Zohran's Victory, DOJ vs Judges, and Minnesota's Right-Wing Terror
From grassroots victories to judicial attacks: democracy's latest battles
Episode Description
In this episode, Mike and Nate celebrate Zhoran Mamdani's surprising victory over Andrew Cuomo in the NYC Democratic mayoral primary, analyzing how grassroots campaigns focused on real issues can overcome establishment politics. They examine the baseless accusations of antisemitism leveled against Mamdani for criticizing Israeli policies, highlighting the double standards in political discourse. The conversation shifts to the DOJ's unprecedented lawsuit against federal district judges in Maryland, challenging judicial immunity and the separation of powers. They discuss the shocking assassination attempt on Minnesota Democratic House Speaker Melissa Hortman by a right-wing Christian nationalist, contrasting it with the right's initial false claims about the shooter's political affiliation. The episode concludes with updates on Mahmoud Khalil's release from ICE custody and the widespread protests across the country, offering hope for progressive movements despite the current political climate.
Show Notes
- Judge blocks Trump plan to tie state’s transportation funds to immigration https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-judge-blocks-trump-plan-tie-states-transportation-funds-immigration-2025-06-19/
Transcript
00:00:00
Nathan Brady: All right, here we go. Hey everyone and welcome to another episode of the Blue Sedition podcast. I'm Nate Brady alongside my co-host.
Mike Smith: I'm Mike Smith. Everybody, welcome back to the Blue Edition podcast.
Nathan Brady: Well, welcome,
Mike Smith: Glad
Nathan Brady: welcome,
Mike Smith: to have
Nathan Brady: welcome, welcome. Glad Well, glad to Yeah, I guess we're glad to have you. I'm glad glad to be happy to be here or some something.
Mike Smith: not not that as much
Nathan Brady: Not
Mike Smith: but
Nathan Brady: we're not happy to be there.
Mike Smith: not
Nathan Brady: Here.
Mike Smith: happy
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: to be anywhere these
Nathan Brady: All
Mike Smith: days
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: but
Nathan Brady: Yeah, feels like it. A lot of stuff has happened. I think we missed the show last week. Um, so I don't know, some some lawmakers were shot. There were military parades. Um,
Mike Smith: yeah
Nathan Brady: a communist one, the Democratic primary for New
Mike Smith: Sure.
00:00:46
Nathan Brady: York City. Um,
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: we I mean, anything else happened? I think a senator from California was like pinned to the ground and removed from a presser.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: Tackled arrested by some, you know, uh, goosteppers and brown shoes. Doesn't matter.
Nathan Brady: the DOJ is suing an entire uh federal branch uh bench. Um, I I don't know
Mike Smith: Where do we start, mate?
Nathan Brady: that that's it. I want to start with Okay, so my my person because it's the most recent thing. Um, it happened just last night and and a lot of people are losing their minds, including Trump. Um, I want to start with Zoron Mdani who uh defeated sex pest Andrew Cuomo. Did I get that right?
Mike Smith: You
Nathan Brady: Sex
Mike Smith: got that
Nathan Brady: pest.
Mike Smith: right. Sex
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: past Andrew
Nathan Brady: Sex
Mike Smith: Ko
Nathan Brady: pest Andrew Cuomo and
Mike Smith: disgraced.
Nathan Brady: grandma killer.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
00:01:41
Nathan Brady: Disgraced
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: sex pest and grandma killer.
Mike Smith: yesh.
Nathan Brady: Andrew Cuomo in
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: the in the New York City mayoral uh Democratic primary. Now people are already acting like Manny has won the mayoral election. Uh which is you
Mike Smith: which
Nathan Brady: know
Mike Smith: he
Nathan Brady: not
Mike Smith: has.
Nathan Brady: the case.
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: I mean
Mike Smith: no. It's not
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: It's
Nathan Brady: mean
Mike Smith: not the case.
Nathan Brady: I mean yeah um but if elected in November he would become the first Muslim and IndianAmerican mayor of New York City which
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: has a
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: very high population of both uh Jewish residents and uh Muslim Americans. So um wow. I mean where where do we begin with this? This is huge. I
Mike Smith: I it's very very big. Uh I think that it that there's a lot to unpack about it. Um a lot of things that we talk about on this podcast obviously all the time.
00:02:37
Mike Smith: Um, but a lot of the key takeaways here is that it just flies in the face of the conventional democratic wisdom for for running elections. I mean, he ran against Cuomo who for all intents and purposes has name recognition and not for the reasons he should. So, people just know who he is
Nathan Brady: Mhm.
Mike Smith: and primary voters, you know, that that's who they go with a lot of the time. um unless they're really, you know, down ticket and they have a lot of key issues that they follow like we do. So, he was up against that. He was also the mainstream media, you know, mogul. Like every CNN, MSNBC, every legacy media you could think of had thrown their hat in the ring for Quomo and had written off the others as sort of, you know, just just upandcomers or upstarts who would get in his way. It didn't matter. you had, you know, Cavill and and pundits like that just talking about Cuomo is what the Democrat party needs and things like that.
00:03:36
Mike Smith: He was backed
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: he got he got the coveted endorsement from Bill Clinton did Quuomo
Nathan Brady: I believe
Mike Smith: and
Nathan Brady: libs of Tik Tok as well, which is what you
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: want. What
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: it?
Mike Smith: so I mean he you know Zor ran a campaign about local issues. He's trying to be
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: mayor of a city. He's like, "These are the real issues facing New York. I don't care about what the rest of the world says about New York. Here are the things that matter to the people who live here." And that
Nathan Brady: Right,
Mike Smith: really resonated with the actual voters. He got voters to show up because he's like, you know, housing inequality is a problem. Transportation's a problem. These are things we need to fix in New York City and they have real fixes that I can help with.
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: And people
00:04:18
Nathan Brady: healthcare,
Mike Smith: resonated
Nathan Brady: child
Mike Smith: with
Nathan Brady: care
Mike Smith: that.
Nathan Brady: is a problem. He
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: he
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: also big supporter of LGBTQ uh rights um pledge pledging millions of dollars um for transgender care as well and protections. Um meanwhile, Cuomo's campaign spent over $20 million
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um and got blown out of the water by a progressive grassroots movement. Where have we seen this? Uh, seems like seems like this happens a lot. And you would think that this would be a blueprint for Democrats
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um to to follow and to understand because this isn't going to be the last of this type of win.
Mike Smith: No.
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: And I think that that's the whole point is that if we're going to do anything, we need to have a lot of our our grassroots challengers, the actual people who care about running for people and not just about getting elected and then making all the money, uh to to go out there and and just campaign this way.
00:05:20
Mike Smith: Get loud about the actual things you're going to do. Not just not just doing the the uh what do they always call it, Nate? The uh type of battles we're always fighting. I don't even remember. Culture wars. Not just
Nathan Brady: Oh
Mike Smith: doing the
Nathan Brady: yeah,
Mike Smith: culture
Nathan Brady: sure.
Mike Smith: war nonsense. Like get out there and be like culture war be damned. Here's a real problem. Here's how I'm going to fix it. Like with Bernie's message about like health insurance sucks and we should offer a public alternative. Like that's a very straightforward thing to campaign
Nathan Brady: It's a
Mike Smith: on and for
Nathan Brady: simple
Mike Smith: people to understand.
Nathan Brady: message. Yeah. And I think the the contrast in messaging between Mandani and Quuomo is highlighted by the fact that once again we have this moderate who is just promising experience and no change.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: And
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: people don't want that.
00:06:10
Mike Smith: No.
Nathan Brady: People
Mike Smith: And he
Nathan Brady: want hope and change.
Mike Smith: Yes. And he also ran with the same sort of Bidenesque uh appeal of I know how to talk to the Republicans to get
Nathan Brady: Oh
Mike Smith: them to cooperate
Nathan Brady: Jesus Christ.
Mike Smith: and you're like no you f****** don't. You
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: never do. Sorry,
Nathan Brady: Listen,
Mike Smith: but you
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: know like
Nathan Brady: mean, this is this message needs to get across to people now before the midterms, before uh 2028. People are tired of moderates. Moderates
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: are not winning elections.
Mike Smith: and they're in they're ineffectual and they're ineffective. You don't know how to talk to Republicans and they don't have any interest in talking to you. I
Nathan Brady: They
Mike Smith: think
Nathan Brady: don't
Mike Smith: Biden proved that he's the closest to a Republican the Democrats have had for decades and the Republicans wanted nothing to do with him. They wouldn't work with him.
00:06:57
Nathan Brady: Now, I was told he was the most progressive um president in our lifetime. Is that
Mike Smith: I'm sure you were told that by like Libs of Tik Tok or Elon Musk or something, but
Nathan Brady: all right?
Mike Smith: you know,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: reality doesn't align with that.
Nathan Brady: I was told that by moderate libs who wanted me to, you know, get on get on board with, you know, their
Mike Smith: Who wanted you to shut up and vote blue no matter
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: who?
Nathan Brady: Right. Exactly.
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: now
Nathan Brady: so,
Mike Smith: we get to say we get, "Hey, hey, New York, shut up and vote blue no matter who." You hear
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: me?
Nathan Brady: Well, and and that's going to happen. Um, I think that there there are certainly a small group of people who I want to touch on this a little bit. Okay. So
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: there's I I've already dealt with this this morning
00:07:39
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um making personal statements on on my Facebook page among people that I know who I have a lot of moderate friends who
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: are now coming at it from the anti-semitic angle who are saying things like you know oh he's he ran a he ran a campaign I think I posted one of the um one of the the Facebook comments on our on our blue sky
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: um
Mike Smith: yeah.
Nathan Brady: you know he ran a campaign filled with Jew hate and you're like what? He he ran anti-semitic speech after speech and it's like okay citation needed friend like what give me the speech that that he made that was anti-semitic and you you can't do it because he
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: has
Mike Smith: think
Nathan Brady: said
Mike Smith: that I I think that that you have a lot of I think that this is really just showing the information gap amongst the the various sects of the political spectrum because we and we've talked about this before. There is an entire set of world understandings that goes along the lines of if you're not pro- Israel and anti-Gaza, you are anti-Semitic and they just I mean they exist on both sides of of the political spectrum pretty easily.
00:08:56
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: And so I'm guessing that there's a lot of that at play. They're just like he said he wanted the Gazin people to stop getting bombed. He's anti-Semitic.
Nathan Brady: And that
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: that's
Mike Smith: mean, I
Nathan Brady: seriously
Mike Smith: have to
Nathan Brady: what
Mike Smith: imagine
Nathan Brady: it is.
Mike Smith: that's it, right? Because you're not going to find a quote that's like, you know, this
Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: is simple
Nathan Brady: that's
Mike Smith: enough.
Nathan Brady: it. And people I guys, we have to stop this. you. First of all, what's hilarious to me are the moderate liberals who are defending what is essentially I mean for a fact a corrupt extreme right-wing Israeli
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: government.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: That's
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: that's what it is. the you literally have the Donald Trump of Israel and you have moderate liberals who are trying to like play this juggling act of Donald Trump is the worst thing that's ever happened to the United States and somehow the exact same corrupt man in Israel is is not.
00:09:52
Nathan Brady: And if you criticize him, you're actually criticizing all Jews. And what what are we talking about here? If you criticize Donald Trump, are you anti-Christian? No. What? It doesn't make sense.
Mike Smith: No, it's just gibberish. It's nonsense.
Nathan Brady: It's gibberish. It's gibberish.
Mike Smith: Uh
Nathan Brady: And And
Mike Smith: the one thing I will say uh about the whole thing is that I think that there is especially with traditional liberal Democrats where you're like just left of center, you you want to be like supportive of everything. You like a walk on eggshells to make sure that nobody gets hurt and stuff. And I really feel like they they are so quick to jump at you're doing this thing that makes you anti-Semitic and they don't stop to think about it. And what would be really interesting to me is to just get get some get some stats in front of their face. Um I'm going to give you some stats here, Nate, because
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: I I think this is really interesting.
00:10:52
Mike Smith: So, uh, Zoran Mandani, he he's projected to win, uh, the Democrat primary in New York City, obviously, with 93%
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: of the votes in. He's got 432,000 votes.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: Next up is Andrew Cuomo with 36 I'm sorry, uh,
Nathan Brady: 360.
Mike Smith: 3,600 Oh my god. 3,61 361,000. My lord. So he's he's roughly, you know, 90,000 if you got to check my math that dude because I'm I'm
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: messing
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: my
Nathan Brady: don't
Mike Smith: math
Nathan Brady: know.
Mike Smith: up here.
Nathan Brady: You're having a hard time with numbers right now, so I'm not trusting
Mike Smith: 432,000
Nathan Brady: anything you're saying.
Mike Smith: to 361,000.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: Okay. About 90,000 votes, right? So I'm curious to see at the end of this like what the the breakup of those voter blocks are like. How many Jews actually came out and voted for uh Mandani versus Cuomo? because I know that there's that New York City has a huge swath of Jewish people who live there and vote Democrat.
00:11:51
Mike Smith: So, it'd be interesting to see how they actually feel about, you know, is he anti-Semitic, is he not anti-Semitic, etc.? No.
Nathan Brady: It's the New York City has the largest Jewish population in the country.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: So I Exactly. I don't want to hear it, guys. I don't want I don't want to hear
Mike Smith: I mean,
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: if the guy ran an anti-semitic campaign and he got
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: the Jews to vote for him, then I guess good on him. I mean, I don't even know.
Nathan Brady: But but no, I'm not even feeding into that narrative. It's
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: just a ridiculous narrative. Okay. But but I will share with you the narrative that we're now seeing from the 1%. And by the way, before we I show that, I want to say that I always believe that the the fight between,
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: you know, criticizing power is anti-Semitic, which usually comes from Israeli media, Israeli government officials, etc. I believe that that is a battle of the 1% versus the 99%.
00:12:50
Nathan Brady: It's a battle between those that are trying to retain power or push the limits of their power,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: keep power versus the rest of us who are just trying to live our lives and going, "Wait a minute, what?" And here's a perfect example of that in an image. This is from today. So, CNBC host David Faber says, "Well, now the new mayor potentially of New York is going to freeze all the rents." And then Jim Kramer's first response is, "But how about the rich? Do they do they get shot? So, but what are they just gonna get shot? And this reminds me
Mike Smith: I'm gonna take
Nathan Brady: of
Mike Smith: Jim Kramer. I'm gonna put him up there with Chris. What's his name?
Nathan Brady: Matthews. It's exactly what it is. Chris Matthews asked, if you remember, I I don't know. I don't know if it was Super Tuesday or some some night where Bernie Sanders was having a big night in the uh Democratic primaries.
00:13:41
Nathan Brady: He asked on his on a show that he was co-hosting on MSNBC probably
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um because it was still when he still had hard ball. He asked uh listen if Bernie Sanders wins or something to that effect. If a socialist wins doesn't mean we're going to be executing people in Central Park, right? And this is this is the kind of ridiculous fear-mongering that regular people like us are like, "Give me a f****** break." Like, who is this? Who is this working
Mike Smith: Why
Nathan Brady: on?
Mike Smith: are they worried about this? Is Jim
Nathan Brady: Well, the
Mike Smith: Kramer worried that we're going to march him into Central Park and hang him because he's rich? Is that
Nathan Brady: these
Mike Smith: what he
Nathan Brady: people
Mike Smith: thinks?
Nathan Brady: these people are so disconnected from reality that
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: that
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: may actually be something that he's afraid of. And so good. I'm glad you're afraid of that.
00:14:30
Mike Smith: Good.
Nathan Brady: I want I want you to be afraid. But unfortunately, depending on what way you're looking at it, that's not going to happen. We're
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: not
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: There's no French Revolution, Reign of Terror, whatever uh going on here yet.
Mike Smith: Man, imagine imagine the guy imagine being asked if you're going to if if you think that the guy is going to raise rents and your retort is nobody's going to kill me because I'm rich. Like how does how does your brain work like that?
Nathan Brady: It It's I just Yeah. here here if we remember uh February 8th 2020 Chris Matthews warns of executions in Central Park if socialism wins. Of course, the the other connection that they're doing here, the other the other scare tactic, which has long been held by Republicans, is that they're taking somebody who says, I wish there was a better name, somebody who says that they're a democratic socialist,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: taking off the Democratic, not understanding what the meaning is, saying socialism, and boom.
00:15:31
Nathan Brady: It's kind of like the the right when they say, "Well, actually, Hitler was the head of the, you know, National Socialist Party of Germany when
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: he took over a gutted party and and hated socialism and hated everything on the left, etc." Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: they're just they're just doing the same nonsense that we're all I think we're all catching on now.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: A
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: majority
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: of
Mike Smith: don't
Nathan Brady: us are catching on.
Mike Smith: even even in uh in 20 I didn't feel like or even even 16 like I didn't feel like the electorate was as scared uh on the left of the word socialist or socialism as as the right is obviously um
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: they you know we had many uh I think it was before Super Tuesday is that they all went up there and everybody who wasn't Bernie was talking about how Bernie's a socialist and and he one Iowa as I recall and like
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: or maybe yeah I don't remember
00:16:28
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: which
Nathan Brady: he
Mike Smith: states
Nathan Brady: did and there was the whole scandal with Pete Buddhajedge and the the dark app like the the company that was doing like the the caucus app.
Mike Smith: my
Nathan Brady: But anyway, I digress.
Mike Smith: my
Nathan Brady: Yeah, go
Mike Smith: point
Nathan Brady: ahead.
Mike Smith: is that I don't think that the Democrat voters are as off-put to that as as the right is and I
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: think that a lot of people who are like like we said this classical liberal this left center very very tight left center area uh are still because they're, you know, most they're sort of Republican is what they
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: just they kind of are.
Nathan Brady: And so
Mike Smith: Oh, what
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: did the big guy say? What did
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: he say?
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: N
Nathan Brady: here we have we have a post uh it started today. I think it's his first mention of um of Zoron and he says it's finally happened.
00:17:11
Nathan Brady: The Democrats have crossed the line. Zoran Mandani a 100% communist lunatic because now now we've skipped democratic socialists. We've gone to socialist. Now we're equating socialism and communism. So we
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: move right to communist
Mike Smith: It's how
Nathan Brady: lunatic.
Mike Smith: we do
Nathan Brady: Okay. has just won the Dem primary and is on his way to becoming mayor. We've had radical lefties before, but this is getting a little ridiculous. He looks terrible. His voice is grading. He's not very smart. He's got AOC plus three dummies all backing him. There's a lot of commas here, guys. I'm trying to read this. The way it's written, I don't really understand it. And even our great Palestinian senator, Cryan Chuck Schumer, is graveling over him. Yes, this is a big moment in the history of our country. Now, I haven't seen the next one, which came out three minutes later, so I'm going to be reading this in real time.
00:18:06
Nathan Brady: I have an idea for the Democrats to bring them back into play. After years of being left out in the cold, including suffering one of the greatest losses in history, the 2024 presidential election, the Democrats should nominate low IQ candidate Jasmine Crockett for president. And AOC plus3 should be I don't what is AOC plus three? Is that like the squad? Is that what he's trying to say?
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: don't
Nathan Brady: AOC
Mike Smith: know.
Nathan Brady: plus three should be respectively vice president and three highlevel members of the cabinet added together with our future communist mayor of New York City Zoron Mandani and our country is really screwed now. I don't know. I liked everything he said
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: here.
Mike Smith: apparently AOC plus3 is Alexia Okasio Cortez with Diana Presley and Ilamar. So,
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: it's
Nathan Brady: Yeah, it's
Mike Smith: exactly
Nathan Brady: the squad.
Mike Smith: who we expected
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: it to be.
Nathan Brady: Okay. Uh so so yeah a great great idea actually.
00:19:06
Nathan Brady: Uh Jasmine
Mike Smith: future
Nathan Brady: Crockett's a
Mike Smith: communist
Nathan Brady: fire.
Mike Smith: mayor of New York. I mean, that's that's amazing.
Nathan Brady: So uh this goes back to what we were just saying previously. These are the scare tactics. The left tries to use them too. In fact, there are reports coming out none. I haven't none of this I've dug in to verify yet, but it sounds like the day of uh so yesterday um somebody in the um Quomo campaign was sending out pro- October 7th attack material to voters suggesting that it was from Zoron, suggesting that
Mike Smith: Oh, I haven't read that.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, dude. Dude, I mean, and I think we're going to see some of this. Um, just look at the Times of Israel, look at the Jerusalem Post, look at the things that were coming out about Mamani um, right before today and you'll realize how much money, how much influence, how much Apac type influence was put into trying to defeat Zoron. And even with the $20 million behind him and and all of the propaganda that Cuomo had working on his side, the grassroots movement from Mumami Mdani couldn't couldn't be stopped.
00:20:34
Nathan Brady: So, um Yeah.
Mike Smith: Yeah. I mean, that's that's what you want. You want the nonsense to get pushed to the side. You hope that people see through it, obviously.
Nathan Brady: Right. Right. Um,
Mike Smith: Um, it's a tough one, you know. Uh, and I just pulled it up. It looks like, you know, in the general he's going to be going against the current mayor, Eric Adams, who of course is embroiled with Huh.
Nathan Brady: that'll be that'll be such an easy victory. I mean, assuming no other things change. And it's
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: funny, there was talk of and I I didn't actually know what like November would look like. I'm not from New York, okay?
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: I'm not I'm not I wasn't looking that far ahead. I was really excited about this primary and just defeating Cuomo. There was talk about uh Quuomo playing a spoiler, but
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: are you are are people insane?
00:21:27
Nathan Brady: I want Cuomo to play a spoiler. Who do you think he's going to spoil? Manny or Adams? I mean, what?
Mike Smith: Well, you know, I don't actually know the answer to that.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: That's
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: pretty funny.
Nathan Brady: yeah,
Mike Smith: The funny thing is that that it would be a great thing if Mandani wins with the two corrupt guys splitting the ticket on the other side.
Nathan Brady: that's what
Mike Smith: That'd
Nathan Brady: I'm
Mike Smith: be
Nathan Brady: saying.
Mike Smith: really funny.
Nathan Brady: You're either voting for the corruption we know or you know th this new young energetic hopeful inspiring person that is uh saying basically what we've always what we've said on this podcast
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: literally from our first episode of the podcast which was that we believe in order to win elections in the United States both at the local level and the national level you need a and I don't want to say populist Because people get freaked out when you say that, but you need somebody that brings that sort of populist popularism to
00:22:29
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: elections. And Manny did that.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: That's it.
Mike Smith: Again, he's he's doing the right thing. He's speaking about issues that the voter base can relate to and he's proposing simple solutions. They may be complex in their implementation, but the solutions at the high level like Medicare for all for instance for with Bernie is a highlevel idea that anyone can understand and he's
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: proposing them greatly.
Nathan Brady: And
Mike Smith: Uh
Nathan Brady: you know,
Mike Smith: I'll also point out that he is going to have a couple of other people on the ballot with him besides Mayor Eric Adams and possibly Cuomo. He's gonna have Republican and founder of the Guardian Angels, Curtis Slywa, Sliwa. I don't know how to say his name,
Nathan Brady: okay.
Mike Smith: and former federal prosecutor Jim Walden. So, those are the Republican, you know, nods on the ticket. And I have to say, I don't live in New York, but I haven't heard of either of those people. I've heard of everyone else on the ticket.
00:23:21
Mike Smith: Um, as a non- New Yorker, I knew who Eric Adams was, and I know who Cuomo is. And obviously as a political follower we know who uh uh Mandami is.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: So
Nathan Brady: And I I want to say one more thing about this before we move on too is that um this was I think the first rank choice voting um election in for in New York City for mayor. Um, and it's I think we're going to get a lot of push back now from from from moderates and Republicans because Republicans
Mike Smith: Yes.
Nathan Brady: have always been against rank choice voting. But it proves something uh or or helps progressives in a way that I don't think moderates were ready for because
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: one of their talking points was always listen this guy can't win an election. So you have you have to vote for this
Mike Smith: we
Nathan Brady: guy
Mike Smith: must.
Nathan Brady: otherwise
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: he's going to lose. Well, now people could rank Zoron first and Cuomo second, assuming they did that.
00:24:28
Nathan Brady: And
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: that way, if Zoron didn't get enough to pass, it would put uh it would rank uh Quuomo up next. And then fine, now Libs, you got your guy because my guy didn't win. Okay, it's it's I love it. I I am I am all for it. And I think we're going to see push back from on rank choice voting from all sides now, which means that we're doing something right.
Mike Smith: Yeah, I think it's it's a great implementation. I think that it changes the nature of strategic voting obviously because
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: like you said in a traditional first pass the post vote, you have to be, you know, very considerate of your vote because you can't be like, well, I'm going to vote for Bernie Sanders anyway. I'm gonna write them into my ticket because then you're taking away a potential vote for Hillary Clinton or whoever. Um, but in rank choice, like you said, if we were in 2016 again, you know, most people could do the I'm going to put Bernie first and I guess if I have to, Hillary second and and who knows, it might change the outcome there.
00:25:35
Mike Smith: But at the very least in primaries, it it it allows you to do something uh like you saw here. I mean, uh, I'll point out that Brad Lander also ran with Zaron
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: Mandami and they had a very similar message where they were trying to focus on issues and solutions and they spoke progressively, we'll say, uh, to the the broader electorate. And, you know, Cuomo lost by less than the difference uh, of Brad Lander, right? And so there's still a chance, albeit a small one, but let's say that the rank choice system works out such that everybody who voted Cuomo at number one vote or rather everybody who voted Brad Lander at number one voted Quuomo number two. Well,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: that means that Cuomo actually won the election because in the next round where they do the counting, then he gets that 100,000 votes and that puts him over the top. And and so there is a scenario where people could be like, I just don't trust that other guy, but I want Lander.
00:26:34
Mike Smith: I like him as a, you know, Green Party candidate or whatever. And then I fall back to the the traditional Dem, you know, Cuomo, whatever. And so you still have your voice heard that way where you're like, I voted for my guy first and I got whoever second and maybe it works out. But so we'll still see what the results are. But I think most people are protect predicting that Zoran Mandami will will hold the lead since he and Brad were so so very, you know, idealistically uh uh uh like comparable. They had the same sort of ideas, the same sort of uh ways to to fix things. And so I think that they spoke the sort of same message. I think that
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: people, you know, so they probably voted the same way, just not Quomo.
Nathan Brady: And I mean that's another story that we had missed because we didn't have the pod last week, but Brad Lander uh was the guy uh who was trying to stop immigration from arresting uh somebody inside an immigration court last week and
00:27:31
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: was himself arrested. Um so so yeah um I I I I believe probably if you ranked Lander first, you had uh Zoron second.
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: think that's the smart money. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: yeah. But, uh, so I I don't think there's any question. I mean, even even Quomo, which s surprisingly Cuomo basically conceded last night, uh, and and, you know,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: said this was this was Mam Donnie's moment and congratulations to him and all of that stuff. So, um,
Mike Smith: But
Nathan Brady: imagine,
Mike Smith: does he run as a spoiler?
Nathan Brady: yeah, hard hard to say. Uh,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: and and I I think it would be I personally think it would be hilarious. Um,
Mike Smith: Really?
Nathan Brady: because I I I don't see I don't know. A little nerve-wracking. I don't think he'll do it, though. Nonetheless, I think I think he's I I
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: can't
Mike Smith: I
00:28:31
Nathan Brady: say
Mike Smith: think
Nathan Brady: he'll do the right thing. Um, I just I don't I don't think he will.
Mike Smith: No, I I don't think so either. It's just funny
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: to think about.
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: Okay,
Mike Smith: those silly sex pests.
Nathan Brady: those sex pests. Um, speaking of sex pests, actually, I don't think that Pam Bondi is a sex pest, though, though. Who knows? Uh, but I'm going to let you take the lead on this one. Can you tell me what what the heck is going on here?
Mike Smith: My god, man. Um, so the headline says it all. uh doesn't say it all, I should say, but but DOJ sues every federal district judge in Maryland, challenging the due process rights. Okay, so this is insanity. Uh
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: the first thing I'll point out is that this is the first legal claim of its type, and I fully expect there to be a Legal Eagle video on this in the coming days because it's so bizarre.
00:29:27
Mike Smith: Um the lawsuit challenges the core principle of judicial immunity for judges acting in their official capacity. So at the very first this is the judges have ruled in a way that the DOJ doesn't like. So they sued the judges for that judgment that they rendered and you can't do that. That's not a thing judges are allowed to do. Or rather that's not something that anyone's allowed to do. You can't imagine you lose a lawsuit over, you know, a car crash or something and then you sue the judge because you didn't win the lawsuit. It's gibberish.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: It would get thrown
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: out in the first 10 seconds it was seen by an actual judge.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: I mean, I expect that to happen in this case, too, because it's so outlandish. But basically the DOJ is arguing that that that this particular uh court of judges, I don't even know what they are. Board of judges um has overstepped the judiciary boundary, which is one of the three branches of like government.
00:30:23
Mike Smith: So I don't know how you do that because they're all equal. How can you overstep if if you all have equal whatever? um by ruling that there is an there must be a two-day stay when they try and deport someone without due process. They're like, "No, there's going to be a two-day stay and we're going to get some due process in here." And they and now they're suing them for that ruling ostensibly. It's um I don't I don't even know. Mark Mark Ellias obviously has the story here and he's and and he's arguing about it as well because this is very strange times we live in.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: But I don't see this going anywhere because if it does then the whole judicial system is completely and otherly beyond repair. If if any part of the judicial system, let's say that this makes it to Scotas and Scotas is like, "Yeah, you can sue a judge for the judgment they they they they lay down." Then we're going to be like, "I'm suing Scottas now. Who's
00:31:22
Mike Smith: gonna
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: who's
Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: gonna oversee this?
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: You
Nathan Brady: think
Mike Smith: have
Nathan Brady: that
Mike Smith: to
Nathan Brady: everybody agrees that um this isn't going to go anywhere, but it is a uh it is kind of shocking and and and terrifying that they're that they're even attempting something like this.
Mike Smith: the absolute
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: gull of them is of the DOJ and then Trump's, you know, toadies is is amazing. I'm I'm constantly astounded by it. I remember thinking the first uh Trump term they would do things and I was like, man, this is insane. They're really pushing the envelope here. But then in Trump Trump 2, electric bougler, they're just they're going completely insane. Everything is off. Nothing is off limits. I'll do whatever I want no matter how insane it seems. and and lawyers are I mean the thing that that sort of is boggling my mind is that the more uh lawsuits and um and filings and stuff we see out of the DOJ and the lawyers, you know, associated with DOJ and Trump admin generally is that these lawyers are signing their names on these things in the idea that they're going to succeed in in in so far as this won't ruin their career as a lawyer.
00:32:37
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: It's like if you
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: signed on to this and you were some lawyer at some firm and you didn't win this case, that firm's firing you and no other law firm is hiring you because of how ridiculous you are. Like
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: that's
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: just the
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: nature of of law practicing law as a lawyer.
Nathan Brady: I don't even think Pam Bondi is safe when when you know, this administration is is over, never mind all of the other lawyers that are working at the at the DOJ right now. I mean
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: to go to go back to your previous point, yeah, I remember Trump won and thinking how much I absolutely hated Bill Bar, but you know, the one the one thing about Bill Bar was that he was still a albeit he had all of these views that we disagreed with, um there were certain lines that he simply wouldn't cross, you
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: know. Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
00:33:24
Mike Smith: Well, I mean, he recognized the law as it was. And there were times, obviously, and this is true of of both sides, Republican and Democrat. But there will be people who be like, I do not understand or interpret that law in your way. I think that's wrong. I'm going to try and argue it my way in court. And you're like, at least you're standing with your principles. I don't agree with them, but they at the very least I can understand them making sense in your worldview. But this doesn't make any world sense. This is just insane.
Nathan Brady: No, it's in it's insanity. Yeah. Um, okay. I wanted to share some breaking news before
Mike Smith: Let's
Nathan Brady: we
Mike Smith: break
Nathan Brady: move
Mike Smith: some news
Nathan Brady: on to
Mike Smith: here.
Nathan Brady: the next
Mike Smith: I'm ready.
Nathan Brady: to the next. Uh, breaking news from The Onion. Andrew Cuomo subpoenas gyological records of the women who didn't vote for him.
00:34:11
Nathan Brady: So, I really I enjoyed that.
Mike Smith: Good.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: Good. Good.
Nathan Brady: okay. What else do we got? What do we want to move to next?
Mike Smith: Tim
Nathan Brady: Uh, we
Mike Smith: onion
Nathan Brady: have
Mike Smith: never misses, man.
Nathan Brady: No, they never
Mike Smith: So funny.
Nathan Brady: they really they really never miss. Um, man, I cannot believe, you know, because we didn't have a uh pod last week, I guess the the biggest breaking news um of the week. And it's crazy that we're already like moved on to like other
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: things,
Mike Smith: know.
Nathan Brady: right? It's so crazy that this is still um it just disappears like this. This would be news for like a a full year, maybe 10
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: years ago,
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: you know.
Mike Smith: I know
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: the thing is is like it Well, go ahead and lead in.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: Go
00:34:52
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: ahead.
Nathan Brady: I mean, I guess people who are just listening need to know what we're talking about, right? Um,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: we're we're talking about the assassination and attempted assassination of uh two Minnesota lawmakers. Um, they they uh I mean, you hopefully, if you're listening, you you already
Mike Smith: You've
Nathan Brady: know
Mike Smith: heard.
Nathan Brady: about this. You've
Mike Smith: You've
Nathan Brady: you've
Mike Smith: heard
Nathan Brady: I hope to God that you've already heard about this. Um, but Vance Bolter
Mike Smith: This is JD Vance.
Nathan Brady: um no similar name. I don't know if they're related.
Mike Smith: Different
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: Vance. Got
Nathan Brady: yeah,
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: could be the same family name. Uh, I do know that he is also a Trump supporter. Um, and, uh, right-wing Christian um, not extremist, what's the word? Evangelicalist. Uh, I don't know. Um,
Mike Smith: Extremist seems right. He shot
Nathan Brady: uh,
00:35:42
Mike Smith: two
Nathan Brady: well,
Mike Smith: people.
Nathan Brady: sure.
Mike Smith: So
Nathan Brady: But hey, by the way, just because I'm about to go on and say that I don't uh that I I hate this guy, this
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Christian nationalist,
Mike Smith: Yep.
Nathan Brady: it doesn't mean I hate all Christians.
Mike Smith: Yes, it does.
Nathan Brady: Did you get Oh,
Mike Smith: You're
Nathan Brady: okay.
Mike Smith: anti- whatever
Nathan Brady: I'm anti
Mike Smith: the word
Nathan Brady: whatever
Mike Smith: is.
Nathan Brady: this guy is. So,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: he's white
Mike Smith: Anti-eangelical
Nathan Brady: and Christian,
Mike Smith: or
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: whatever.
Nathan Brady: I'm anti-white Christian, right? Is
Mike Smith: Yes.
Nathan Brady: that how it works?
Mike Smith: That's
Nathan Brady: Is that how logical fallacies work? Yes, I believe it is.
Mike Smith: it's why you're
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: never getting elected in San Antonio.
Nathan Brady: so unfortunately uh this man um who was very sick and deranged um disguised himself or I I guess he he worked in security.
00:36:24
Nathan Brady: So, he had a um SUV looking, you know, uh police looking uh utility vehicle um and and went to the home in the middle of the night of uh Democratic House Speaker in in the state of Minnesota, Melissa Hortman. Um when she went to the door, he shot both her and her husband. And then and then he also shot uh John Hoffman who was a state senator in
Mike Smith: Of
Nathan Brady: Minnesota and his wife. Um and that was about 9 miles away. And it turns out of course he had a list of Democrats
Mike Smith: course,
Nathan Brady: and um anti-abortion centers that were um that he was targeting. So I think had he not been confronted by police at the second at his, you know, second location where they exchanged gunfire and he immediately he somehow got away. Um and you know he started his, you know, whatever you want to call it, his runaways, getaways, whatever.
Mike Smith: right? The the
Nathan Brady: He
Mike Smith: manhunt was on
Nathan Brady: the manhunt was on.
00:37:30
Nathan Brady: I I suspect he would have been on to the next house and the next house and the next house. Um, and for for whatever ungodly reason, uh, because he was a appointed or I should say to make it clear, reappointed to a bipartisan committee in the state of Minnesota by uh, Governor Tim Waltz several several years prior. the rights, the right-wing personalities who reach millions of people. I'm talking the cat turds because of course he's your leader on the right, the Elon Musks and you know the the Charlie Kirks of the world started sharing that this guy was a crazed Democrat, a violent Democrat. Democrats are violent going after other Democrats and anti-abortion clinics. Um, and of course it soon came out that this was this was not the case. He was a um a right-wing Christian nationalist um going after Democratic targets because of the rhetoric on the right.
Mike Smith: Has it ever been, you know, a lefty progressive, you know, crazy socialist or whatever that they talk about who's ever gone on the the killing spree.
00:38:54
Nathan Brady: I think there was.
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: Yes, there was that
Mike Smith: there
Nathan Brady: one
Mike Smith: was
Nathan Brady: guy.
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: What
Mike Smith: one guy I
Nathan Brady: wasn't
Mike Smith: think.
Nathan Brady: that ballpark that baseball park
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: uh
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: shooting
Mike Smith: That's what I was thinking
Nathan Brady: was
Mike Smith: of.
Nathan Brady: was supposedly I mean I didn't I I don't know. Um but can we just
Mike Smith: I just like the reactionaries on the right. They're all always like they're always like it's it's some crazy person on the left who's killing all these people on the left. And we're like, why? Why would that make any sense? Does that ever make any sense? And then
Nathan Brady: Whoops.
Mike Smith: the next day they're like, it's clearly a right-wing crazy person who's a
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: little too, you know, Christian and a little too gun nutty.
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: He's
Nathan Brady: mean,
00:39:29
Mike Smith: got a vendetta.
Nathan Brady: here it is, folks. I mean, it's posts like this. It's posts like the the the truth social post that Trump made talk saying that uh Zoran Mdani is a is a communist, you know, a communist lunatic. Where's the where are the liel lawsuits, by the way? I mean, these kinds of things, the the posts that Donald Trump, the president of the United States, with the ear of basically every American in the United States, calling you a communist lunatic, putting
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: your life in danger, how how is that just like, "All right, on to tomorrow. I guess the
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: president of the United States called me a communist lunatic."
Mike Smith: you you can't sue the president. We know that.
Nathan Brady: Oh, right. That's right. because it was within his official duties
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: as
Mike Smith: even
Nathan Brady: president.
Mike Smith: even before Scotas'
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: ruling, you can't have civil suits against the president. It just would get in his way too much.
00:40:25
Mike Smith: That was written
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: in
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: the Constitution. It can't happen.
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: Um
Nathan Brady: written into the Constitution.
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Is it
Mike Smith: You cannot sue the
Nathan Brady: what?
Mike Smith: president while he's president.
Nathan Brady: I don't I don't remember reading that in the I mean, I don't I don't I'm not a a constitutional lawyer,
Mike Smith: I'm pretty
Nathan Brady: but
Mike Smith: sure. Anyway, it it would interrupt his everyday duties is the the idea behind it. So, the president needs to focus on being the president and bombing Iran and stuff and he can't be dealing with the nitty-gr about his 7,000 lawsuits because he doesn't know how to shut his mouth up. The expectation was is you're going to elect a president who knows how to shut his mouth up and not get into so many cases where he needs to be sued. In
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: any case,
Nathan Brady: So, so anyway, no, just just to make sure that people don't walk away from this going, you can't sue the president.
00:41:13
Nathan Brady: You you indeed can and it is not there is there is no presidential immunity in uh in the US Constitution. I don't know. I don't know what you're I don't know what you're talking about, but um
Mike Smith: I must
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: be getting
Nathan Brady: can
Mike Smith: confused about something.
Nathan Brady: sue the president in civil court under specific circumstances and with limitations depending on whether the conduct in question was official or personal. And there is um so official acts you cannot sue the president. Unofficial personal acts, yes you can. Acts before the pres presidency but while during uh his term as president, yes you can. after leaving office? Yes, you can. Um, immunity only applies for official acts and not unofficial or personal acts. Um, Clinton versus Jones is an example. Clinton was sued um during the presidency for acts that occurred prior to the presidency. Um, so anyway, I think that's that leaves me with the question, what how how are we just allowing him to do this?
00:42:21
Mike Smith: Yeah, I guess you're right. I I don't know. I just
Nathan Brady: I mean, it's
Mike Smith: what
Nathan Brady: a it's a
Mike Smith: I'm sure that the the the level that you have to reach to prove
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: slander or liel or whatever that that it it it isn't reached here on truth social posts, but
Nathan Brady: I don't know, man. I mean, I think I can prove
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: that I'm
Mike Smith: sort of
Nathan Brady: not
Mike Smith: at
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: communist.
Mike Smith: stage now where we should fafo. I agree. I mean, maybe he takes some of his winnings and hires a lawyer and he's like, I'm going to sue the president for lie. Why not?
Nathan Brady: There's got to be a pro bono firm out there that is like the opposite of all the pro bono firms working for the president that
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: would gladly take on this case for
Mike Smith: Mark
Nathan Brady: the publicity
Mike Smith: Elliott,
00:42:55
Nathan Brady: alone.
Mike Smith: would you take on this this
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: uh this slander
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: liel case of
Nathan Brady: Yeah. I
Mike Smith: Zorn
Nathan Brady: just
Mike Smith: and we'll figure it out?
Nathan Brady: I just don't get it. I really don't get it. Um Okay. So anyway, uh DOJ sues every federal district judge in Maryland. Um hilarious. Nothing's going to come of it.
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: I wouldn't think
Nathan Brady: oh,
Mike Smith: so.
Nathan Brady: sorry. We were we were also on the I'm going back two
Mike Smith: You're
Nathan Brady: stories
Mike Smith: skipping
Nathan Brady: too far.
Mike Smith: back, buddy.
Nathan Brady: Uh because we were we were on uh Vance Walter. Um so anyway, he I don't I don't know what's happening in his case. I don't know, you know, next steps there. I can't believe this isn't like still the top story that we're all talking about, but this is just the times that we that we live in now.
00:43:40
Nathan Brady: So
Mike Smith: Yeah. And I and I I haven't I'm surprised frankly, but I haven't seen um any rumblings on the right. Now, admittedly, I'm not on Twitter, so I don't really see rumblings on the right very much anymore, except when you post them to
Nathan Brady: yeah,
Mike Smith: me directly to show me and fill me with hate. But
Nathan Brady: right. Sure.
Mike Smith: I haven't seen any rumblings on the right that are trying to do anything like equating this Vance guy with like a Luigi Manion. Like I I haven't seen them being like, "Oh, he's our,
Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: you
Nathan Brady: no,
Mike Smith: know,
Nathan Brady: no. I I don't
Mike Smith: Kill
Nathan Brady: think we're seeing
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: that
Mike Smith: Evil
Nathan Brady: because
Mike Smith: Ones guy.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, because they're still they're still um saying that it was either a false flag or he's an actual Democrat or, you know, whatever. So,
Mike Smith: They
Nathan Brady: they're
Mike Smith: haven't accepted that they they're just full of crazy people on their
00:44:26
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: side."
Nathan Brady: Right. Right. Right.
Mike Smith: All right.
Nathan Brady: Exactly. Exactly.
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: Um, I want to give an update on someone that we've been following uh a lot over the the past couple of months is Mahmood Khalil.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: And I I'm very, you know, excited. Again, this is something that was kind of just went under the radar for probably a lot of people. Um, but he was released from ICE custody. He's giving he's giving tons of interviews. He's talking about his experience. Um, I think one of the one of the things that alarming things that he said, which I I think we could all probably already guess, is that it doesn't matter all the flyers that you read about knowing your rights and whatever, it is your rights don't matter once you're in ICE custody. Um, you you you have no
Mike Smith: Your rights
Nathan Brady: rights.
Mike Smith: are out the window. Yeah,
Nathan Brady: You're
00:45:15
Mike Smith: exactly.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, they're out the window. And I'm really impressed that he still uh is doing these interviews. He's speaking out. He's back at at rallies. He's back fighting. Um happy that he's gotten to see his child. Uh I'm I'm thrilled that the judge in the case uh that released him did not even impose uh there was no bond payment requirement. There was no electronic monitoring um requirement. I think that that was obviously the right thing to do and probably part of the reason why you're not hearing about it too much from the right. It's like, all right, let's just let this one kind of kind of slide. Um, but
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: I think
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: it's
Mike Smith: mean, they're you're not hearing it so much from the right because it was such a disaster for them. I
Nathan Brady: sure.
Mike Smith: mean,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: you know, and and and I think that even like AOC during one of the most recent hearings was just railing about it and and the point's quite clear.
00:46:12
Mike Smith: The man's here legally and you put him you you detained him in I uh in an ICE detention center because you didn't like what he had to say. And the right will be quick to point out like, well, we we revoked his visa. And I say, yes, after you detained him, you revoked his visa. He was here legally. did nothing wrong and then
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: you detained him.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: So, I mean, if if that's true, then I don't I don't see there being much of a step from I was detained by ICE, they revoked my citizenship, and now I'm I'm here illegally, so they're going to put me in El Salvador or wherever.
Nathan Brady: So
Mike Smith: So,
Nathan Brady: they
Mike Smith: like,
Nathan Brady: are of obviously they're pursuing they're still pursuing his deportation but
Mike Smith: of
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: course,
Nathan Brady: want
Mike Smith: because they revoked his visa, which is their, you know, it's
Nathan Brady: right
Mike Smith: their prerogative. If they're like, "We don't want him in the country anymore. He's
00:47:01
Mike Smith: not a citizen. He should go back where he came from." Fine. There's a process for that. But it doesn't involve putting him in a prison cell to do so.
Nathan Brady: um I want to point out though that the the hopeful thing here, as disgusting as this whole situation is, is the government came after Khalil in hopes of uh squashing that disscent that was rising up,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: that pro Palestinian activism, that anti-Israeli right-wing extremist corrupt government. Um, and what happened was they they thought they were doing that and 20 more people popped up and they tried to squash another one and then 80 people popped up and then and then looked what happened. So that's the one hopeful thing that I think we can take away. And this leads into another thing that we wanted to talk about anyway, which is the no the the no kings protests is that we we don't take s*** lying down, right? You don't Mike, if they came and arrested you for doing the blue sedition podcast, you know what I mean?
00:48:17
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I'm not going to stop podcasting, you
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: know? I'm gonna
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: be even louder, have more guests on, probably have a bigger reach. Um, all that's to say, please arrest Mike first and
Mike Smith: Hey.
Nathan Brady: I'll
Mike Smith: Hey, wait
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: a minute.
Nathan Brady: Jeez. All of the posts all of the posts that could could be arrested for, he's the one making them. Um,
Mike Smith: Oh no.
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: Probably though.
Nathan Brady: it's it's to say um in in America, I'm I'm hopeful that we just we we see something like that happen from this this authorit authoritarian uh lunatic and we don't back down. So that's the that's the hopeful thing that's
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: to come
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: out
Mike Smith: know. I
Nathan Brady: of this.
Mike Smith: mean, and and the no kings protests were so big. And I think that it really does go to show like Americans are standing up for Americans
00:49:07
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: and and our way of life and our rule of law and we're just we're fed the s*** of this whole thing. Like we're just going
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: to stand up and yell a little bit about it and let you know that that we're not on your side. And the people who fly, you know, in the wings and are just like, I don't really know and I always vote this way or whatever, they see these big things, whether they they get it through the news sources or literally out their windows or on their, you know, drives to work or whatever, and they say they they're forced to see it and go,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: "Wow, that's so many people. I wonder what that's about." And then they
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: they have
Nathan Brady: And
Mike Smith: to
Nathan Brady: it
Mike Smith: go and figure it out.
Nathan Brady: and I wouldn't say I mean I I kind of want to use the term radicalized, right? Because I remember in I want to say 2014 2015 I've always been somewhat of a left I mean not somewhat of a left.
00:49:58
Nathan Brady: I've always been on on the left,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: but I I don't think I was really moved until I started going to these protests um in Los Angeles in like
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: 2015, 2014, 2015. Um, and so this has what what this did all of all of these protests across the country in every major city, even small cities, my city had one, my
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: neighboring city had one.
Mike Smith: we
Nathan Brady: You
Mike Smith: had
Nathan Brady: couldn't drive between our our towns and cities without seeing them. And I live in a in a suburb with uh near an army base with a lot of um you know trucks with MAGA flags on
Mike Smith: he
Nathan Brady: them.
Mike Smith: lives in a
Nathan Brady: Let's
Mike Smith: very
Nathan Brady: say
Mike Smith: red area. It's
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: uh
Nathan Brady: live I live in a very red area of California and um I was shocked at the turnout that I was seeing. So this this means something and this is going to turn people
00:50:53
Mike Smith: yeah,
Nathan Brady: um
Mike Smith: it's
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: going to I mean then if nothing else it's going to uplift people who feel like you know like we're saying broken down a little bit. They they feel disappointed in the country and the way that the the rule of law is applying to people at the moment. So I'm I'm I'm glad to see it happen. And I was glad to see the big turnout that we got from it.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. And and on the flip side, uh the weird authoritarian orange turmeric uh terrorist president guy that we had that we have, he
Mike Smith: We
Nathan Brady: had
Mike Smith: had him,
Nathan Brady: like
Mike Smith: too.
Nathan Brady: uh we had him and we still do.
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: was kind of hoping we were past him. I thought it was
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: like a mono, like a oneandone type situation, but sadly
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Uh, I agree with you. I'm trying to pull up this one here.
00:51:41
Nathan Brady: So, in contrast, um,
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: his
Mike Smith: he
Nathan Brady: little
Mike Smith: had a Kings parade or
Nathan Brady: he had
Mike Smith: no
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: wait.
Nathan Brady: he had a Yeah, he
Mike Smith: Yes,
Nathan Brady: had
Mike Smith: Kings.
Nathan Brady: a I'm the he had a Yes kings parade. Um, which was also apparently his birthday. Um, and I don't Well, that now that I'll be honest. Okay, I gotta give him credit. This looks like the rally that my small town town had for
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: the for the no kings protest.
Mike Smith: This looks like
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: maybe 2,000 people, you know. Maybe
Nathan Brady: dude, this is
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: pa I mean this
Mike Smith: It's
Nathan Brady: is pathetic.
Mike Smith: not nothing, but you didn't fill it even out to the George Washington Monument. Come on.
Nathan Brady: This I mean it's it's embarrassing. Um it's weird. Frankly, this right here this this whole thing
00:52:27
Mike Smith: That's
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: weird.
Nathan Brady: just
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: weird, right? This is creepy and weird. This is some North Korean communist b******* here.
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: Uh, this is weird.
Mike Smith: I mean military parades are very strange to me there. I understand the nationalistic nature of of the right and I understand them wanting to celebrate the uh the armed forces, but like we
Nathan Brady: Okay,
Mike Smith: have plenty of days to celebrate the armed forces. We don't need the parade and
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: they
Nathan Brady: am
Mike Smith: don't need to be in a parade, frankly.
Nathan Brady: even though I don't believe in most of the things that our our current veterans fought for, you know, whether you're in the Iraq war or Afghanistan
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: or whatever,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I under first of all, I appreciate them and
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: understand
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: those types of parades. Okay, here's the veterans.
00:53:18
Nathan Brady: It's Veterans Day. It's a Veterans Day parade. That I understand and appreciate. Like, celebrate those people.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Putting your active military out in the streets with all the tanks and the the things and your leaders there and all of these weird political speeches. Dude, that's weird,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: Yeah. I just I don't understand the the wanting to do that. Um I don't know, man.
Nathan Brady: Boy, this
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: is f***.
Mike Smith: think parades
Nathan Brady: This is
Mike Smith: like that's depressing. Isn't that
Nathan Brady: This
Mike Smith: the most
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: depressing thing you've ever seen?
Nathan Brady: Oh my god. For those who are are just listening to the show, we've got the the like Boston Dynamics robot army dogs, you know, with US Army flags on their back with a soldier marching behind him. What a f****** hellscape. Oh my lord.
Mike Smith: It's it's it's just bizarre to me. I don't kind of get it.
00:54:15
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: Um Yeah. No. And I think and again I think that there there's obviously going to be a lot of people in in the armed services who are going to be very promilitary and pro- nationalist and they're going to naturally, you know, lean right and and be in Trump's orbit for that reason. But I know at least a few people my age, you know, my my demo who went into the army because they were going to get more options that way. They were going to have
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: their colleges paid
Nathan Brady: College
Mike Smith: for. They
Nathan Brady: paid
Mike Smith: were
Nathan Brady: for.
Mike Smith: going to have
Nathan Brady: Exactly.
Mike Smith: a lot of them
Nathan Brady: A job
Mike Smith: would would
Nathan Brady: when
Mike Smith: actually
Nathan Brady: they get
Mike Smith: have
Nathan Brady: out.
Mike Smith: skills and jobs that they would get out. Exactly.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Almost like uh like entering the trades and stuff. And and the the couple of people I talked to about it, they're like, "This is so weird. Why
00:55:00
Mike Smith: would you do this? I don't
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: care about this."
Nathan Brady: I my my grandfather, my my my last living grandfather, you know, fought in wars for the United States
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: and he is he is left-leaning. Um he doesn't like this. He doesn't understand it. I I I played with a couple I played poker with a couple of people that I was worried about their reaction to this and you know ICE and everything going on in LA and and two guys who were both in law enforcement and in uh the army but Marines both of them um to me said some surprising things like I I wasn't ready for um how disgusted they are by everything that's going on.
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: okay.
Nathan Brady: and so yeah, I'm I'm I want to say the tide is turning, but the tide turned to the point where we got here, and
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I I'd like this to be the end of it. Uh,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
00:55:58
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: No, I'm sure that I mean it has to leave sort of a a bad taste in your mouth if you're like, you know, army family, if you're army folk, like that's who you are. And they're like, you have to do this this army parade or, you know, military parade, whatever you call it.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: And they're like, oh, for us. And they're like, well, the president wants it. and
Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: it's
Nathan Brady: it's
Mike Smith: his
Nathan Brady: for
Mike Smith: birthday
Nathan Brady: him. It's his
Mike Smith: and
Nathan Brady: birthday.
Mike Smith: and you're
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: like
Nathan Brady: your birthday, too. It's the army's birthday, too. But it's his birthday kind
Mike Smith: you're like
Nathan Brady: of.
Mike Smith: the three star general going where did he fight it? Why does he get a parade?
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he had brain spurs or I mean bones.
Mike Smith: Brain spurs.
00:56:37
Mike Smith: Yeah, I like
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: Um, okay. So, so em personally cringe embarrassing moment for our country and the the the president of the United States in my opinion.
Mike Smith: Luckily,
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: it didn't look like many people are going to remember it anyway, so
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: whatever.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Uh, that takes us to the hour. I feel like we didn't cover half the things that we wanted
Mike Smith: There's
Nathan Brady: to talk about.
Mike Smith: there's just so much happening.
Nathan Brady: Um, I think we should do a live show on Thursday. Like just just talk about some
Mike Smith: Tomorrow
Nathan Brady: of the
Mike Smith: is
Nathan Brady: things that
Mike Smith: Thursday.
Nathan Brady: are going on. Huh?
Mike Smith: Tomorrow
Nathan Brady: What?
Mike Smith: is Thursday.
Nathan Brady: Oh, wait. We moved That's right. We moved the podcast to Maybe we can do a live show on th uh tomorrow. Maybe. Maybe we can't. We'll see.
00:57:25
Nathan Brady: We'll see what we can do. Um I forgot we moved the show to today because I wanted it I wanted it to be after the election. Yeah, that's why
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: we did
Mike Smith: Right. Right.
Nathan Brady: that's why we did it. Um but it worked out. It worked out well nonetheless.
Mike Smith: Yeah. First
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: election we had that we we weren't up going like, "Oh my god, how is this
Nathan Brady: at least
Mike Smith: gonna
Nathan Brady: first
Mike Smith: happen?
Nathan Brady: of all, I was starting to worry that we were cursed because we've been covering a lot of elections since the the podcast started and they have not been going well for us. So,
Mike Smith: That's true. That's
Nathan Brady: um,
Mike Smith: true.
Nathan Brady: yeah, thank thankful that this one did and look forward to the general u, gives us something to look forward to in November at least.
Mike Smith: We appreciate
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: we'll we should track what else is going on in November.
00:58:04
Nathan Brady: Um, because
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: there were some other primaries that came up um recently. I think u Virginia was one of them. And so we should maybe set up a little election tracker to see what we can follow. Um,
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: and I because I think um I'm not I'm not the vote blue no matter who blue wave type of rahrh guy, but I think that there is going to be a significant pendulum swing back in the other direction. Um if
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: if if
Mike Smith: have to imagine.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, if the Dems play their cards correctly.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: I think that the the
Nathan Brady: big,
Mike Smith: takeaway from this primary is that you can win, especially in local elections in this way with messaging to the people. Don't don't play the culture war. Don't buy in for any of the appealing to everyone nonsense. Just focus on issues and ignore the rest is noise and and
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: really just hammer those home and just talk about how weird the other f****** guy is.
00:59:00
Mike Smith: He's weird.
Nathan Brady: talk about the weird sex pests
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: that you're
Mike Smith: want to
Nathan Brady: running
Mike Smith: fix this
Nathan Brady: against.
Mike Smith: stuff. Why is this sex pest here? Can we get He's corrupt. Let's
Nathan Brady: And I
Mike Smith: just
Nathan Brady: will say that Mum Donnie did exactly that. I mean, that in the interviews that he said, you know me and you know that I kind of live for those cringe moments
Mike Smith: Yes, you do.
Nathan Brady: where where I I will look at at somebody in the eye and say the cringe thing and watch their face and and while other people are like, I live for it. But even when I saw some of the things that he was saying directly to Cuomo, I was like, "God damn." Like, I don't know if I have I would have the balls to do that on a national stage, but that's what you've got to do
Mike Smith: That's
Nathan Brady: to
Mike Smith: what
Nathan Brady: these
Mike Smith: we
00:59:40
Nathan Brady: guys.
Mike Smith: need.
Nathan Brady: So, awesome. Uh
Mike Smith: I love it.
Nathan Brady: I'm I'm really excited. So, anyway, uh that's that's it for our show today. Thank you everybody for for listening or for watching on YouTube. Um, if you're listening on um Apple Podcast or or um Spotify or wherever you get your podcast, please give us a five star review because it really helps bump us up a little bit. It's free to do, I think. I don't know if the capitalists are charging for that yet. I think it's also still free to subscribe on YouTube. Google's probably trying to find a way around that as well. But while it's still free, please give us that sub, ring the bell, add a comment if you hate us. Are are you a quomosexual? I want to know why. Uh,
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Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: even
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Mike Smith: talk about the
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Mike Smith: quosexuals. I forgot about that. Don't
Nathan Brady: Write
Mike Smith: forget
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Mike Smith: to
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Nathan Brady: comment. Don't forget to like. Um, and we'll see everybody next time.
Mike Smith: Thanks
Nathan Brady: Bye.
Mike Smith: everybody and cut.
Nathan Brady: Awesome show.
Mike Smith: Perfection
Nathan Brady: Perfection. High energy show.
Mike Smith: high
Nathan Brady: Was
Mike Smith: energy
Nathan Brady: worth
Mike Smith: show.
Nathan Brady: was worth the wait in my opinion.
Mike Smith: Was it worth the wait?
Nathan Brady: I think it
Mike Smith: I'm going to
Nathan Brady: was
Mike Smith: ship you. I'm going to shout at you from the other room while I get water.
Nathan Brady: all right.
Mike Smith: Still have my headphones and I can hear you.
Nathan Brady: Oh, but I can't hear you.
Mike Smith: What? What? You can't.
Nathan Brady: Oh, I can't. I can't. Yeah, that's true.
Mike Smith: You have the bandwidth to think about this poker app for a second.
Nathan Brady: I just kicked off a prod deploy which seems to have gone smoothly. So yeah, f*** it. Let's f*** around. Let's Oh, wait. Let me uh stop taking notes. I don't want this to be part of the show notes.