National Guard in LA, Musk's Meltdown, and Greta's Gaza Flotilla

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Mike Smith: Well, thank you, Gemini. Appreciate you.
Nathan Brady: I'm just gonna hit it. You ready to do this? We're
Mike Smith: I'm ready to hit it. I'm ready to hit it and quit it.
Nathan Brady: all right. Here we go. Hey everyone and welcome to another episode of the Blue Sedition podcast. We did it. We had a week off um because nothing happened last week. Um
Mike Smith: Nothing.
Nathan Brady: nothing nothing going on this week. Kind of
Mike Smith: Super
Nathan Brady: boring.
Mike Smith: quiet.
Nathan Brady: No news to talk about. Uh, and that's the show. Thanks everybody and we'll catch you next time. No,
Mike Smith: Appreciate
Nathan Brady: wait a minute.
Mike Smith: Sean. I was wait.
Nathan Brady: Wait, wait. I'm getting some breaking news. There's protests in California. Elon and Trump have broken up. Credit Thunberg has been kidnapped by uh Israeli forces. Okay, it sounds like we have a lot to talk about today.

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Mike Smith: Okay. You know what?
Nathan Brady: All right.
Mike Smith: Let's just stick around. You know, hang out. We'll talk.
Nathan Brady: Oh my
Mike Smith: Be fine.
Nathan Brady: lord. Okay, we got stuff to talk about. I think we should just go right into the what I think is the main story because um it's also happening close to to you and I Mike. Um it's the uh protests in LA. What's going
Mike Smith: Yes.
Nathan Brady: on? What's happening in LA right now?
Mike Smith: They're protesting ISIS's uh immediate uh jurisdiction. basically they're they're you know how we've been rec we've we've been talking about this on the podcast for the last several weeks but ISIS now taking more and more drastic steps in trying to uh detain and eventually deport um uh non-citizens from the United States and obviously lowhanging fruit Southern California has a lot of those and we as Californians don't take well to ICE telling us what we can and can't do in this state so
Nathan Brady: Yeah.

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Mike Smith: we're protesting ICE B in here uh because we don't believe that they should be an organization generally anyway.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. So, um, as you can see from the headline here that Los Angeles anti-ICE protests enter fourth night amid National Guard deployment, immigration enforcement actions. I mean, this started on Friday um after a number of ICE raids um in the LA area, which they targeted neighborhoods like West Lake, downtown um South LA um and I think they they targeted or arrested 44 um immigrants. Of course, this you know, I think I think there was one raid on like a Home Depot. Um this this obviously sparked outrage amongst the community because one thing the community um of LA does is when you target one of their own, they stand up for each other. Um
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: and so that's what's happening now. And of course Elon Musk uh I sorry I was thinking of the wrong president. Uh Donald Trump has sorry sorry uh Donald
Mike Smith: We'll
Nathan Brady: Trump
Mike Smith: get to

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Nathan Brady: immediately
Mike Smith: him. We'll get to him.
Nathan Brady: immediately wants to uh incit violence here additional violence.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: So he, you know, immediately deployed 2,000 2,000 National Guard troops, uh, and on Monday, yesterday, an additional 700 US Marines to LA for what amounts to a pretty small protest in a very, very, very small section of downtown Los Angeles.
Mike Smith: Yeah. And it if it really you know flies in the face of of conventional uh governance of the last hundred years where the national guard is generally deployed by the governor of the state as a request to the president and not sent in by the president. Bit of uh trivia. Nate, do you remember the last time that the president sent in the National Guard of his own accord without consulting with a governor?
Nathan Brady: Do I remember the last time? I'm going to say yes. I bet I do.
Mike Smith: I bet you do.
Nathan Brady: Um, well, well, I could be wrong. I don't know if we're thinking the same thing.

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Nathan Brady: Don't tell me. Don't
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: tell me.
Mike Smith: All right.
Nathan Brady: Was it Was it desegregation?
Mike Smith: It was It was related to that. Yeah. Are you surprised?
Nathan Brady: Was it? Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm not surprised. Um, I was thinking like, did a did a president did did a president send in a national guard on January 7th? The uh January 6. January 6th. Was it the the attacks on the Capitol building? He sent Trump sent in the National Guard for that, I assume.
Mike Smith: I mean, I don't recall him doing that. I remember uh the mayor of DC requesting it of him and basically getting
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: ghosted.
Nathan Brady: Okay. So, no, that didn't happen. No. Okay. So, um I do remember I do remember I mean I wasn't there for it, but I believe that the National Guard, the governor called in the National Guard in uh Little Rock, Arkansas
Mike Smith: That's

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Nathan Brady: to
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: to uh to to stop desegregation. But then, but then um the president at the time, who was president at the time,
Mike Smith: Um, what I have in my notes here is Johnson.
Nathan Brady: okay, uh sent in federal troops and and took
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: over the National Guard um to stop the National Guard from stopping desegregation. Am I getting that right?
Mike Smith: I think you're mixing a few different things, but but yeah, that's generally the the two incidents that I was aware of. So
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: you have
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: Little
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: Rock and you have and you have Selma.
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: Um,
Nathan Brady: no, no. I'm just I'm just talking about Little Rock. I I believe I mean, again, this has been a while. I haven't read up on this recently, but I I believe that what happened was that the governor of Arkansas was trying to use the National Guard to stop the the desegregation of schools because he was against desegregation.

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Nathan Brady: And
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: then Johnson, um I don't was that who it was? Uh well, either way, the president at the time um took over the National Guard to stop them from stopping desegregation of of of schools in Little Rock. But anyway,
Mike Smith: That sounds right. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: but anyway,
Mike Smith: Anyway,
Nathan Brady: we
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: we
Mike Smith: point was
Nathan Brady: digress,
Mike Smith: we have a long history of deferring to using uh deferring to the governor in requesting
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: for National Guard. And so this just flies in the face of that. I was just trying
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: to point
Nathan Brady: it's
Mike Smith: that out that
Nathan Brady: it's not even a history. It's um it's potentially illegal for the the president of the United States to usurp the governors of those states to use their national guard. Um
Mike Smith: I admit I don't know enough about the National Guard and their deployment processes,
Nathan Brady: okay.
Mike Smith: but I thought that they were under the executive and that that generally the governor asks the president for permission to deploy.

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Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: It doesn't really matter since neither of those scenarios came out and it's just the president enacted them and thought we didn't have enough of these these guys. Let's send in the military now.
Nathan Brady: yeah. Yeah. Um the the president does have legal authority to federalize and deploy a state's national guard because remember this is a the state's national guard without the without the uh governor's approval but only under very specific and rare circumstances.
Mike Smith: Interesting.
Nathan Brady: Um and
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: and and so what he's doing right now technically required congressional approval. So, um,
Mike Smith: So that's why he's being sued by the state
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: of
Nathan Brady: that's
Mike Smith: California.
Nathan Brady: why he's being sued by Nuome and Attorney General Bont. They're arguing
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: that the president's recent deployment of the National Guard to LA violates both state sovereignty and federal law and that there is no invasion or rebellion. Um, which would be the rare circumstances to justify
Mike Smith: Wow.

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Nathan Brady: what Trump did.
Mike Smith: I wonder what all those states right guys are going to say to that when we tell them like Trump's violating California's states rights. You you like states rights, right? You guys are really big into states rights out there in the Midwest. Like you're on our side on this, right?
Nathan Brady: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. So, Oh, yeah. Okay. So, I see it here as I just researched that the last time a president bypassed a governor to deploy the National Guard was in 1965 when President John Johnson sent troops to Alabama to
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: protect civil rights marchers under the Insurrection Act. Do you remember um there used to be a country that was all about freedom? Uh right to protest, first amendment
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: rights. I
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: don't know it I don't know which country that is.
Mike Smith: it's
Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: Canada.
Nathan Brady: it's Canada because that sounds nice.
Mike Smith: That

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Nathan Brady: Doesn't
Mike Smith: sounds
Nathan Brady: that
Mike Smith: nice.
Nathan Brady: sound like a nice place? We don't have that here.
Mike Smith: We don't We
Nathan Brady: uh
Mike Smith: We gave that up for a god king, I guess. I'm
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: not
Nathan Brady: god
Mike Smith: sure.
Nathan Brady: king. But your egg prices, are they lower?
Mike Smith: They're a very specific type of low in that they cost less than my car. You're
Nathan Brady: Oh.
Mike Smith: relatively low.
Nathan Brady: Uh so the the California lawsuit uh contends that the situation in Los Angeles did not rise to the level required for federal inter intervention and that the president's actions uh were both unprecedented and unlawful. Um I
Mike Smith: What?
Nathan Brady: mean that sounds like basically everything the president does, right?
Mike Smith: Yeah. But
Nathan Brady: Unprecedented
Mike Smith: I wanted to ask
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: too
Nathan Brady: unlawful,
Mike Smith: because you said that it would require congressional approval. So even if it rose to meet those those demands,

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Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: did Congress vote on this?
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: is
Nathan Brady: no.
Mike Smith: that was so slam dunk.
Nathan Brady: Uh, it would seem like a slam dunk. Now, a slam dunk
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: from from who? There the the the
Mike Smith: It'll be
Nathan Brady: uh
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: Newsome,
Mike Smith: judiciary obviously
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: because
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: it'll
Nathan Brady: Newsome
Mike Smith: be
Nathan Brady: files the emergency motion to stop Trump's use of National Guard and Marines in LA. Don't know where that is as I understand it right now. Um, nothing has happened on that. Um and this is these are live updates here and eight minutes ago California governor asked court to block Trump administration from using um troops in immigration rates. So we'll see we'll see what happens here. I mean the the pictures coming out of LA and again I mean I think it's really important to know I wish I had the map. I had a map um recently and I should have saved it for the pod.

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Nathan Brady: Um, but there's a map showing basically all of LA and then very specifically where these protests are happening and
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: it's really
Mike Smith: as I recall, we're going to give away my my Californianness here, but my understanding
Nathan Brady: okay.
Mike Smith: is that it's on a small section of the 101 freeway, right? So, it's
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: on
Nathan Brady: it's
Mike Smith: Santa. It's like,
Nathan Brady: it's
Mike Smith: is
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: it in Hollywood? Where where is this? It's like North Hollywood.
Nathan Brady: it's it's a very very small section. And that's not that's I'm I'm not downplaying the the protests themselves.
Mike Smith: No.
Nathan Brady: I think the people out there who are standing up um for for their neighbors and they're standing up for um the right to due process are brave and and I'm proud of them. But
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I'm I'm calling out like the Christy Gnomes uh and the Jim Jordans who are saying that uh LA is full of criminals.

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Nathan Brady: It's lawless. It's burning to the ground right now. The one thing to note is anytime and I and I called out a uh Trumpup supporting acquaintance of mine and basically asked them the same thing, you know, because of course January 6th was um federal agents, right?
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: that wasn't a real protest. But let's just pretend let's just pretend for a second that it was a real protest and that there actually were people that were there um quote unquote peacefully protesting because there were there were people there I'm peacefully protesting this transition of power because they believed that um the election was stolen. Now
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: there were other people who were opportunists and violent who um those those select group of people even though it was there was a lot of them uh made it work made it worse for everyone. So here in Los Angeles, the same thing is happening. Especially in Los Angeles, anytime that there's a protest, anytime that there's any type of civil unrest
Mike Smith: Of
Nathan Brady: in these big cities, you're going to have these opportunists, these antagonizers who

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Mike Smith: course.
Nathan Brady: are going to start looting. That does not discount the entirety of the protest. And so if you're going to come at
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: us with that, you're just going to get that you're gone. I'm not going to have an argument or discussion with you.
Mike Smith: Yeah. No, it it's it's a silly argument to make. Uh,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: I remember
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: thinking
Nathan Brady: a strong,
Mike Smith: back to the the uh protests surrounding the um murder of George Floyd
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: and there were similar protests in Los Angeles at the time as well. And I remember vividly of people being upset because somebody had had like started a fire next to a city bank and they were like, "Oh, they're you remember they deployed all the cops and stuff around this city bank to like protect it like it was Fort Knox." We're just like, "If this building comes down, nobody cares. None of the actual people who live here care.

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Mike Smith: Even the people who work there don't care. Just let's
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: stop pretending
Nathan Brady: remember
Mike Smith: that this is like the Blitz Creek or something. This is just such a non-issue. And if you look at the photos from this thing, there's like eight cars on fire
Nathan Brady: right
Mike Smith: and
Nathan Brady: now
Mike Smith: they're probably bare cars.
Nathan Brady: now I remember the um the Rodney King riots, you
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: know,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um and I remember that there were legitimate um you know there were people there were citizens on top of their businesses, you know, with with weapons trying
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: to defend their businesses from looters. Um, this is not what's happening here.
Mike Smith: No.
Nathan Brady: And and and even even still, again, those people should be should, you know, they they deserve their due process, but if people are caught looting, that's a separate thing and that needs to be taken care of. Okay?
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: But the the the majority of the people are out here protesting and they're getting shot at.

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Nathan Brady: They're getting flashbanged from the police. They're getting hit with rubber bullets. Did you see the um did you see the video of the
Mike Smith: You have a
Nathan Brady: Australian
Mike Smith: woman.
Nathan Brady: uh
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: reporter that got hit with the rubber bullet and I mean they literally fired right at her. It was a it
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: was just like a group of reporters
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: reporting and they fired right at her.
Mike Smith: Yeah. I think I think it's important to remember because they Sort of weirdly in my view, none of the news agencies have run and pivoted this story from there are protests to now there are riots. They did that during the George Floyd protests. I remember the headlines changing from Los Angeles protests to Los Angeles riots and obviously Minnesota and other states as well, but
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: that tone changed and
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: it was being framed as if the protesters were the agitators. And I guess I'm just surprised they haven't done that yet.

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Mike Smith: But in all honesty, you know, you know what you and I believe, which is that the protests are always peaceful until the riers show up wearing police uniforms.
Nathan Brady: right to the right. Um, and I want to call out specifically, you know, you talked about that change in uh the in the narrative. I think a big reason for that is of course the the national news media and I want to play this clip for
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: you. I don't I don't know if you've seen this yet, but I want to play this for you. This is a
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: CNN reporter live on CNN last night at 7:30 describing the scene and what's going on.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: These that I'm sorry I'm just trying to do this and keep the microphone up before it gets really loud and they start firing again. These are what people in the crowd have been firing at the ground. Those caused some of the explosives like a foam thing. You can smell the explosive on it that causes the police to immediately respond.

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Nathan Brady's Presentation: what charge and we've seen a lot of people fall. We we actually our shot was down for a couple minutes here because we were running a little bit out of breath. Um just because you have to get away from them. They just
Nathan Brady: So, so
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: this reporter, for those that are only listening, is holding
Mike Smith: So,
Nathan Brady: up one of those flashbang devices that that are the police are using and she is saying that the protesters are throwing them at the police
Mike Smith: yeah. Throwing them for one.
Nathan Brady: throwing
Mike Smith: These
Nathan Brady: them
Mike Smith: these are these are munitions that are being fired out of guns by the police officers. These are not
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: uh
Nathan Brady: she's
Mike Smith: you
Nathan Brady: saying
Mike Smith: throwing them
Nathan Brady: and she's you can see her you can see the police behind her she's kind of embedded with the officers and she
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: is saying this is CNN okay that is saying that protesters are shooting things at at the police.

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Mike Smith: So, I don't know if you you saw this, but but you shared this with us, uh, or somebody did. I'm not quite sure who. Um, but if you scroll down a little bit, there's another post in this thread called Aaron's latest post right there. Most recent post on Blue Sky. Scroll down a little more and just let that one play out for you.
Nathan Brady: Okay. Oh, wait a minute.
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: Wait a minute.
Mike Smith: hold up here.
Nathan Brady: Holy
Mike Smith: Why do
Nathan Brady: c.
Mike Smith: those
Nathan Brady: Wait.
Mike Smith: look so familiar?
Nathan Brady: So, for those again that can't see, that are only listening on the pod, there's another um video u just below this post where it zooms in on a police officer in his full riot gear. Um although most of his large chin is exposed. That that uh helmet's not
Mike Smith: He is
Nathan Brady: doing a
Mike Smith: He
Nathan Brady: great job.
Mike Smith: is a specimen, isn't he?
Nathan Brady: Wow.

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Nathan Brady: America's finest right there, folks. He is holding one of these flashbang, you know, uh
Mike Smith: No. No.
Nathan Brady: firing
Mike Smith: He's he's got he's got the canister
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: launcher and it's
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: got three shells on the butt of it. He's just holding it uh finger off the the trigger, but I mean those shells that she just claimed the protesters were firing
Nathan Brady: They're
Mike Smith: are
Nathan Brady: right
Mike Smith: are
Nathan Brady: there.
Mike Smith: strapped to the butt of his gun.
Nathan Brady: They're literally right
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: there.
Mike Smith: my god,
Nathan Brady: And he's
Mike Smith: these
Nathan Brady: getting overtime.
Mike Smith: people are h
Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: how how do these
Nathan Brady: he's
Mike Smith: CNN
Nathan Brady: getting overtime
Mike Smith: reporter
Nathan Brady: pay for
Mike Smith: I mean,
Nathan Brady: this.
Mike Smith: they have to be doing it on purpose, right? There's no way she
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: could fall for such an obvious grip from a police officer.

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Nathan Brady: so yeah, I mean Erin Bernett is um a welleducated, experienced journalist. Um there is literally no way that she doesn't know what she's doing and what she's talking about here.
Mike Smith: So, she's playing for the enemy is what I'm hearing. She's she's trying to to uh you know, whitewash the police's narrative and have it so that there's a riot of in you know, in its infancy here. Is that what
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: is that what we're claiming? Because it's what
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: it sounds
Nathan Brady: mean
Mike Smith: like.
Nathan Brady: I I I I So
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: So when
Mike Smith: would love
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: to
Nathan Brady: talk about
Mike Smith: I would love to get a comment from her. I would be like, can you can you reconcile your statement on these these things and then this very obvious picture of a police officer having those munitions strapped to their launcher?
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: What what now I have heard and and you know maybe she's confused.

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Mike Smith: She's clearly she she's mentions that she's out of breath and they've been running and being a reporter is a scary job, especially in tense situations like this. I get it. I have heard of during protests like this that there will be instigators who will like throw out M80s and things to just try and make something happen. You know, the the poking this thing with the stick, hey, do something. Those sorts of agitators do exist. I'm not saying which side they're playing for or if they're playing for a side, but they're very often just looking to stir up trouble and that could have happened. You know, somebody throws out an MAD and it makes a big bang noise and she picks one of those up off the ground thinking that that was fired by a protester.
Nathan Brady: No, don't you
Mike Smith: Don't
Nathan Brady: stop.
Mike Smith: know.
Nathan Brady: Just stop. You're get Yeah, you're giving her
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: too
Mike Smith: going
Nathan Brady: much
Mike Smith: to
Nathan Brady: credit.
Mike Smith: stop.

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Nathan Brady: Yeah, just just no. No. um these people know what they're doing and uh and and again this is your you know liberal source for news these days and as
Mike Smith: CNN.
Nathan Brady: we CNN and as we know it's just it's it's not that I mean every every major news network has acquiesced to this authoritarian regime
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um they're not talking about the things that matter they're you know the police are not out here protecting its citizens they are um arguably Yeah, I I think uh LA Mayor Karen Bass has said that there is no coordination between the LAPD and the National Guard. That does not seem to be the case from people on the ground. There does seem to be coordination and communication between the two outfits and the LAPD does not seem to be doing um uh what it can to protect the citizens and the peaceful protesters on the ground.
Mike Smith: No. And I mean that's part of the problem. And this is the reason that the Trump admin and authoritarians in general don't like protesting because the police can't help.

00:21:18

Mike Smith: That's not what the the the purpose of the protest is. They want their voices to be heard and they want to disrupt society in a peaceful manner for a short period of time. And what are the police supposed to do? They're not going to like block off the street for you. They're not going to be like, "Nobody can go to work because you're already doing that." You know what I mean? So like the police have no real purpose here and all they do is get agitated by protesters rightfully shouting, you know, things at them. But the best case scenario would be just for the police to leave and let it burn out on its own. We talked about this during the um the Colombia protests over the Israeli genocide in uh Gaza. And we said the same thing. It was like the easiest way for these for these protests to die is to let them fizzle. Just don't do anything and they'll they'll end because the end of school was a week away or whatever.

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Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: Kids are
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: going to go home.
Nathan Brady: it this is what we said kind of towards the beginning of the pod. I mean, it it felt like when Trump called in the National Guard, he was doing it purely to instigate. I
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: mean, he wants to We haven't even
Mike Smith: Once
Nathan Brady: talked about the fact that he called
Mike Smith: we
Nathan Brady: for
Mike Smith: haven't
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: talked
Nathan Brady: arrest
Mike Smith: about
Nathan Brady: of
Mike Smith: Newsome yet.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: of
Mike Smith: god.
Nathan Brady: of Gavin Newsome. I mean, he wants to escalate it to the point where he can he can blame uh Karen Bass. He can blame Gavin Newsome. He can send in more troops. He can he can rile more people up. He can get his supporters involved. He it escalates into more violence. You know, somebody somebody said to me, "Oh, so much for a peaceful protest."

00:22:54

Nathan Brady: Huh? It was first of all, there's no such thing as a peaceful protest. If it if protests were peaceful, the protests wouldn't do anything. Okay. The like you said, the the the point of a quote unquote peaceful protest is some level of disruption. You're
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: not going to get
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: that level of disruption without carrying some of the uh lutters, vandalizers, arsonists, you know, those type of people who don't you don't necessarily
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: want with you. You
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: remember the clip of um Adwali uh I'm forgetting I'm forgetting how to pronounce his name. He was walking out of Colombia and he was saying, you know, my my Jewish brothers and my Palestinian brothers, we are working on finding peace. And then somebody like walked right behind him, like right down next to him, and he was like, "Death to all Jews." And he was like, "No, no, that's not that's not what we want." You
Mike Smith: Right.

00:23:49

Nathan Brady: know, that's
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: these people, this these one in a hundred or, you know, one in whatever it is. They're causing this type of disruption. And Trump is one of those people.
Mike Smith: Right. Right.
Nathan Brady: You know, he's an antagonizer, an instigator, and he wants this to get violent.
Mike Smith: Well, and to anyone who makes that argument, I I can't like it's an easy argument to understand where you're like, I see these outliers, let's say, who are acting in a way that is counter to the idea of a peaceful protest and then painting that against the entire movement. I say the same things to I go, "Well, that's that's why I don't, you know, ascribe to a religion like Christianity, and I don't believe in backing the blue or any of those other things because I've seen their outliers, and they are worse by far. So, if we're going to be doing this, let's at least, you know, acknowledge that every group, no matter how good, has some bad in it,
Nathan Brady: Right.

00:24:47

Nathan Brady: And and I mean and and maybe not even part of those groups, especially in the case of
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: the protesters. Again, we're talking about, you know, a very large populated area where people can just come out of their house and be like, "Oh, I don't know what's going on. I don't care about immigration raids, but I'm ready to cause some havoc. I'm ready to
Mike Smith: What?
Nathan Brady: set this Whimo autonomous vehicle on fire, baby.
Mike Smith: Look, I'm not even protesting, but I'm going to set some Whimos on fire. I just think
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: it's funny.
Nathan Brady: okay. So,
Mike Smith: The other thing,
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: and and you make a good point. I want to bring it back to the Colombia thing because it's similar situation, right? It's the end of the school year. You have a lot of teenagers coming, you know, at in in end of high school years, college years, etc. who are suddenly finding themselves with a der of time.

00:25:29

Mike Smith: What are they going to do? And the most politically charged thing that's happening is happening, you know, next door perhaps or down the street at the the at the Home Depot like you said. And this is your community. You have free time now. Go out and protest.
Nathan Brady: Right. Right. So, um I I don't want we're talking so much about the violence and about everything that's going around and we're we're we're we want to make sure that it doesn't take away from the main point, the main reason for these protests, right, which is
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: these unlawful, unconstitutional um ICE immigration rates.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Um so so the the the protests have have spread um across you know now now we're now things are popping up in Chicago things are popping up in New York, Dallas, Atlanta. Um this is this is likely to continue. Um
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: and and
Mike Smith: Like
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: I said, it's the summer's starting.

00:26:34

Mike Smith: There's going to be a lot of of, you know, young 20somes and and 18 year olds and things like that that have a huge amount of free time and want to stand for something and this is something that they believe in.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: So do I. I mean,
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Of of course. Um, you know, I made a post that went, you know, a little blue ski viral yesterday that, you know, I can't believe that the president of the United States is, um, you know, calling for troops to attack its own citizens. Um, and meanwhile, we're all going into work on Monday morning. But
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: we we don't have a choice, you know. I mean, this is the way the system is designed.
Mike Smith: Right. And
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: until until some drastic systemic changes are made, then yeah, you don't have that that luxury in a lot of cases.
Nathan Brady: so I have a lot of respect for the people that are um they're risking they're risking a lot to go out there.

00:27:28

Nathan Brady: I mean, some are being arrested. I mean, I think there's already been at last count 113 arrests. Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I don't know if these are looters. I don't know if these are peaceful protesters. Certainly, every time there is a protest like this, we see people uh being um harassed and beaten by
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: police when it looked like like I I don't know if you saw the video recently with the man that was in the backpack that that ended up being surrounded by uh the police on horseback that
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: started
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: kicking
Mike Smith: didn't see
Nathan Brady: him
Mike Smith: that
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: one.
Nathan Brady: beating him. I mean, he was just it looked like he wasn't doing anything and he was certainly down and not resisting anything. Um, and then police just on their horseback circling around him, beating him with a baton, kicking him. Um, so again, I have a lot of respect for people that are out there, the demonstrators that are um doing the right thing, that are exercising their First Amendment right, their right to protest.

00:28:25

Nathan Brady: Um, keep doing what you're doing and I'm I'm proud of you for for not backing down. Um especially in the face of now 2,000 2,000 National Guards and uh 700 Marines. Um I don't know when this will end. We we're going to stay up to date with uh Newsome's lawsuit. I want to talk I want to talk a little bit about Nuome
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um because he's he's he's he's done and said some things good uh during this it but it certainly doesn't take away from uh everything else that he has he has done this stupid podcast that he's running um the
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: the So this is great right so we're on we're on day four day five of this protest Right. Day four and um Dr. Phil was in
Mike Smith: Doctor.
Nathan Brady: the in in a ride along with immigration with ICE during these the raid in LA. And now today, I believe it's today, Dr. Phil uh Dr. Phil is going to be on Gavin Newsome's podcast. So, I mean, what the what are you doing, man?

00:29:44

Mike Smith: He's
Nathan Brady: What are
Mike Smith: positioning
Nathan Brady: you doing?
Mike Smith: himself to make as much noise as he can. I I'm I'm sort of convinced now that he's going to throw his hat into the ring to run in 28
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: for
Nathan Brady: of course
Mike Smith: presidency
Nathan Brady: he is. Of
Mike Smith: and
Nathan Brady: course he is.
Mike Smith: he wants to keep it, you know, and his mindset that he is the antithesis to the Trump uh policies and and and administration goals. So, it's definitely a way to play it. But on the other hand, why in your podcast do you have Stephen Miller and you know
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Steve
Mike Smith: who's
Nathan Brady: Bannon and and and
Mike Smith: Steve Bannon and
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it
Mike Smith: being
Nathan Brady: doesn't
Mike Smith: like
Nathan Brady: make
Mike Smith: doing
Nathan Brady: sense.
Mike Smith: the Joe Rogan thing of being like hm that's an interesting point maybe
Nathan Brady: No,

00:30:24

Mike Smith: all races aren't equal and then just like moving along,
Nathan Brady: right. Right. No, no, no backing, you know, no factchecking or anything like that. Just a
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: just a way to give a another uh Nazi a platform. So,
Mike Smith: pretty much.
Nathan Brady: uh, Newsome, stop. Stop.
Mike Smith: Please stop. Please stop.
Nathan Brady: Um, and here it is right here. Trump suggests he's open to in invoking the Insurrection Act to quell protest and the like. But my question is, well, what difference does it make? You're already you're already um sending in the National Guard and the Marines, which is you needed to do this first technically in order to do that. Um, so what difference is this going to make?
Mike Smith: I don't know. But here's something
Nathan Brady: Mhm.
Mike Smith: interesting that I I I looked up really quick. I was looking at the chain of command for the National Guard and outside of uh them being federalized under something like the the Insurrection Act, you know, and approved by Congress, their direct and ultimate line of of uh uh sorry, chain of command ends with the governor.

00:31:27

Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: So if the governor's lawsuits lawsuit invoke like becomes uh like goes to court and they invoke like a stay for example or an e or or an emergency uh restraining order ero the governor can send him home he's he's in command
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: he
Nathan Brady: mean, why
Mike Smith: go
Nathan Brady: can't
Mike Smith: down there
Nathan Brady: he
Mike Smith: and be
Nathan Brady: now?
Mike Smith: like go home get out go away
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: the military
Nathan Brady: so,
Mike Smith: will stay but the national guard they can just
Nathan Brady: right,
Mike Smith: get
Nathan Brady: the Marines
Mike Smith: undeployed
Nathan Brady: will stay and we'll have to take care of that. But but you but to your to your point right now, um Trump deployed the National Guard going over Gavin Newsome's head, but Gavin Newsome is still technically the commanding
Mike Smith: Yeah, he's the
Nathan Brady: uh
Mike Smith: commanding officer.
Nathan Brady: so can't he just say, "Okay, uh beat it or or go here or you know, whatever."
Mike Smith: Yeah.

00:32:15

Mike Smith: Yeah. Go to Fresno.
Nathan Brady: And and then
Mike Smith: Just
Nathan Brady: and then
Mike Smith: chill
Nathan Brady: say
Mike Smith: out
Nathan Brady: they're
Mike Smith: there
Nathan Brady: not
Mike Smith: for a
Nathan Brady: following.
Mike Smith: while.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. I mean, I don't know. So, um we we'll see how the lawsuit plays out and um we'll see how tonight goes. Um I know pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe pe peaceful immigr you you look you can see this peaceful protests outside of Seattle immigration um
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: all all
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: over the US right now. Um no kings rallies are planned on Saturday. Oh, right. That's that Trump's military parade is this weekend, too. What great timing. Just what great timing. We're just deploying uh National Guard all in in in all of these cities. And now Trump is going to have a big military parade.

00:32:56

Nathan Brady: Man, North Korea is a hell of a place to live. It's
Mike Smith: something
Nathan Brady: wild
Mike Smith: else.
Nathan Brady: right now.
Mike Smith: It is something else.
Nathan Brady: Okay. Um we're going to move on because we have some other things or other things to talk about. Did you want to talk about this uh the pro paid protesters real quick before we move on
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: from
Mike Smith: that's
Nathan Brady: this?
Mike Smith: okay. We can move on. it.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: There have been a lot of right-wing cracks who are like, "Oh, these are all paid pro, you know, Elon Musk types who are like, this is a pray paid protesting thing and they're here to instigate and they're not real people and none of it's true. It's all just garbage."
Nathan Brady: Right. Um well, since you said his since you invoked his name, um said it
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: we said
Mike Smith: it's
Nathan Brady: it
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: through

00:33:31

Mike Smith: third time. And so he hears
Nathan Brady: we said it for the third time on the pod. Yeah, that means that we do have to to
Mike Smith: you
Nathan Brady: discuss.
Mike Smith: have to cover him. No.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, we have to we have to talk about him now. Um I unless you're living under a rock, you uh you know that Trump and Musk had a huge falling out uh last week that I I think it was mostly going under the radar until until Elon Musk tweeted that um the reason why Donald Trump does not want to release the Epstein files is because he's absolutely in them. um which was first of all something that we all knew at least
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: something that that all of us who aren't Trump cultists knew. Uh but then the fact that Elon who was supposed to be this major Trump supporter he said he did he he didn't what was the thing that he tweeted one time he did couldn't love another man more than he loved Donald Trump.

00:34:34

Nathan Brady: Um, and and for him to say this where now there was this huge coalition of both Elon Musk and Trump supporters that have come together, these little crypto bros, you know, sitting in their basement trying to to find Bitcoin online or something.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um, so this this sent everyone into a uh a panic on the on on the MAGA side, worrying that like what are you doing? this is going to destroy our chances in the midterms. Oh, you know, and then being mad at one side or the other. So, it's created this rift in this really stupid base of people.
Mike Smith: Well, it's
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: it's really interesting because as far as I was able to follow it, it seemed like Elon's biggest complaint was about the big beautiful bill. He
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: was like, "The big beautiful bill is full of uh what what do they call it? Pork." you know, it's like pork
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: barrel subsidies and things for the
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: like you're just spending a ton of money for the sake of spending it.

00:35:37

Mike Smith: It doesn't
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: actually go to programs that are necessary. It had giant EV cuts, which is of course the lifeblood of Tesla at the moment since they're bleeding sales like crazy. The only thing keeping them afloat is those those EV incentives. And it was like a lot of financial and political things in the bill that that really pointed at Elon like and Elon's fighting back like this is the worst bill that's ever been. And I agree it's a terrible bill and it does all the things that Elon's complaining about. It it balloons the deficit which he specifically claimed he was there to reduce. He's like I'm going to cut and cut and cut with Doge and we're going to reduce the deficit and get back to blah blah blah. They're like, "Big, beautiful bill adds $2 trillion to the deficit."
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: And he said it. He's like, "What are you doing? You brought me here to do this.
Nathan Brady: I mean, oh, god damn it, New York Times.

00:36:29

Nathan Brady: I don't
Mike Smith: Reader view. Hit the reader
Nathan Brady: No.
Mike Smith: view."
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: okay. Can we do reader view? How do you even do reader view?
Mike Smith: Uh, there's usually a button. Sorry, I'm not going to help you. I don't know how to use Chrome.
Nathan Brady: I don't know how to do reader view.
Mike Smith: Darn.
Nathan Brady: Um, well, it well it
Mike Smith: Find
Nathan Brady: doesn't
Mike Smith: a
Nathan Brady: matter.
Mike Smith: different source.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, let's find a better source. Stupid pay for uh Well, that's not going to be better. WOA's gonna make me pay for things. Let's see if the Business Insider will Okay. Um I was I was hoping to see Here we go. Here we go. Here's here's like a
Mike Smith: Wise
Nathan Brady: a timeline
Mike Smith: words.
Nathan Brady: of of of madness. So, um wise words, Elon Musk quote tweets something that Donald Trump said a couple years ago, um which is, I can't believe Republicans are extending the debt ceiling.

00:37:26

Nathan Brady: I am a Republican and I am embarrassed. I think this was like 10 years ago that he posted this, right? And so he he so Elon saying wise words now um pointing out that well you're still a Republican and look what you're doing. You're you're going to extend the debt ceiling. Um and he kept doing this. He kept quote tweeting things that Donald Trump said several years ago um about a balanced budget, about you know this this excessive spending. Um, and then people and so then I think Trump or somebody said the reason the real reason why Elon is upset is because of the EV cuts. And Elon's like first of all, and I believe this um why would Elon give a s*** about the the EV stuff. He's making billions of dollars um in government contracts and taking over the federal government right now. He doesn't give a s*** about this little tiny EV stuff that's in this build. I don't think so. I I really really don't think so.

00:38:27

Nathan Brady: You're making a face. Highly doubt it. It
Mike Smith: You
Nathan Brady: It
Mike Smith: get an EV tax credit when you bought your Tesla. That was part of the incentive package. I know it was. So,
Nathan Brady: First of all, nobody's nobody's buying Teslas anymore. It's not even
Mike Smith: well,
Nathan Brady: gonna matter.
Mike Smith: you think they're going to buy him after they cut that incentive out? I
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: mean, you
Nathan Brady: if you
Mike Smith: you
Nathan Brady: were
Mike Smith: know
Nathan Brady: if
Mike Smith: that
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: affects
Nathan Brady: were
Mike Smith: the bottom
Nathan Brady: if
Mike Smith: dollar and it's going
Nathan Brady: if
Mike Smith: to piss
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: him
Nathan Brady: were
Mike Smith: off.
Nathan Brady: going to dude it's it's it's millions of dollars to Elon if that it literally and and for most people who were going to buy a Tesla no the EV tax credit didn't mean anything to them when I bought my Tesla before

00:39:01

Mike Smith: All right.
Nathan Brady: Elon went nuts there EV tax credit didn't mean anything to me I still wanted
Mike Smith: All right.
Nathan Brady: to buy the car right
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: so to me this means nothing um now I'm not defending Elon I don't care what he says about it or not. I'm just saying that I don't I don't think that this was the the big reason because Elon was against the tariffs probably because it hurt Tesla and and his other companies. Um
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: but but at the very least he's staying true to his political ideological beliefs. I don't agree with them, but arguing against bloated spending, you know, arguing that the cut should be coming from all of these other places that that essentially would also help Elon's businesses as well. I mean, the whole point of this bill, remember this bloated bill, the reason why it's so bloated is because we're doing what? We're paying for extended tax cuts for billionaires. Who does that mostly benefit? The
Mike Smith: Yeah.

00:39:59

Nathan Brady: richest man in the world. I mean, this bill would benefit him more than anybody, right? So, for him to be arguing against it and have this much of a public falling out is actually kind of wild. Again, please don't read this as me defending Elon Musk. I am I hope both of them end this feud in the in the worst way possible,
Mike Smith: In the funniest
Nathan Brady: you know.
Mike Smith: way possible.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. Please. Um, so then Elon goes on to say that without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dempse would control the House and Republicans would be uh 5149 in the Senate. Such ingratitude.
Mike Smith: And I
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: I don't even know that I disagree with him. I think that his last minute antics definitely turned the tide.
Nathan Brady: so I don't know, I agree with you. I don't know that I would um disagree with what Elon's saying here. A lot of people questioned What do you think that meant when he said that without me Trump would have lost the election?

00:40:57

Nathan Brady: Do you think there's something else there more than just money?
Mike Smith: I don't know, man. It's It's too hard to tell now. But but I
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: remember him sitting in that Tucker Carlson interview where he's got his kid with him and and they're like they're like laughing and I forget the exact quote, but we went over it on the pod and it really just just like rire of the fixes in and and and
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: we we don't know what it meant. Like it just it could mean anything, but it really
Nathan Brady: Right,
Mike Smith: felt at the time like man it really seems like they're saying that they cheated this election somehow and they're laughing about it.
Nathan Brady: right, right. Um, so yeah, I mean, well, anyway, and I think this timeline is omitting the the tweet. Oh, here it is. Okay, because Elon has deleted the tweet.
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: Here it is.
Mike Smith: you deleted
Nathan Brady: On Thursday,
Mike Smith: a couple of tweets.

00:41:51

Nathan Brady: he he deleted this Thursday at 3:10 p.m. after some back and forth with Trump and and you know, hurling insults at each other. Um Musk makes this accusation. Time to drop the really big bomb at real Donald Trump. Trump is in the Epstein files. This is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT. Um, man, these these egoomaniacs.
Mike Smith: Yeah, you're not kidding.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: Um, I don't know. So, obviously, it's been, you know, half a week or more since this has happened, and it seems like that everybody's cooled off. Like you said, he's deleted these tweets, a few of these, the more incendiary tweets. Um, and I think he's trying to get back into the good graces. He was he was like apparently he was like retweeting stuff that JD Vance had said in a couple of the government agencies. He was like, "Oh, good job." And like just trying to
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: make

00:42:49

Nathan Brady: remember
Mike Smith: it seem
Nathan Brady: JD Vance is the is who um Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want as president, right? So, there was even talk that Elon Musk, in fact, he even quote tweeted and said that he would support impeachment because JD Vance is just the perfect lackey. He's a spineless, soulless vessel for the billionaires. He won't he won't talk back. He won't yap back. He knows where his place is, right? This is exactly who Musk uh wants as president.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um, another interesting tweet, I didn't see this one, was that uh Elon says, "In light of the president's statement about cancellation of my government contracts, SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately.
Mike Smith: Yeah, I was going to say that. That was one that I saw that was that was pretty funny. He comes out later. And he's like, "Okay, not that was that was the one that one of the quote tweets I think that was higher up on the page where somebody was like, "Calm it down, man." Or

00:43:45

Mike Smith: something like that. And he's like, "Okay, that's a good idea. We won't decommission it." Um,
Nathan Brady: Oh, yeah.
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: Here it
Mike Smith: thought it
Nathan Brady: is.
Mike Smith: was funny. Oh, go ahead.
Nathan Brady: It says, uh, one one random
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: user
Mike Smith: Good advice.
Nathan Brady: says,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: "Yeah, this is a shame. Back and forth. You're both better than this. Cool off and take a step back for a couple of days." And he said, "Musk wrote, "Good advice. Okay, we won't decommission the dragon." of course because that would cost you billions of dollars. Um,
Mike Smith: Well, and the US government doesn't have any other options. They decommissioned all of their space fairing uh craft. So, they can't get to the International Space Station or get astronauts back from it without Dragon. So, or going to another country that has something like that. The whole thing is pretty funny.

00:44:30

Mike Smith: I mean, if you just really enjoy uh watching these two bicker and hoping that it, you know, causes a rift. As I recall, Musk had said that he was going to start a new political party called the America Party
Nathan Brady: He
Mike Smith: as
Nathan Brady: did.
Mike Smith: a result
Nathan Brady: That
Mike Smith: of
Nathan Brady: was that
Mike Smith: this.
Nathan Brady: that's in this that's in this uh list as well. And then you know on Saturday Trump said in an interview that he had no plans to you know amend the relationship with Musk. So
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: for me I I think I mentioned this to you. I don't know if I if I posted about it, but for me, I'm wondering, you know, if if their relationship stays the way it is, one of the biggest threats um Congress was facing on the Republican side was that if you don't follow if you don't vote in line with Trump and and the tax bills and all of these other bills, that Elon Musk was going to primary you, that he was going to use his

00:45:27

Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: money to make sure that you got primary married and that so that you would fall in line and uh back President Trump, you know, with with with his entire agenda. And now I don't think I don't know if that threat's still there.
Mike Smith: Yeah, I don't I don't know. Um, it would be funny if he did, you know, the Walter Montdale and he just like is like, I'm going to primary against your your MAGA picks with my America first picks and we split that Republican vote.
Nathan Brady: Oh man, please that. Please do that.
Mike Smith: That
Nathan Brady: I mean, because even with the full backing of the entirety of the Republican party, the Trump or the Trump MAGA party, he couldn't even get a Wisconsin Supreme Court judge elected. Um
Mike Smith: That That's right.
Nathan Brady: so so this rift um people these these MAGA fools on on uh X that are crying about it's going to it's going to cause a a massive loss in the House and the Senate in the midterms. I think they're right.

00:46:32

Nathan Brady: I mean if things stay the way that they Yeah. Oh, you're you're hard muted or something. Something happened. We lost
Mike Smith: Sorry
Nathan Brady: mic.
Mike Smith: about that. Yeah,
Nathan Brady: There
Mike Smith: I I
Nathan Brady: we go.
Mike Smith: hope that that it is I I hope that the infighting really does like lead to just the the people being frustrated with the fact that they keep electing the leopards and then the leopards keep eating each other.
Nathan Brady: Right. Yeah.
Mike Smith: Um, I I I found I remembered one and I I had just hastily added it to the show notes, but I just wanted to go off and and quote uh Mr. Steve Bannon here, who's a former top aid to President Trump. Uh he said, quote, "They should immediate uh immediately start a formal investigation of Musk's immigration status because I'm of strong belief that he's an illegal alien and he should be deported from the country immediately." I mean,
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: if that's not leopards eating faces, man, I don't know what is.

00:47:29

Nathan Brady: well, I'll tell you what. I will tell you what, and I can't I can't go into this article either because your source is New York Times, but I'll I'll tell you what. I will stand by those people protesting in Los Angeles right now and say that Elon Musk deserves due process in immigration
Mike Smith: Yes,
Nathan Brady: court.
Mike Smith: exactly.
Nathan Brady: Okay. All right.
Mike Smith: See,
Nathan Brady: Due
Mike Smith: we can
Nathan Brady: process.
Mike Smith: agree on this, right?
Nathan Brady: We We
Mike Smith: Everybody
Nathan Brady: can
Mike Smith: should
Nathan Brady: do that.
Mike Smith: be able to argue their their case in court. He shouldn't have to go back to South Africa just because Steve Bannon told him to.
Nathan Brady: Oh, no. He wouldn't go to South Africa. I mean, he's if he's an immigrant and he's arguing with the president, he goes straight to El Salvador. I mean, that's the
Mike Smith: No. Straight to jail. Straight to
Nathan Brady: that's
Mike Smith: jail.
Nathan Brady: great to Yeah.

00:48:12

Nathan Brady: So, um, okay. Uh, action-packed stuff. We only have about, uh, 15 minutes remaining on the show today, which is wild. We've only covered two topics. Um, we might have another live show. We we did a live show last week. Um, or or the was it last week? Nobody knows. We we
Mike Smith: somewhere.
Nathan Brady: did a live show and and that went well. We're probably going to do another live show, especially with everything that's going on right now. Maybe we'll watch some live coverage and and um opine on that. But before
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: we go, we have one more uh big story um that I would like to talk about. So, let me pull that up. And that is um speaking of deportations, Greta Thunberg um the young Swedish activist known for her um climate change activism um was recently deported back to Sweden from Israel. Um
Mike Smith: How did
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: she get
Nathan Brady: for

00:49:06

Mike Smith: to Israel?
Nathan Brady: so she got to Israel by way of international waters as she was approaching Gaza. Um,
Mike Smith: She
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: Olympic swimmer. What happened exactly?
Nathan Brady: yeah. No, it uh she was kidnapped in international waters. Um, so so here's what happened for those of you that don't know. um Greta Thunderberg along with um French and German uh and actually se several other activists um from around the world boarded a boat or flotilla I guess they're calling it called the Madlin um that was traveling from I don't know where it left from um but it was it was headed towards Gaza's coast with foreign aid um flour, you know, baby formula, medical supplies, you know, really dangerous s***, right?
Mike Smith: Yeah, the stuff you make bottles with.
Nathan Brady: That Yeah. Um and so the Israeli naval forces um surrounded them about 120 miles off the coast of Gaza. So we're talking still very much international waters.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: um detained them, brought them to Israel, and then claimed they were in Israel illegally and started deportation.

00:50:36

Nathan Brady: Um whatever. Uh so
Mike Smith: Proceeding.
Nathan Brady: every
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, proceedings. Thanks. Um you know, words, uh
Mike Smith: Where is
Nathan Brady: Trump
Mike Smith: it?
Nathan Brady: took
Mike Smith: Whatever.
Nathan Brady: all the best words. I no longer have good words. I just have regular words and some of those words are missing. And so Greta and the other uh 11 activists, I think there were 11, were they all pre-recorded videos stating like, "If you see this, we've been intercepted and detained in international waters by occupational forces and forces that support Israel." Every single one of them, I think, had the same video. Um this time at least I think the last time the last flatillaa that that came in um they the is Israel naval forces bombed them
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: or
Mike Smith: Like
Nathan Brady: like
Mike Smith: open fired on it. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. Um didn't do that with this one. Um but so so this obviously um the the whole point of this whether you want to say it was a publicity stunt or not uh it is to draw more attention to the what's going on in Gaza.

00:51:46

Nathan Brady: Um Thunberg herself says Thunberg I should probably say it right. Thunberg um said that, you know, she she didn't care. It her her deta detention uh what she's going through has is nothing compared to the suffering that's happening in Gaza.
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: I mean they they treated her like the celebrity she is. She was, you know, peacefully detained and gone through the deportation process. She's already back. I think she was in Paris when she last spoke in this this photo here. And she's like, "They just treated me normally and then sent me on my way on a plane." You're like, "No,
Nathan Brady: uh
Mike Smith: nobody in Gaza is receiving this kind of treatment,
Nathan Brady: yeah, and of course uh what happened to all of the medical aid, the flower, the baby formula?
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: destroyed, right? Um,
Mike Smith: Not
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: not
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: confiscated, but destroyed.
Nathan Brady: oh, uh, that's a good question, but I mean, what's the difference,

00:52:46

Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: it's fair.
Nathan Brady: Uh, it's not it's not it's not going to Gaza certainly. Um, so yeah, Israeli Defense Minister um, Katz labels the activist as engaging in a publicity stunt and states that the activists will be shown videos of Hamas atrocities upon arrival. I mean, for God's sakes, what are
Mike Smith: Can
Nathan Brady: you going to do?
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: You're going to tape them to a chair? What is this? Clockwork Orange? Like,
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: what
Mike Smith: it's
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: clockwork
Nathan Brady: happening?
Mike Smith: orange. That's exactly right. Here, I can help them though. I mean, I have the cliff's notes for the the videos that they can show. Right. So, Hamasled militants have killed around 1,200 people, mostly civilians, since October 7th, 2023. Uh, which is widely regarded as the start of this this conflict, right? Uh, and then by con uh contrast, Israel's military campaign has killed more than 54,000 Palestinians according to the Gaza Health Ministry.

00:53:38

Mike Smith: So, and that they can't distinguish between civil civilians and combatants, but said that that a gross number of that is women and children. So, roughly 50 times more people dead uh on Gaza's side than of Israel's side. So, I bet those videos are probably 50 to one showing Gaza versus Israeli, right?
Nathan Brady: No, no, I
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: am really doubt that.
Mike Smith: s***.
Nathan Brady: Um, so
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: yeah,
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: mean
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: it is a publicity stunt, but that I think that that that's a nice way to tie in the whole episode because that's what protests are. They're
Nathan Brady: right
Mike Smith: publicity. They're trying to get eyes. They're trying to get ears. They're trying to get people to experience something that they are ignoring or they are unaware of or or they don't believe is as bad as it might be. And the only way to do that is by making a big spectacle of it. Getting out on the freeway or getting a bunch of boats in a flotilla and trying to bring aid to people who are, you know, under a genocide.

00:54:46

Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: It's all they
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: can do. That's all Greta Thunberg can do. It's all you and I can do.
Nathan Brady: right. Exactly. Um, it surprisingly or or I mean un unsurprisingly I guess the rest of the world um is reacting appropriately while the United States and Israel
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: um remain hostile. And even the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs condemned Israel's actions as a clear violation of international law, criticizing the Netanyahu government and branding Israel as a terror state. Um,
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: Spain's
Mike Smith: s***.
Nathan Brady: Ministry of Foreign Affairs summoned the Israeli uh charge affairs in Madrid to discuss the interception of the Madlin. uh France, the United Kingdom, the United Nations, Amnesty International, um all basically saying the same things today.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: So, I mean, it's clear to the rest of the world there's one bad guy here
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: or or two bad guys here. Um the
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: United

00:55:50

Mike Smith: I'll point
Nathan Brady: States,
Mike Smith: out that it's it's the bad guys who don't want you to do peaceful protest.
Nathan Brady: it's always the way.
Mike Smith: Amazing.
Nathan Brady: So, I think that's a great place for us to wrap today.
Mike Smith: I agree.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: I agree.
Nathan Brady: so, uh, if you're if you're still here, stick around. Um, well, don't stick around any longer. We're going to wrap, but,
Mike Smith: When the video stops
Nathan Brady: uh,
Mike Smith: playing, just keep just
Nathan Brady: just
Mike Smith: stay there.
Nathan Brady: just keep stay stick around. I know this is recorded, but just stick around. Um, we're possibly a live show on Thursday. Um, follow us on Blue Sky if you're not already there. like, subscribe, ring the bell, do the do the alerts thing, all of that stuff. Um, and
Mike Smith: Leave
Nathan Brady: we'll
Mike Smith: a comment.
Nathan Brady: continue we'll continue doing what what we can, whether it be posting, sharing, getting the word out, whatever whatever we can do. Um,
Mike Smith: throwing soup.
Nathan Brady: well, allegedly. Allegedly. Um, you guys keep doing what you're doing. Stay safe out there and we'll catch you next time.
Mike Smith: Smile. Okay. Thank you.