh look at um um um Abrego Abrego Garcia is another good point.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: You know, he was going through the the proceedings. Um oh my god, I can't believe I'm forgetting the his name. It's right on the tip of my tongue. The Colombia graduate. Um please help me.
Mike Smith: Khalil.
Nathan Brady: Uh huh. Khalil. Yeah. Yeah. Uh thank you.
Mike Smith: Khalil.
Nathan Brady: He you know that's a that's a man who did it right. Suddenly he's not speaking the politics you like.

00:46:42

Nathan Brady: I that's the most unAmerican thing I can imagine. And it's this this nonsense that the Republicans have put into their zeitgeist now where they're the real patriots and anybody who is not politically aligned with them is not an American. That is the most unAmerican thing I can imagine.
Mike Smith: sounds like fervent nationalism.
Nathan Brady: you know where have
Mike Smith: Was there uh there any history around fervent national nationalism that we
Nathan Brady: I. No, no,
Mike Smith: should use for context?
Nathan Brady: no. Fervent nationalism and No,
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: no, I don't think so.
Mike Smith: No rampant just nobody don't have to worry about that as a problem.
Nathan Brady: I don't think we've been I don't think we've been talking about Nazi
Mike Smith: That's not a thing that we should
Nathan Brady: propaganda for most of the episode. I don't think we've been No.
Mike Smith: just
Nathan Brady: So, so yeah. Um I just want to I want to go back. I wanted to make this point a little while ago. So, I I want to just go back to it really quickly.

00:47:32

Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: imagine if we didn't have a fire department. Okay, so imagine fire departments didn't exist.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: As of right now, today, fire departments don't exist. Houses burn down. Um maybe maybe neighbors help out when when bad things like this happen. I think that the right I think that the right-wing media, etc. would find a way to uh make their base against having a fire department. They would be like, "Well, you should have, you know, you you should pull yourself up by the bootstrap, your bootstraps, have better hoses, have better whatever." But because the fire department exists and it works and you know, generally fire is kind of seen in a way like law enforcement because they help out in a lot of those situations. A lot on the right are like, "Yeah, no, the fire department is fine.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: The police department is fine." But if that didn't exist today, I guarantee you the right-wing media would find a way to turn their base against such an idea.

00:48:34

Nathan Brady: And that's exactly what they're doing with with healthcare.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: So, I don't know how we overcome that, but I do know that at least the majority of Americans want that. And it's not us that's stopping it from happening. It's not the American voter that's stopping it from happening.
Mike Smith: No, it's not the people that
Nathan Brady: It's not the people, it's the representatives of the people that are stopping it from happening.
Mike Smith: is
Nathan Brady: And so we need more representatives like Zoran Mani um who would be willing to say I don't care if this campaign for the next six years in the Senate gets me uh doesn't get me reelected. I am here to give to bring the people what they want and that and if and if the people want uh you know healthc care for all then that's what I'm that's what I'm going to do and we we just need
Mike Smith: Yeah. And I mean,
Nathan Brady: more of
Mike Smith: we've we've seen precedent with, you know,
Nathan Brady: that.
Mike Smith: states and and municipalities in some cases actually making that work.

00:49:31

Mike Smith: Like it's it has precedent.
Nathan Brady: Okay. Um, do we have anything else that we wanted to talk about today before we close the lid on this on episode
Mike Smith: Let's see.
Nathan Brady: 55?
Mike Smith: Oh, yeah. Let's Let's talk about our good friend Lindsay Hall a little bit.
Nathan Brady: Okay, can we Okay,
Mike Smith: Got to talk about Lindsay Hallan,
Nathan Brady: can we please do this because because this is so so funny.
Mike Smith: of course.
Nathan Brady: I want to I don't want to bring it up that particular like I'm going to bring up this one here.
Mike Smith: Funny.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: It is so
Nathan Brady: this this was the stuff that was giving me life this morning.
Mike Smith: funny.
Nathan Brady: I I will I will definitely say that a federal judge this morning strikes the words United States Attorney from Lindseay Hagan's signature and warns that he will refer to her refer her to disciplinary proceedings if she persists in calling herself one. So I want to point out that Judge David J Novak is a Trump appointee.

00:50:26

Nathan Brady: Okay, he is a Trump appointed judge and he's he's getting pretty sick of this s***.
Mike Smith: They're
Nathan Brady: Uh it I mean these people are making just a mockery out of um No,
Mike Smith: just not they're not abiding by any judges at all.
Nathan Brady: but but it's
Mike Smith: Like they've had cases thrown out because she's not a valid uh
Nathan Brady: al
Mike Smith: uh uh attorney general or Yeah. Right. Attorney general.
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: That's what she's not.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Mike Smith: And she keeps claiming it. They were like,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: "You can't even sign on this because you're not an attorney general. You're some schmuck." So, case dismissed.
Nathan Brady: So, he continues to say uh I'll say that Adam Clausfield has said judge judge David Novak, a Trump appointee, slams Pam Bondi and Todd Blanch for responding to him with a level a level of vitriol more appropriate for a cable news talk show than the DOJ. And and man, did they nail it.

00:51:20

Nathan Brady: I this is this is exactly what happened. And by and and by the way, a lot of these appointees uh the Pam Bondies uh the they had dem they had Dems uh uh um um Christine Gnome Dems like Tim Kaine in the Senate had to approve her and they
Mike Smith: I had to approve them.
Nathan Brady: did. Yeah.
Mike Smith: What?
Nathan Brady: And they did.
Mike Smith: What a disgrace.
Nathan Brady: They did, you know.
Mike Smith: They need to shut like I don't How do they do
Nathan Brady: and and now you've got Janine Pyros that are that are that are prancing around um in these completely unqualified positions
Mike Smith: this?
Nathan Brady: making a mockery out of these courts and these judges they've they've had it this ain't gonna this ain't going to fly you
Mike Smith: Yeah. They're like They're like,
Nathan Brady: know
Mike Smith: "This either matters or nothing matters, so get it together." I I just love it so much. just being like,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: "Stop putting this next to your name. It's a lie.

00:52:15

Mike Smith: Stop it. Just stop or I'm going to find you
Nathan Brady: Um, so,
Mike Smith: condemned.
Nathan Brady: so I'm going to go on. I I want to read this paragraph here from Judge Novak. Um, Miss Haligan's response in which she was joined by both the attorney general and the deputy attorney general, contains a level of vitriel more appropriate for a cable news talk show and falls far beneath the level of advocacy expected from litigations in this court, particularly the Department of Justice. The court will not engage in a similar tit fortat and will instead analyze the few points that Miss Halligan offers to justify her continued identification of her position as United States Attorney before the court. Ultimately, the court concludes for reasons that follow that Miss Halligan's continued identification of herself as the United States Attorney for this district ignores a binding court order and may not continue. Otherwise, Miss Halligan and anyone who joins her on pleading containing the improper moniker subjects themselves to potential disciplinary action in this court pursuant to the court's local rules.

00:53:22

Nathan Brady: So, I would love to see that. I would love to see some accountability here. I'm not sure what this means and what will happen, but I I very much enjoyed this this morning. Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: so I'd love to see more of
Mike Smith: I mean, it it's just it just more of the same, right?
Nathan Brady: this.
Mike Smith: Because it was the Leticia James suit that was thrown out because she had signed her name on and she was appointed she wasn't
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: appointed legally and they just they dismissed it. They were like,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: "Well, you're not a lawyer. Can't do this. You're not They're just like,
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah.
Mike Smith: bye." So,
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: I mean, this is this is all Yeah,
Nathan Brady: you're not you're not a legally appointed uh yeah US attorney.
Mike Smith: I whatever.
Nathan Brady: Uh so this has been it it's it's fun to watch.
Mike Smith: But man,
Nathan Brady: Um I'm not I'm not I'm not down the uh judicial rabbit hole

00:54:04

Mike Smith: there's
Nathan Brady: as a lot of the people that we follow. So some of this stuff comes up and I'm like I mean it makes sense to me.
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: I'm reading it and enjoying it,
Mike Smith: this is No,
Nathan Brady: you know, but I don't know.
Mike Smith: this is this is my I Nobody knows
Nathan Brady: Well, sure, but you don't know what happens next, right? Like, okay, let's
Mike Smith: what happens next, but this is my drug.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: I I live for the Legal Eagle episodes that cover this kind of thing because it's just it's so amazing. It's my reality
Nathan Brady: Oh, yeah. No, I'm I'm with you on that.
Mike Smith: TV.
Nathan Brady: I'm I'm totally with you on that. So, um I we wanted to share that because at least this morning for me, it was like, oh, this is a this is a fun thing to wake up to and read. So,
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: um Okay. Anything else you want to cover?

00:54:49

Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: we did it.
Nathan Brady: I think we're good.
Mike Smith: We have done it.
Nathan Brady: I think we did it.
Mike Smith: Another podcast
Nathan Brady: Hey, listen. Congratulations to us just for being here,
Mike Smith: successful.
Nathan Brady: you know, and just for continuing to read this stuff every single day. And just congratulations to all of you out there who just managed to exist and get up in the morning when we are every day seems like something unprecedented happens and it's mind-blowing happens and it's just um I I just
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: remember you know eight or nine years ago you know uh Barack Obama's I mean I guess it was a lot longer than that now Barack Obama's uh tan suit was what covered the news cycle for a week, you know, and now we have a, you know, twominut news cycle where like the most insane thing that has ever happened happened two minutes ago and the most insane thing that ever happened will happen again in two minutes. Um, and that's just where we that's just where we are right now.

00:55:47

Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: And I mean that's that's ju just go one more.
Nathan Brady: okay.
Mike Smith: That's their strategy is to flood the zone.
Nathan Brady: Of course.
Mike Smith: We know that the strategy is is be crazy and do all of these things so that no cycle is no
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: news cycle is dominated by the one thing except the Epstein files which is still a
Nathan Brady: I was going to say, I mean,
Mike Smith: problem.
Nathan Brady: we should probably end the show on, hey, release the Epstein files.
Mike Smith: release the Epstein files.
Nathan Brady: I mean,
Mike Smith: You're legally required to do that.
Nathan Brady: and less than 1% of the Epstein files have been released, and already some of the stuff we're seeing out of that is just incredible.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Can you imagine? Um,
Mike Smith: They're like, "So much of this is Trump.
Nathan Brady: okay.
Mike Smith: How do we do this?"
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Mike Smith: Okay.
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