Whiskey Leaks 2, Signal Boogaloo Starring Pete Hegseth

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Nathan Brady: Okay, you ready to rock? All right, let's do this. I almost hit
Mike Smith: Let
Nathan Brady: go live.
Mike Smith: us begin.
Nathan Brady: God damn it.
Mike Smith: Don't answer.
Nathan Brady: What? I'm hitting I just hit the button. We're live. We're doing this live.
Mike Smith: Oh no.
Nathan Brady: Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the Blue Sedition Podcast. I am a Nate Brady alongside my co-host.
Mike Smith: I am Mike Smith, bearded and furious as ever.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, you are fur. You're so You've never been more furious. Uh what's
Mike Smith: It's a
Nathan Brady: happening?
Mike Smith: constant state of being as as a progressive. You're just you're nothing if you're not angry.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, that's fair. That is
Mike Smith: That's
Nathan Brady: fair.
Mike Smith: how we do.
Nathan Brady: Uh what's going on, man?
Mike Smith: Man, not a whole lot. Uh we're we're we're we're we're a day late, a dollar short, but uh we're doing the podcast.

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Mike Smith: There's news to cover.
Nathan Brady: I mean,
Mike Smith: Got stuff to say.
Nathan Brady: it's okay that we're late, right? That's fine.
Mike Smith: We had a day of remembrance. We took a
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: day of
Nathan Brady: Was
Mike Smith: of
Nathan Brady: it for the
Mike Smith: inner
Nathan Brady: Was
Mike Smith: peace.
Nathan Brady: it for the Pope?
Mike Smith: It was for the pope. We had to take a day for the pope. I think everybody knows how deeply religious we both are. Oh, or aren't
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: in this case.
Nathan Brady: I yeah, I do. Yeah, it is something we should probably talk about. Um, I'm hearing I'm Listen, I'm not following it closely. I know you are. I'm
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: hearing
Mike Smith: am
Nathan Brady: that JD Vance stabbed the Pope. Is this Is this correct?
Mike Smith: allegedly allegedly JD
Nathan Brady: Wow.
Mike Smith: Van stabbed the Pope.
Nathan Brady: Wow. Uh, is anyone gonna look into this or

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Mike Smith: you know, the DOJ run by Trump admin. You think they're going to look into one of their own?
Nathan Brady: Wow.
Mike Smith: Uh,
Nathan Brady: You're probably
Mike Smith: you
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: know,
Nathan Brady: So, we're never
Mike Smith: accused
Nathan Brady: going to hear about this.
Mike Smith: accused
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: of high crimes in a different country alto together?
Nathan Brady: Yeah. That's
Mike Smith: I doubt it. I
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: doubt
Nathan Brady: can't
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: I don't see it on any of the big news outlets. Of course, they're not covering it on Fox News. They're just
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: sweeping this whole thing under their rug.
Mike Smith: I think that the only uh realistic uh action that we can expect here is not they're not going to charge him with any crimes or anything. They're just going to deport him. They're going to send him back to Vatican City, deported, and then, you know, hands. It'll be what it'll be.

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Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: The only
Nathan Brady: All right.
Mike Smith: the only way we're getting out of this this international tragedy of
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: JD Vance allegedly stabbing the Pope,
Nathan Brady: I don't know if you know this. Did you know that a pope exploded? Did you know that there was a pope?
Mike Smith: a pope exploded.
Nathan Brady: A
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: pope
Mike Smith: I'm gonna
Nathan Brady: explo?
Mike Smith: have to ask you to go into that a little bit more.
Nathan Brady: Well, you should follow our Blue Sky account if you don't right now. Um, on Blue Sky, I was I was browsing Discover this morning and I was taking a sip of my coffee and I I read that there was a pope that exploded. I spit coffee all over my desk. It's actually true. There was a pope in like 1953 that had died and
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: when when they were when they were inbombing him I guess there they were they there there were too much there were too much uh builtup gases and

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Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: and and he and he exploded. No, it wasn't
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: wasn't
Mike Smith: was
Nathan Brady: while
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: he was
Mike Smith: was thinking
Nathan Brady: still alive.
Mike Smith: like like you know an assassination
Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: attempt. Somebody set up TNT under the dis or something. Oh, no. You're saying
Nathan Brady: no, no, no. It was spontaneous. Uh, it wasn't spontaneous combustion either. I think that would be a bigger story in the within
Mike Smith: if
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: if if you're a religious person in
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: the in the 1600s, right?
Nathan Brady: Sure.
Mike Smith: And you're you're trying to send your pope to visit his god and
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: he's been dead for a day or two and then he just explodes.
Nathan Brady: That's not
Mike Smith: I'm I'm sitting there as a cardinal going, maybe this wasn't the guy. Maybe
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: we have a different guy.

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Mike Smith: Do we have a
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: better guy?
Nathan Brady: I mean, it would
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: have been really funny.
Mike Smith: getting the signal. I'm reading you. Just we'll send a different guy.
Nathan Brady: You had a funny joke the other day that would have been hilarious. I don't think you you skied it out where uh it was like it was, you know, if Pope dies on Easter, you know, he he has he has the opportunity
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: to do the
Mike Smith: yeah.
Nathan Brady: funny the funniest thing ever, just resurrects two days later.
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: I will say the Vatican doesn't have the the best sense of humor, but their meme
Nathan Brady: no.
Mike Smith: game if they could have done the funniest thing ever. You just get on Twitter, you know, at Vatican or whatever and and they're like, you just wait two days. We'll be
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: we'll be right back.
Nathan Brady: just wait you guys. Wait.

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Nathan Brady: Give us two days.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Give us two days. Um, you know, if anyone if any pope was going to to be resurrected, I mean, um, Pope Francis certainly uh I I I don't know a lot about him. I've heard a little bit through interviews and whatever, but
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: mean, you know, he picked he picked the name Francis, which no other pope has picked before,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: uh, because it, you know, represent represented the poor. I guess there was a a St. Francis or something like that. Again, I'm
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: not a, you can tell I'm not a religious
Mike Smith: We're not Catholic
Nathan Brady: person.
Mike Smith: as you can tell. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Um but also uh you know some of his stances uh in fact there was news today out of Israel that they are cracking down on social media posts that were um you know mourning the pope because this pope made Israel look bad because I guess he cared about brown kids dying.

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Nathan Brady: No, this
Mike Smith: Did
Nathan Brady: is a
Mike Smith: he
Nathan Brady: true story. Did you did
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: you not
Mike Smith: just
Nathan Brady: hear
Mike Smith: saying
Nathan Brady: about this?
Mike Smith: I'm making the face because my I'm I'm thinking of wording here. I'm like did he make Israel look bad or did he just say
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: some things and Israel looks bad if you say it the
Nathan Brady: yeah,
Mike Smith: right way?
Nathan Brady: yeah. Um,
Mike Smith: because we've had some of that.
Nathan Brady: Israel's been looking pretty bad. Uh, here, look at this. Here's a a a article from Reuters today where Israel shares then deletes condolences over Pope's death. What the f***?
Mike Smith: Yeah. Sorry about him dying. I'm No,
Nathan Brady: Ah
Mike Smith: I'm not. I'm not sorry about
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: that,
Nathan Brady: Yeah. And so
Mike Smith: man.
Nathan Brady: so they're also I guess look at and the uh

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Mike Smith: Was
Nathan Brady: Jerusalem Post quoted officials at foreign ministry as saying that the pope had made statements against Israel and that the social media post had been published in error. So, I mean, Jesus Christ, man.
Mike Smith: the Was Hey, was the Pope Hamas?
Nathan Brady: That may have been why
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: uh
Mike Smith: just
Nathan Brady: JD
Mike Smith: We're
Nathan Brady: Vance
Mike Smith: just asking
Nathan Brady: allegedly
Mike Smith: questions here.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, that may be why they sent gravy gravy seals over there to stab stab the pope. Allegedly. Uh so, um
Mike Smith: Got
Nathan Brady: anyway,
Mike Smith: it. God dam.
Nathan Brady: goodness gracious. Uh, so yeah, Pope Francis, uh, who did die at 88. Um, which I guess that's a Nazi symbol, right? 88. Maybe maybe they're pissed off about that. That's some Nazi symbol. Listen, I don't know. Uh, apparently according to Israel, Pope bad. Um, Pope
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: Pope bad. So,
Mike Smith: There are not a lot of Catholics in Israel, are there?

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Nathan Brady: I don't know. I I couldn't
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: tell
Mike Smith: would
Nathan Brady: you.
Mike Smith: guess not.
Nathan Brady: I couldn't tell you. I know. I don't know. I
Mike Smith: You don't
Nathan Brady: don't know.
Mike Smith: know?
Nathan Brady: I don't know much. I don't know much about religion. Um I have a few friends that have taken religious studies. When I
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: first came to LA, I was involved not Scientology.
Mike Smith: Oh.
Nathan Brady: I was involved for a little while with the Church of Religious Science. Um which was a church that I know it was a couple years. I went
Mike Smith: How
Nathan Brady: through
Mike Smith: old
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: is this?
Nathan Brady: phase. I went through a phase. It's called the Church of Religious Science. And they're basically a church that just teaches um take takes bits from all religions. So like
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: one day they could have like a a sermon that's based off of uh you know some m Muslim principle or some Catholic

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Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: principle
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: or Jewish principle
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: or whatever. So it was a really good way for for my wife and I to like learn about different religions. But then um they were shaking that basket too much. You know
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: that cringe feeling you get when they were like when the when the guy who's leading the today's sermon or whatever drives in with like a you know stretch limo and his and
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: his wife
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: comes in behind him in their uh you know expedition
Mike Smith: The suburban
Nathan Brady: or whatever.
Mike Smith: with the 40
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: kids. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. And you're like and then they're like hey we need this money. We're running out of money. And you're like okay this feels this feels like every other religion to me. So I kind of I
Mike Smith: Uh
Nathan Brady: kind of stopped
Mike Smith: yeah,

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Nathan Brady: that.
Mike Smith: I will say that uh so I went to a Jesuit college. I took a lot of uh comparative uh comparative religious studies in college. My wife went to a different college and we ended up going to a unitarian church a couple of times because it's sort of like what you were describing where they sort of take take the good from every of the religions that they
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: like and they would do the sermons that way and they would try and make it less spiritual and more about community and like what can we do here to
Nathan Brady: Yes.
Mike Smith: improve everyone's
Nathan Brady: Exactly.
Mike Smith: lives which is
Nathan Brady: Exactly.
Mike Smith: which is that's what we sort of espouse as progressive for like we're trying to make it better for everyone
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: you know so that that resonated with us. And but it was the same thing. It was like toward the end there, the basket gets passed around and I'm like,
Nathan Brady: It's one thing if it's like one

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Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: time
Mike Smith: guess you
Nathan Brady: they
Mike Smith: got
Nathan Brady: pass.
Mike Smith: to keep the doors open, but man,
Nathan Brady: Yeah. It's This one was a little too much for me. um you know and then if you start talking about tithing and that like Jesus really loves it if
Mike Smith: yeah,
Nathan Brady: you give 10% of your income like
Mike Smith: yeah,
Nathan Brady: you talking about what are you
Mike Smith: yeah.
Nathan Brady: talking about
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: um
Mike Smith: it's
Nathan Brady: so anyway
Mike Smith: it's something. We're not here to talk about religion, though.
Nathan Brady: no uh
Mike Smith: That's
Nathan Brady: clearly
Mike Smith: not
Nathan Brady: we
Mike Smith: why
Nathan Brady: don't
Mike Smith: we're
Nathan Brady: know
Mike Smith: here.
Nathan Brady: much about it what we are here to talk about let's we can shoot over to our main story we have a ton of things that we want to cover as always and we'll probably get little bits and pieces in but um I'm really excited about um the new movie coming out.

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Nathan Brady: I think it's called Whiskey Leaks 2: Electric Bugaloo. Is that
Mike Smith: Let's go.
Nathan Brady: Is that what it's called?
Mike Smith: That's
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: what it's called.
Nathan Brady: so this DUI hire has done it again. He He done did it again. What What happened, Mike? Can you explain what's what's going on with this guy?
Mike Smith: He he sat uh hearings where they basically were like, "You're unsuited." The first time around, they're like, "You
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: clearly don't understand how classified information works and you're you're
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: totally a joke and and you shouldn't be in charge of anything to do with national security." And then he turned to the camera and he was the goofy meme and he's like, "I'mma f****** do it again." and then just keeps talking to people on on Signal. I think it's like he's at Easter Sunday having lunch around the big table and he gets a text and they're like, "We're bombing people and he goes, "Look at this.

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Mike Smith: Look at look at the
Nathan Brady: he's
Mike Smith: f******
Nathan Brady: just showing his kids are
Mike Smith: showing
Nathan Brady: looking over
Mike Smith: people."
Nathan Brady: his shoulder.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: He's Yeah. Um,
Mike Smith: God damn.
Nathan Brady: man, the the guy literally cannot stop doing it. So in January um he created a uh a signal group chat called like
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: defense team huddle and it included his wife and his brother um his who is for some reason a Pentagon liaison and his personal attorney and then about a dozen other personal and professional uh contacts
Mike Smith: Right. None
Nathan Brady: with
Mike Smith: none of whom, as I understand it, had security clearance for any of this information.
Nathan Brady: Right. So then uh so then in March uh the 15th he received classified details about that upcoming US air strikes uh on Houthi targets in Yemen. Um and then he was like yeah I'm going to I'm going to include this in the signal chat because that seems like the right the right way to do this.

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Nathan Brady: Right. So he shares flight schedules, launch times, uh FA18 Hornet strikes, you know,
Mike Smith: target
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: names,
Nathan Brady: ver verbatim as they appeared in the classified material verbatim into the signal group chat with as a reminder his wife, his
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: brother, his now I don't expect any um
Mike Smith: No.
Nathan Brady: anybody who works in like a high military uh position to not go home and tell their wife like, "We're
Mike Smith: Oh, no.
Nathan Brady: f******
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: we're
Mike Smith: no, no.
Nathan Brady: bombing
Mike Smith: I'm gonna I'm
Nathan Brady: Yemen
Mike Smith: gonna push you
Nathan Brady: tomorrow."
Mike Smith: back on this. I'm
Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: going to
Nathan Brady: no,
Mike Smith: push you
Nathan Brady: no,
Mike Smith: back on this.
Nathan Brady: no. I I agree with you. They shouldn't, but I I'm I I'm not going to be like, "Oh, I can't believe I can't believe that he did that." Okay.
Mike Smith: So, so, okay, but
Nathan Brady: But

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Mike Smith: and I have firsthand experience of this. My mother has worked with the defense industry for years and years and years and uh basically
Nathan Brady: and you are on all her group chats.
Mike Smith: no but but
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: I remember my dad would ask questions from time to time and she would look him dead in the face with like the the most stoic and this is just how my mother is but she would just you know I can't tell you that. Like just that was the tone like you know I'm not I cannot tell you that.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: And I was like oh s*** she's gonna beat the hell out of dad.
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: So I know there are people who have the the the respect the stoicism required for understanding what a you know
Nathan Brady: sure.
Mike Smith: confidentiality
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: means.
Nathan Brady: That that aside that aside I I I wouldn't be blown away if like you found out somebody was telling their wife like at home. Fine.

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Nathan Brady: Unless
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: that wife turned out to be like a Russian spy like Melania or whatever allegedly and you know then blah blah blah. Fine. But to
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: put that in a in a group chat, in a signal chat
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: with
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I mean and then other random personal contacts who don't have security clearance.
Mike Smith: Right. So, I was thinking about this. This is a funny thing and I'm gonna bring my mother in again because she's in her
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: 70s now,
Nathan Brady: Your
Mike Smith: but
Nathan Brady: mother.
Mike Smith: and she's
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: not the most technologically savvy, but everybody
Nathan Brady: All right.
Mike Smith: in the family obviously has a cell phone, right? So, my mom will have like this contact like this this group chat that she's got going on with, you know, 80% of us in the family. Then she'll have this second group chat with a different 80% and a third group chat with a different So it's like whichever one comes to the top that's the one she's sending it to.

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Mike Smith: And so like sometimes I'll get messages that have nothing to do with me. My brother will
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: get messages that have nothing.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: That's what he's doing. This guy's just drunk and he's just like back to the group chat probably. And she's typing in we got them. We bombed the whoevers. And his his wife's like you're not supposed to send this here.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Um, okay. So, what's the So, so, so where are we now with this? Um, Hexath of course keeps denying that he shared any classified information, including in the first leak where that was then clearly, you know, you remember Tulsi Gabbard sitting in front of the committee going, "Uh, I don't remember I don't think we shared any sensitive information." Uh,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: and it and it's like you realize that tomorrow we're gonna have the transcripts of this and so you know if you're lying we're gonna find out about it tomorrow. Um,
Mike Smith: That's
Nathan Brady: if

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Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: she's still
Mike Smith: interesting
Nathan Brady: alive right
Mike Smith: That's the interesting thing about round two here is that these were all people. He didn't accidentally invite the the editor of the uh Athletic Atlantic, excuse me,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: this
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: time around. So,
Nathan Brady: Gold, right?
Mike Smith: everybody involved in this was like, none of these people would ever leak. It's all it's going to be a disgruntled former employee of the DOJ or whoever. And you're like, but it's unnamed right now. Why
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: don't you tell us the name of the person and then we can vet that, right?
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: So, who who leaked it? Who's the
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: leaker?
Nathan Brady: there so so the Trump administration is trying to say now that oh it was just some disgruntled employees leaking this information. Well, okay. So, first of all, you're saying if they leaked this information, then the information is true. So, they leaked

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Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: it or
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: they lied about it. So, get make keep make, you know, get your story
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: straight,
Mike Smith: they haven't
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: they haven't said, as far as I know, they haven't taken the stance of this is this is false. They're like Hegath. Well, Hexath is, you know, he's
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: drunk.
Nathan Brady: Hexath
Mike Smith: You have to
Nathan Brady: publicly
Mike Smith: leave him alone.
Nathan Brady: denied that there was any uh classified information in the second leak and he he insists that they were informal and unclassified coordination for media purposes. Um
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: so and
Mike Smith: this
Nathan Brady: then the
Mike Smith: headline
Nathan Brady: fallout.
Mike Smith: that I'm
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: reading right now sort of suggests that that's not true.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Well, now Trump is coming out. You can never tell, right? Um, Fox
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: News,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: did you see Did you see what Fox News did earlier today?

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Mike Smith: No. What did they
Nathan Brady: They
Mike Smith: do?
Nathan Brady: they had Hexath on for an interview and they called him the former uh defense secretary.
Mike Smith: Oh, yeah. Yeah, I I did see that. I take it back. Yeah, that's
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: pretty
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: good
Nathan Brady: don't know.
Mike Smith: when
Nathan Brady: Are they getting are they
Mike Smith: when
Nathan Brady: getting
Mike Smith: you're
Nathan Brady: notes
Mike Smith: uh
Nathan Brady: from Yeah,
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: that's pretty
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: funny. So, uh, Hegathth, of course. Um, so what's going on right now is it sounds like Hegsth is like freaking out at the Pentagon. Um, he's like, at least people on the in the know are saying that he's like super scared about leaks. He's like freaking out. It's complete
Mike Smith: All
Nathan Brady: chaos over there anyway. Like high ranking military officials, people that have been there for a very long time are saying this is the last several months have been just a complete s*** show.

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Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: you know, no direction, no leadership. I mean, the guy is just doing, you know, Hexath is just going on morning shows. He's talking about alcohol at 8:30 in the morning. I He's It's very very strange. I mean, I don't I don't think he's long for this. And part of me as somebody who hates uh uh the US military's uh intervention tactics in in other countries, I'm thrilled that there is this complete uncoordinated
Mike Smith: It's so incompetent.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: that it's so incompetent. Um but at the same time, it's really dangerous, right? Uh and
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: sure.
Nathan Brady: am worried if Pete Hexath is replaced with somebody more competent. Uh it could it just could be bad. Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: but how, you know, how do you It's both
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: bad.
Mike Smith: don't
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: know.
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: double

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Mike Smith: I will
Nathan Brady: a long
Mike Smith: say that
Nathan Brady: story.
Mike Smith: if I'm even a slightly organized terrorist unit or whatever combatant with the United States in a faroff country, I am looking at this as an opportunity, right?
Nathan Brady: Oh, yeah.
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: have
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: to think like I can spread, you know, disinformation all over out here and they'll not know what to do with it and I can get them to do some dumb things or let their guard drop and I can do what, you know, whatever I need to do
Nathan Brady: I mean, forget not forget like um having to to do this because there's discordination or whatever. Discordination, is that a
Mike Smith: maybe. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: uh Sure, let's call that a word. But you have people like Russia who are allegedly I mean they're in on it. They're working with
Mike Smith: Oh, of course. Oh,
Nathan Brady: you know
Mike Smith: for sure. But
Nathan Brady: um
Mike Smith: I'm

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Nathan Brady: allegedly.
Mike Smith: just talking about like I'm just talking about like um there's a just real clear example. Legal Eagle did a video where they they compare and contrasted this versus um you know the the email butter emails, the Hillary Clinton Benghazi scandal.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, sure.
Mike Smith: And so some of the material facts that they that have come out about that, I mean, ignoring all the politics side of it, just like what happened during Benghazi and like how that transpired, it was just a lot of noise and they had some credible uh, you know, information out there saying that there might be an attack on the US embassy in Benghazi. and they treated it, you know, in in the way you would when you get a tip like that and then escalated it as you would a tip like that. But how are organizations not doing this right now? I just be flooding the field with things like that so
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: that anything I was actually doing would just look like noise. You know what I mean?

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Nathan Brady: I agree. Yeah, I I'm I I'm sure it's going on to to to some extent. Um because this is just this is just too good unfortunately for us
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: as Americans to not take advantage of, right?
Mike Smith: Yeah. And and
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: the second the second point there that like sort of you know other side to that coin is that these guys continually it seems uh insist on using signal for secure communications when their own intelligence agencies have told them that that is not a secure channel. they shouldn't be using it. And so if I'm Russia for sure, if I'm China, if I'm any other world uh power, I am looking to figure out how to back door anything I can into the signal. I want to get it any and all of their communications knowing that they're improperly trusting this platform.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. I And I mean, forget like forget having to break signal. I mean, their passwords are all over the internet. I mean, they're inviting random people to signal chats.

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Nathan Brady: I mean, anybody who is coordinated. I mean, as as as we both know, um, being in this industry, I've done a lot
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: with security over
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: the last
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: decade. um if a foreign state actor wants to compromise you, your your computer, your system, whatever, they're going to do it. It's a little bit harder for like these bigger encryption applications. Um, but if if you're giving them all of these other opportunities where
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: like your your username and password is all over the place or you're susceptible to social engineering, you're inviting random people into your chats, they're going to find a way,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: you know, and it's
Mike Smith: There
Nathan Brady: going
Mike Smith: was
Nathan Brady: to come
Mike Smith: a
Nathan Brady: back and bite
Mike Smith: right. There was a talk I was listening to where they were talking about the types of attacks that they would use on these things. And I I remember the the host saying something like, "Well, how are you going to infiltrate uh you know, a platform like Signal that's built around security and stuff?"

00:21:36

Mike Smith: And then the opposition on the call was like, "Well, I'm not going to do that. What I'm going to do is get a screen reader in their phone so that when
Nathan Brady: right,
Mike Smith: they open Signal, I'm just reading the chat to a log
Nathan Brady: right,
Mike Smith: and that's it."
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: You're like,
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: "I
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: don't have to break Signal. I gotta break this drunk idiot. That's all I got to do.
Nathan Brady: that's exactly what it is. Listen, Pete Pete Hagsth, as everybody knows, is a sex pest. He's a womanizer. you know, he's out at some bar, you know, uh even though he's married, he's out at some
Mike Smith: You
Nathan Brady: bar.
Mike Smith: said
Nathan Brady: He's
Mike Smith: in a
Nathan Brady: drinking
Mike Smith: Russian
Nathan Brady: in
Mike Smith: beauty.
Nathan Brady: DC. Yeah. And that's the end of it. That's just that's all it takes. We're not talking about like this isn't like Homeland or, you know, the 24

00:22:10

Mike Smith: No.
Nathan Brady: level uh you know, this is this is like legitimate stuff that happens regularly in DC.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: People are getting compromised all of the time. And these people are the most uninformed, sloppy adults that we've had in in government in a while. So, you know,
Mike Smith: Yeah. And just the way that the frantic nature that he's responding to this, like the showing of a fear, for lack of a better word, you know how
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: like Trump is like immune to everything. Like
Nathan Brady: Yes.
Mike Smith: they could be blackmailing him and he's like, "I don't care. It doesn't matter.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Tell
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: him, tell him I have the P tapes. I don't care." And he
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: just goes
Nathan Brady: compromat
Mike Smith: and does his thing. Pete
Nathan Brady: is a
Mike Smith: Hegath
Nathan Brady: compromat,
Mike Smith: here is terrified that something's gonna get out and
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: he's acting that way.

00:22:54

Mike Smith: He's getting on the news and being a weirdo and just he's terrified. They must I mean somebody has to have something on him
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: because
Nathan Brady: if
Mike Smith: he's
Nathan Brady: it it
Mike Smith: just
Nathan Brady: really
Mike Smith: he's
Nathan Brady: feels
Mike Smith: acting
Nathan Brady: that
Mike Smith: so
Nathan Brady: way.
Mike Smith: weird.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. He's he's uh he's fired or or transferred like six top ranking officials in the Pentagon. Um he's trying to get his wife a role, I I heard today. Uh it's it's really I mean it's strange that strange things
Mike Smith: If
Nathan Brady: are happening.
Mike Smith: nothing else, he's just acting with such an amount of paranoia that should
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: should make everybody else a little afraid and be like, "Is this guy compromised? Like, do we
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: need to talk about this?"
Nathan Brady: It's extremely alarming.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um, okay. I'm I don't have anything else to say on this.

00:23:32

Nathan Brady: I mean, uh, is a is a really bad DUI hire. Um, you know, I maybe the Trump administration will correct it. I don't know if it will be better. Um, nothing this administration does is is is any good. So,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: you know, whatever. Um, we have a lots of other small I want to talk about something funny real quick. This is
Mike Smith: Give
Nathan Brady: this
Mike Smith: me something funny because I need some funny after this.
Nathan Brady: Homeland Security Secretary Christy Gnome's bag, including $3,000 in cash, is stolen from a DC restaurant. Um, I I assume it also had a dog pistol in there for shooting pets.
Mike Smith: Yeah, obviously.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: you know, I don't know if we
Mike Smith: Yep.
Nathan Brady: have a full list of what was in there. Um,
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: I guess she was telling people uh that there was $3,000 in cash in her bag. What do you have? I I

00:24:26

Mike Smith: I don't I don't understand this at all. And maybe that's just because we're not the right demographic here, but
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: I don't walk around with three large very often. That's not a thing I do.
Nathan Brady: I um I
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: mean
Mike Smith: think
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: her.
Nathan Brady: only time in my past that I've walked around with $3,000, there's two reasons. I'm going in or out of the casino,
Mike Smith: Yep.
Nathan Brady: right? Play poker or do whatever, you know, at a casino
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: or I'm buying lots of drugs.
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: I mean, alleged
Mike Smith: well. Or you've just sold a lot of drug allegedly.
Nathan Brady: or well, yeah. Um
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: I never I never did none of that, but yeah. Uh you know, the other side. I may have been on the other side before, but all but this is this is why, right? What reason? Oh, maybe she's buying eggs.

00:25:14

Nathan Brady: Is
Mike Smith: Maybe
Nathan Brady: she buying?
Mike Smith: she's bought eggs. Yeah,
Nathan Brady: She's
Mike Smith: maybe she
Nathan Brady: buying
Mike Smith: had a lot
Nathan Brady: eggs,
Mike Smith: of eggs to buy for her family. It's
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: possible.
Nathan Brady: Close. It was close to Easter.
Mike Smith: And she was in a restaurant called the egg roll. Coincidence?
Nathan Brady: Really? Really? Was she?
Mike Smith: Yeah, that's
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: what it says.
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: Oh, white I'm sorry. It was after the
Nathan Brady: No.
Mike Smith: the White House Easter egg roll. Excuse me.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: That
Nathan Brady: That
Mike Smith: one
Nathan Brady: would
Mike Smith: came
Nathan Brady: have
Mike Smith: by
Nathan Brady: been funny.
Mike Smith: really quick.
Nathan Brady: It
Mike Smith: I just
Nathan Brady: was
Mike Smith: thought I
Nathan Brady: It
Mike Smith: read
Nathan Brady: was the
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: Capitol Burger restaurant.
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: Um, and saw an unknown white male.

00:25:40

Nathan Brady: Oh, I'm surprised that she didn't change that. She had she
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: had one opportunity there. Uh,
Mike Smith: Well, she's got the next she's got the next bit. So, the guy
Nathan Brady: okay.
Mike Smith: was
Nathan Brady: The
Mike Smith: wearing a
Nathan Brady: medical
Mike Smith: medical
Nathan Brady: mask.
Mike Smith: mask, so they're going to
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: be anti-mask again. They're gonna
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: be like, "Only
Nathan Brady: Of course.
Mike Smith: criminals wear masks."
Nathan Brady: Um.
Mike Smith: Joking aside, I wouldn't be surprised if they spun this into one of those only criminals wear masks crackdowns on
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: protesting
Nathan Brady: for
Mike Smith: nationwide.
Nathan Brady: I'm sure they've already done posts like that. Yeah. Um, the thief got away with Gnome's uh driver's license, medication, apartment keys, passport. Oh, she could get picked up and deported. DHS access badge. Wow. Boy, this is great.
Mike Smith: Why
Nathan Brady: Makeup
Mike Smith: was she

00:26:20

Nathan Brady: bag.
Mike Smith: carrying your passport?
Nathan Brady: Well, you have to carry your passport nowadays.
Mike Smith: But why was she? She's she's the Homeland Security Secretary. She doesn't really travel abroad as a part of that job very often, right? She's not going to, you know,
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: Israel or the UK or anything.
Nathan Brady: listen, she does wear a lot of bronzer. Maybe, you know, she doesn't get,
Mike Smith: I think
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: you
Nathan Brady: know,
Mike Smith: have to in Trump's admin. If you don't look like him at least somewhat, then then he he gets unnerved. Doesn't doesn't
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: like
Nathan Brady: that's
Mike Smith: that.
Nathan Brady: fair. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Uh, yeah. No, that's a good question. Why is she Why does she have her license
Mike Smith: because
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: she
Nathan Brady: her passport
Mike Smith: had a driver's
Nathan Brady: on
Mike Smith: license
Nathan Brady: her
Mike Smith: in

00:26:57

Nathan Brady: person?
Mike Smith: there allegedly. So, why do you have your
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: passport and your driver's license?
Nathan Brady: it could
Mike Smith: Unless
Nathan Brady: be. I
Mike Smith: she
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: was like
Nathan Brady: I don't
Mike Smith: literally
Nathan Brady: know.
Mike Smith: going somewhere.
Nathan Brady: I don't know how fast I I don't know how fast these people have to get on a plane or something, you know. Um,
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: All right. But, I mean, do
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: you need a passport to get on Air Force One or
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: if you're
Nathan Brady: don't
Mike Smith: if
Nathan Brady: know.
Mike Smith: you're
Nathan Brady: Apparently,
Mike Smith: traveling
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: in
Nathan Brady: need
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: $3,000
Mike Smith: admin?
Nathan Brady: in in cash, though,
Mike Smith: I mean, maybe
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: that's
Nathan Brady: know.
Mike Smith: it. Maybe they got a high stakes
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: poker game they play up in the air.

00:27:17

Mike Smith: I don't know.
Nathan Brady: Listen, I mean, yeah, I I don't know what's going on with this, but it is um listen, crime is bad, but this is funny. Okay.
Mike Smith: Okay. Her
Nathan Brady: And
Mike Smith: entire
Nathan Brady: I'
Mike Smith: family was in town, including her children and grandchildren. She
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: was using the withdrawal to treat her family to dinner activities and Easter gifts.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Mhm.
Mike Smith: Okay. You go
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: to a nice dinner, right? What kind of activities are you doing? You're doing the Easter egg roll, like they said, at the White House, which is free. And you're buying Easter gifts.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: Three grand. Three grand. How many people are in your family?
Nathan Brady: But
Mike Smith: Three
Nathan Brady: even
Mike Smith: grand.
Nathan Brady: even still, um if so, I'm going out to dinner at the Capital Burger.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I imagine um they take credit cards.

00:28:02

Mike Smith: Or you could put it
Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: on credit because I'm I'm nearby. I don't know. Let's
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: see.
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: The Capital Burger. I'm looking it up right now and it says that your average plate price is 20 to $30 a plate.
Nathan Brady: well, that's pretty cheap.
Mike Smith: That's not that that's not expense. So she had a hundred family members then yeah three grand. Well not tip. So maybe maybe 250 family members then
Nathan Brady: But also, why
Mike Smith: tip.
Nathan Brady: cash? Why? Like, I'm not like, "Oh, I'm going out for the day. I need to go to the ATM and withdraw a whole bunch of cash to pay for what I'm about to do for the day." Nobody does that anymore, right?
Mike Smith: I'll point out as well that of the listed items taken, blank checks is there, but nowhere does it say credit card or like a debit card. So, did she like go to the teller, make a check out to cash for three large, and then hand it to her and then

00:28:50

Nathan Brady: That's
Mike Smith: show her
Nathan Brady: interesting.
Mike Smith: her passport and her driver's license and then they gave
Nathan Brady: That's
Mike Smith: her the money.
Nathan Brady: That's really weird.
Mike Smith: Is that
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: weird?
Nathan Brady: that's weird. That is weird. These people are
Mike Smith: These
Nathan Brady: freaking weird,
Mike Smith: people
Nathan Brady: man.
Mike Smith: are weird, man.
Nathan Brady: Um, all right, let's
Mike Smith: Leave
Nathan Brady: keep
Mike Smith: it in
Nathan Brady: going.
Mike Smith: the comments. By the way, if I'm wrong and this is how you live your life, I want to hear about it. Give me a comment and let me know because
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: tell us
Mike Smith: don't see
Nathan Brady: how
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: much cash you're walking around with every day.
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: where
Nathan Brady: want everyone
Mike Smith: you'll be in a
Nathan Brady: where
Mike Smith: couple
Nathan Brady: you'll
Mike Smith: of weeks

00:29:16

Nathan Brady: be, your exact location, where you'll be tomorrow, for instance, and how
Mike Smith: that
Nathan Brady: much
Mike Smith: long
Nathan Brady: cash
Mike Smith: in an hour. Yeah, exactly.
Nathan Brady: you'll have on you. Please let us know. Uh let's keep moving on. Let's do some let's do some rapid fire
Mike Smith: All right, I'm
Nathan Brady: um
Mike Smith: ready.
Nathan Brady: stories here. So, let's pull up this one next. We got ICE ambushed Mosen Madawi in a trap and had a clear plan to ship him to Louisiana. So, we talked about this a little bit on the pod last week, right? Um and you had said I hadn't I didn't know that it was a trap. I thought
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: he was
Mike Smith: gave
Nathan Brady: actually
Mike Smith: them the
Nathan Brady: going
Mike Smith: benefit of the doubt, you
Nathan Brady: right
Mike Smith: know, because it was this source said this and this source said that. And so at the time, the best we could say in good faith is that he it was alleged by some that there was a nice trap set up for him

00:30:01

Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: and him thinking that he was finalizing his citizenship paperwork to become a United States citizen and then they they arrested him and and deported him.
Nathan Brady: And and
Mike Smith: Why is
Nathan Brady: how
Mike Smith: this guy wearing a hood? What a idiot.
Nathan Brady: these people these people suck, man. These
Mike Smith: These
Nathan Brady: people
Mike Smith: people
Nathan Brady: absolutely
Mike Smith: are the worst.
Nathan Brady: suck. Uh how how ironic is it that he thought he was going to pledge his allegiance to the Constitution and the United
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: States
Mike Smith: The final
Nathan Brady: of America
Mike Smith: step. Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: and then be, you know, detained uh what some will argue and I think it it's correct to say, you know, viol, you know, in a way that violates the Constitution. Uh,
Mike Smith: I just want to say that I think that this is a really interesting case to try if you can get it into the national spotlight because you if you're the the Trump admin, you don't really have a leg to stand on here.

00:30:56

Mike Smith: Your position is one of we don't want people in our in our country illegally. And our response to that will be this guy's here legally trying to become a citizen and literally you trapped him during the last stage of that process to become
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: a legal citizen and you deported you're detained and attempted to deport him for no reason like what where how do I become a citizen then are you just saying that that no one should be allowed to be an American citizen?
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Do it. Do it
Mike Smith: Certainly
Nathan Brady: the right
Mike Smith: don't
Nathan Brady: way.
Mike Smith: believe in the 14th amendment so I don't even know how you become a citizen.
Nathan Brady: You do it the right way and you buy Trump's $5 million gold visa, whatever it is. And
Mike Smith: God
Nathan Brady: that's
Mike Smith: damn
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: right way to become an
Mike Smith: This
Nathan Brady: American.
Mike Smith: f****** country. Do you have $5 million to spend on this citizenship?

00:31:41

Mike Smith: I don't.
Nathan Brady: I walk around with $5 million in cash in
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: my bag
Mike Smith: to go to the casino because
Nathan Brady: with
Mike Smith: of
Nathan Brady: my
Mike Smith: uh
Nathan Brady: passport
Mike Smith: Easter holiday family
Nathan Brady: because
Mike Smith: stuff.
Nathan Brady: of
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Easter
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: egg rolls.
Mike Smith: Yes.
Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: That's what I called them.
Nathan Brady: um okay, let's let's keep going. I don't have an update, by the way, on Madawi. Um and I would like to um
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: just that they they filed uh I have I have an update. He he
Nathan Brady: okay
Mike Smith: is in Louisiana. The judge is is basically furious that they they uh took him there from Vermont. They're trying to get him to go back to Vermont, which is the appropriate place apparently. I write
Nathan Brady: all right
Mike Smith: Vermont. I think I
Nathan Brady: yes

00:32:17

Mike Smith: think it's Vermont.
Nathan Brady: Vermont is where he was. Uh yeah because I remember he reached out to Bernie Sanders and others
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: right
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: before
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. right before he went uh to this thing. So,
Mike Smith: Right. And so the latest filing was basically that the judge had ordered them to to bring him back to Vermont and the Trump admin lawyer's response was where do you get off ordering me you a judge and then
Nathan Brady: yeah, yeah,
Mike Smith: like
Nathan Brady: yeah, yeah.
Mike Smith: I wonder how that's going to go.
Nathan Brady: Um, look at this nerd wearing
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: Trump
Mike Smith: my
Nathan Brady: was
Mike Smith: god.
Nathan Brady: right about everything hat. I saw this hat the other day and I just wanted to slap the guy. Um, this is so stupid. Um, as Tesla profits plunge 71%. That makes me that makes me smile every time I read it. Um, Elon Musk says he'll spend less time on Doge.

00:33:09

Nathan Brady: Um, fill
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: fill me in. What's going on here?
Mike Smith: Here's what I want to say. Okay.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: If I'm the CEO of of GM Motor Company,
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: right,
Nathan Brady: Yep.
Mike Smith: and I have a quarter where profits drop 71%. You're not
Nathan Brady: And
Mike Smith: going to
Nathan Brady: it's
Mike Smith: get a
Nathan Brady: likely
Mike Smith: res.
Nathan Brady: your fault.
Mike Smith: You're not getting a resignation letter from me. You're finding me hanging from the rafters in my in my condo. That's
Nathan Brady: Right. The board of directors
Mike Smith: that's
Nathan Brady: will hang you. They will have you hanged.
Mike Smith: you.
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: You're not You're not getting away from that one.
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: Uh but
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: you know, because he thinks himself some sort of king, he he's just gonna go back to work and
Nathan Brady: well, I will I'll push back
Mike Smith: stock
Nathan Brady: a

00:33:47

Mike Smith: owners
Nathan Brady: little bit
Mike Smith: won't
Nathan Brady: on
Mike Smith: care.
Nathan Brady: this. If your if if you if you ran a normal company and your profits were down plunged 71% due to your leadership, the stock price would also asmtoically
Mike Smith: We're almost
Nathan Brady: reach zero. Right? So the what I what the reason why he's not hanging from any raptors right now is because for some reason the stock price does not reflect the reality of the situation at Tesla and the
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: fact that as long as Elon Musk is in charge this company I don't think we'll be able to turn it around.
Mike Smith: H I completely agree.
Nathan Brady: Um and I I was a huge fan of Tesla. Um I never really followed Elon Musk that much but I really wanted a Tesla. I love the idea of electric vehicles. I I had been thinking about solar vehicles before electric
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: vehicles were
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: thing.

00:34:39

Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I like love this technology and bought a Tesla before Elon went insane and now I will never buy a Tesla again. I
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: will never do it again. I This is my
Mike Smith: No. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I can't wait to get out of this car. I am trying. I am I'm stuck 30k in it still and I cannot get I cannot get what used to be the blue book value for it. I don't even know what the value
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: for it is
Mike Smith: yeah.
Nathan Brady: anymore,
Mike Smith: No.
Nathan Brady: but I I couldn't even get half that right
Mike Smith: Yeah. I
Nathan Brady: now.
Mike Smith: know. Well, and and you're lucky you're not driving a Cyber Truck because the the KBB
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: doesn't even come close on that.
Nathan Brady: what the f***? Can
Mike Smith: Um,
Nathan Brady: Can you even drive a Cyber Truck? Is that even possible? Is
Mike Smith: can

00:35:18

Nathan Brady: like
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: is that one of their features? No. Is it one of the features of
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: the Cyber
Mike Smith: think it's like
Nathan Brady: Truck?
Mike Smith: a Nickeola. I think you put it on a hill and it kind of little red wagons
Nathan Brady: It rolls.
Mike Smith: its way
Nathan Brady: It
Mike Smith: down.
Nathan Brady: rolls.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Gravity. Yeah,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: gravity powered vehicles. Um,
Mike Smith: So,
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: I just looked it up because I I was curious. We've talked about this a few times and I have a few sources. I was just asking uh what what sort of ownership on the stock Tesla stock is there and it says that it's it's roughly 40% maybe a little higher is uh retail investors. So that's that's a really large swath of of your uh your market being retail investors. And if all of them are sort of just meme investors, you know, they just think that we like it because we like it.

00:35:59

Mike Smith: That insulates it a lot from any
Nathan Brady: They're the hodlers.
Mike Smith: actual
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any actual institutional investors being like, "Oh, wow. 71% plunge. I better sell this." And these meme investors are like, "Man, you're giving me a great deal on Tesla, which I love. I'm going to buy your your low price." And it just
Nathan Brady: There's
Mike Smith: it
Nathan Brady: gonna
Mike Smith: bounces.
Nathan Brady: there's there's a number there is a number where that is going to hurt more than it helps. like you know you hit like 190 180 um institutional investors they have to stick around they have to file things
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: they have to be like okay we have to make this
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: big thing
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: do we do we trade or whatever but that's when the retail investors like abandon ship and things things get even worse right
Mike Smith: Right. So, who

00:36:39

Nathan Brady: um
Mike Smith: do you think abandons first in the case of Tesla, retail or institutional? And in my view, if I'm an institutional investor, like if I'm who who was it? It was um
Nathan Brady: Kathy are you are
Mike Smith: yeah,
Nathan Brady: you talking
Mike Smith: QQQ
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: had it in the the portfolio for the longest
Nathan Brady: Arc.
Mike Smith: time, right? ARC
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: had it in
Nathan Brady: Yeah. But
Mike Smith: Is
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: it
Nathan Brady: think
Mike Smith: still
Nathan Brady: Arc
Mike Smith: in
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: there,
Nathan Brady: Kathy Wood um was like the big like oh Tesla's not even when Tesla
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: was obviously very overvalued. Um
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: this isn't this isn't in investment advice, by the way. We're both just uh regular. I mean I don't trade much. Um
Mike Smith: Angry guys for the podcast. That's
Nathan Brady: we're
Mike Smith: all
Nathan Brady: just

00:37:17

Mike Smith: we are.
Nathan Brady: we're just two angry guys with a podcast. Um listen. Okay, so Elon saying uh he's going to spend less time at Doge, but he he has to uh right his
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: his
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: legal I guess term limit as a special council or special government employee. Um it c is is up, isn't it? What is it? 160 days, 190 days,
Mike Smith: I think it's 130 days actually.
Nathan Brady: 130 days. Okay.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um and yeah, you can only you can only be that for 130 days in a 30 65day rolling period. So he's basically forced out and he's claiming on his way out if he if if he goes through with leaving that uh I think we talked about last week mission accomplished. We're going to unfurl
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: the banner.
Mike Smith: Yeah. We're going to have the mission
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: accomplished banner soon.
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: he's

00:38:08

Mike Smith: people are
Nathan Brady: claiming
Mike Smith: already starting to like do the tally work. They're being like, "Okay, well, this is where Doge has sunk its claws in, you know, here, here, here, and here, that if they cut, you know, 80% like they they claimed at the outset for all of these branches of government, this is how much money they could have theoretically saved the taxpayer versus how much they could have actually saved the taxpayer." And it's in it's not even it's it's a a very large value of zero. It's like, "Oh, you actually cut$4 billion dollars of the federal government and it's $200
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: trillion dollar annual revenue."
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: You're like,
Nathan Brady: so he's saying mission
Mike Smith: "Guys,
Nathan Brady: accomplished.
Mike Smith: that's not money. That's that's make believe. That's a rounding error.
Nathan Brady: He he got in front of a group the other day a couple of days ago where he said, "Hey, by the by by the time by May 1st we'll have saved, you know, it's $68 billion or something like that." which

00:38:59

Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: if he's saying that number, I'm sure that's
Mike Smith: It's
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: not
Nathan Brady: lie.
Mike Smith: that
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: high.
Nathan Brady: probably
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: half
Mike Smith: it's got
Nathan Brady: that.
Mike Smith: to be wrong.
Nathan Brady: Um, and he's saying like this is a big deal, like mission accomplished. When what he said was he was going to be first of all the most transparent agency ever, which was false. And then they were going to save $2 trillion by the time that he was done. And they have cut and find all the waste and fraud. Nobody has been arrested for fraud. Um, nowhere near $2 trillion. The least transparent agency we've seen some time. I mean, the CIA might as well be more transparent than Doge. Uh, I mean,
Mike Smith: Hey, but they did find those those, you know, eight people or whatever in the social security uh
Nathan Brady: those Yeah, those
Mike Smith: list
Nathan Brady: eight people.

00:39:40

Mike Smith: that were like 300 years old.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: So
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: that's
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. That we were definitely
Mike Smith: that
Nathan Brady: paying.
Mike Smith: probably that probably saved them like uh you know $17,000 a year.
Nathan Brady: It probably saved like like four like 40 cents in AWS for deleting those records from the from RDS. Other
Mike Smith: It
Nathan Brady: than that,
Mike Smith: probably
Nathan Brady: it
Mike Smith: didn't save anything because as we pointed out at the time, those probably aren't the right ways to view that data.
Nathan Brady: no
Mike Smith: So those people
Nathan Brady: that's
Mike Smith: might
Nathan Brady: not even
Mike Smith: actually
Nathan Brady: what that table
Mike Smith: still
Nathan Brady: was.
Mike Smith: be deserving of social security payouts, but
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: what do we know?
Nathan Brady: Uh so anyway, uh Elon's an idiot. Uh let's move on. What else do
Mike Smith: So
Nathan Brady: we got?
Mike Smith: is investors. I mean,
Nathan Brady: Huh?

00:40:17

Mike Smith: if again, if I see profits drop 71% in a single quarter, I don't understand how your stock price is this this high, I feel like I I again, we're not giving out uh investment information here, but something that I would definitely consider is is taking some short positions against Tesla because this is unsustainable. If this is how they're going to be doing moving forward, I don't care how much you love the stock, this is not a sustainable business model.
Nathan Brady: It's it's it's not um Okay. I can't I can't do the big screen thing because it messes up our our
Mike Smith: That's okay.
Nathan Brady: layout here. I'm gonna fix that. I'm gonna
Mike Smith: You're
Nathan Brady: fix that,
Mike Smith: muted,
Nathan Brady: guys.
Mike Smith: though.
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: So, get
Nathan Brady: sorry
Mike Smith: them
Nathan Brady: for
Mike Smith: unmute
Nathan Brady: the small
Mike Smith: first. Unmute
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: first.
Nathan Brady: wait. No, I think if you play it, it unmutes or No. Do we

00:40:59

Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: do this?
Mike Smith: don't
Nathan Brady: Okay. Who
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: knows?
Mike Smith: do this.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: You can have all the eggs you want. We have too many eggs. In fact, if anything, the prices are getting too low. So, uh, so I just want to let you know prices are down.
Nathan Brady: I think he goes on to say that prices are down. I know he goes on to say prices of eggs are down 94 96 in some cases percent. Okay. So if the co if the price of eggs was $6 and the of a dozen eggs is $6 and the prices are now down 94% that means your eggs now a dozen eggs cost 36. Is this is this correct?
Mike Smith: No, no.
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: This
Nathan Brady: not.
Mike Smith: is again, this is this is the same as our our episode from a couple of of weeks ago. We were like, "The president figured out you can go over 100%."

00:41:52

Mike Smith: Like, the guy does not understand what percentages means. He's just kind of stupid. Also, if you look at the at the cost sheets, I have them here from uh Nerd Wallet and a few other places.
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: I've got month overmonth average uh egg price per dozen. So, in December 2024, this is before Trump was was reelected, 415 for a dozen eggs. In January after he's elected, 4.95 in February, 5.90. And in March, 623. They've been on a steady almost 40 cent per month hike since he was elected.
Nathan Brady: Okay,
Mike Smith: So is
Nathan Brady: I'm
Mike Smith: that
Nathan Brady: gonna
Mike Smith: what
Nathan Brady: I'm
Mike Smith: does he
Nathan Brady: gonna
Mike Smith: mean by prices are going down?
Nathan Brady: Can I
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: Oh, I
Mike Smith: see
Nathan Brady: can't zoom
Mike Smith: this
Nathan Brady: in
Mike Smith: graph
Nathan Brady: like that.
Mike Smith: and I can tell this is a stock graph because they only go up.
Nathan Brady: I mean, can I do let me do the one year?

00:42:40

Mike Smith: This is the
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: other.
Nathan Brady: Okay. So, I'm I'm confused. So, uh
Mike Smith: This
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: is sourced out of the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Nathan Brady: Four
Mike Smith: That's great.
Nathan Brady: four. So, in January 490 495 prices are
Mike Smith: That's
Nathan Brady: going
Mike Smith: what I
Nathan Brady: down.
Mike Smith: have.
Nathan Brady: Now, I don't know how to read charts or line
Mike Smith: Okay,
Nathan Brady: line graphs, but
Mike Smith: let's
Nathan Brady: if I
Mike Smith: go.
Nathan Brady: hover over it, at least it will tell me a number. 587 622 I mean what is happening
Mike Smith: Prices are going down.
Nathan Brady: dude who who is like I so
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: Caroline
Mike Smith: I don't know.
Nathan Brady: Levit
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: will stand outside and they'll say you know they'll be like what did the president mean when he said when he said prices were going down and she'll say listen the president is doing a great job um in this economy right now which

00:43:30

Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: we we
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: we've picked up from terrible Joe Biden and blah blah blah, but he's lying. Like,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: does anyone
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: believe this?
Mike Smith: No, here's the thing, too, and we saw this in his first term as well, uh, because I want you to switch over to some other graphs in a second, but but
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: but right now, the important
Nathan Brady: Send me
Mike Smith: thing
Nathan Brady: some
Mike Smith: to
Nathan Brady: graphs.
Mike Smith: remember is that during campaign season,
Nathan Brady: Uhhuh.
Mike Smith: his lies are effective because they're disprovable. They're they're based on
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: vi based on feelings, right?
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: It's it's about sentiment more than anything. So,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: if I'm, you know, a regular US voter and and I struggle to pay for groceries and stuff, and we had that period in September with the high inflation, remember, and everybody's complaining about egg prices, that's all the dominated the news cycle for two weeks,

00:44:12

Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: and they're blaming it on Biden, right? I'm Trump and I'm like, Biden's economic policy, blah, blah, blah. Egg prices, blah, blah, blah, trans people. And then and and I'm gonna fix it. That like the lie is I'm gonna fix it, right? But now that he's in office, he has to make good on that and he can't because he does he knows he can't. There's nothing really he can do out of this except for like subsidize egg farmers if he could, but still have a supply and demand problem because the aven flu. Anyway, his he can't argue these numbers. People are like, "Oh yeah, egg prices are cheaper now." But no, nobody's saying that because you still have to go to the grocery store and buy them. And you're like, "God
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: damn, eggs are expensive. What is happening here?"
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: And you're starting to see that in his favorability numbers. He's starting to have the re, you know, the realistic response from the American voter uh base who are saying, "I thought egg prices were going down. When

00:45:06

Mike Smith: when does that happen?" And they're like, "Oh, President Trump's the best and this is still Biden's fault." And they're like, "I don't give a s***. $7 for eggs? What are you talking about?
Nathan Brady: All right, you've got me uh going over to uh look at his his uh job approval numbers. So, let's take a look.
Mike Smith: Okay,
Nathan Brady: And I'm I'm doing this live. Okay.
Mike Smith: let's do it
Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: live. We haven't looked at it together yet.
Nathan Brady: oh, wait. This is This doesn't look up to date at all. Um
Mike Smith: No, 11:26 isn't going to do it.
Nathan Brady: Oh, here we go.
Mike Smith: There's some
Nathan Brady: Here
Mike Smith: force.
Nathan Brady: we go. Here we go. Yeah. Okay. So, um
Mike Smith: Yesesh.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Yesesh.
Nathan Brady: This
Mike Smith: Okay,
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: Why
Mike Smith: going to
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: point out a couple of things.

00:45:51

Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: going to say that you Yuggov there is is what I would consider a very young left-leaning uh polling group. They they tend to have progressive style polling group that makes them come out a little bit skewed. Uh Raasmusen is the exact same thing but on the opposite end. They're the right-wing skew. And for them to only get a plus two
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: in the last week,
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: that's not good. That's not
Nathan Brady: Daily
Mike Smith: good for his
Nathan Brady: Mail.
Mike Smith: numbers at all.
Nathan Brady: The Daily Mail has only a 54% approval rating for Trump. The Daily Mail. So, uh, yeah, you can see the switch here, right?
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: The
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: the approval and things things have started to go south. Um,
Mike Smith: Well, I mean, that's the problem and this is what I'm saying is that he campaigned so hard on I'm going to get everything done day one and a lot of Americans gave him a little credence.

00:46:40

Mike Smith: They're like, "Okay, he's not going to get everything done day one. They can't even." So, they gave him all of March. They're like, "You get a month." And then you can see at the end of March, they're like, "All right, you couldn't do it. You're just a liar. You're another
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: one
Nathan Brady: this
Mike Smith: of those
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: politicians who just lies."
Nathan Brady: I mean it's it's straight up lies. It's straight up uh
Mike Smith: In
Nathan Brady: yes,
Mike Smith: fact, I
Nathan Brady: I've
Mike Smith: was
Nathan Brady: solved I fixed it. I fix the eggs.
Mike Smith: Yeah. And that's what they're going to do. They're going to They're going to start doing that. They're going to start being like, "What are you going to believe the the facts for me?" They're going to have that. They're going to have a mission accomplished banner like we talked about. Um the other interesting thing that I saw this morning I want to say was that his his numbers on um the view of his immigration policies in particular like how he's handling the deportations and everything have finally swapped on him.

00:47:26

Mike Smith: He's now in the negative even amongst his own base. And it's because he has all these these horrible stories of like we didn't even give this guy due process. We just kicked him out and sent him to a a goolog in in uh wherever in South America. And even even s you know just regular politically turned off Americans are like f****** did what now? Hold on.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Um,
Mike Smith: Thought you
Nathan Brady: okay.
Mike Smith: were just going to send them back to Mexico. I didn't understand you were going to put them in the death camps. What are we talking about here?
Nathan Brady: All right. So, Trump keeps lying. Uh, more news at 11. Uh,
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: let's let's
Mike Smith: but his numbers are reflecting it. I mean, that's the thing is as much as as much as we we are afraid of Trump doing horrible, horrible things, he has to have public support to do it. And and it was true the first time around, too, because he wanted to do the same sorts of stuff.

00:48:20

Mike Smith: He wanted to end birthright edition. He wanted to end Obamacare. He wanted to end all of these these social programs and he couldn't get support behind it
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: from any of the legislators for sure, but eventually the voter base stopped getting in line. And you just can't sell that. We're too big of a country. We're too many people for him to be like, I only have, you know, 42% of the 30% of the country who voted for me and and that's not enough.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: So, a little silver lining there.
Nathan Brady: Um, speaking of silver linings, uh, US appeals court upholds Massachusetts assault weapons ban. Um, well, I mean, this is great news. Um,
Mike Smith: It is
Nathan Brady: so, well, it's great news in particular because the appeals court has said it is not unconstitutional, right?
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: And
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: that sets the pacing for the rest of the country if that mattered uh to
Mike Smith: Yes.
Nathan Brady: the rest of the country.

00:49:23

Mike Smith: What's really interesting, I think, in this one is that they took it a step further than where California was. So, California had initially set up a ban like this, but it was it was framed as like a foot in the door bill where it was you're not allowed to carry concealed or otherwise these types of weapons. And so the idea was if you bought something like this at a gun show, it had to be deactivated at the gun show before you could take it with you. And you couldn't carry it in public and you couldn't take it out hunting and you couldn't you know what I mean? Because these are these are just weapons of war and their only suitable place is at the gun range for fun. Like that's if you're a gun lover, that's the only place that this gun makes sense. And so California tried to make that law stick and it was challenged all the way up to the US Supreme Court who agreed that it's fine. we can say you can't have these in in civil society.

00:50:15

Mike Smith: That's not where they belong. And we already had a a no concealed carry law on the books. And so now Massachusetts has taken the next logical step which is well hold on hold on. If they don't belong in society, we're just going to ban you. You know what? Nobody
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: You don't need them. You
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: don't need them. You don't need them. They're weapons
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: of war. They belong with the military and and you know, US armed service members. We don't we don't need them. You don't can't have them in your house. And I
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: think I you and I agree on it at the very least. We think that that's a that's a worthwhile law to have. And we're glad to hear that the uh the US Court of Appeals uh agrees with us. Now it's it's the it's first circuit court, so it's going to get appealed, but

00:50:58

Nathan Brady: It's going to it's going to keep going and um this may eventually hit the Supreme Court as well who have a number of other things on the docket. What a fun time. What a fun time,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah. I think that I think that this is a good one to put in front of the Supreme Court because there's such a a bevy of of case law that they're building off of that Supreme Court has already agreed with. And so even if you're like we're taking away rights of people ostensively, you can say like but we've all agreed that up to this point they don't belong in society and we're not really hurting anybody because you couldn't take them out or use them or whatever else. So, I think there's an honest to god argument to be made there. I would love although I wouldn't hold out hope if Scotas actually, you know, upholds this or or just flat out rejects to to hear the argument. They could just say appeals

00:51:51

Nathan Brady: That would
Mike Smith: has
Nathan Brady: be
Mike Smith: it
Nathan Brady: nice.
Mike Smith: I don't need to listen to this, which
Nathan Brady: That
Mike Smith: they've
Nathan Brady: That
Mike Smith: done in
Nathan Brady: would be
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: ideal.
Mike Smith: past. That would
Nathan Brady: So
Mike Smith: be ideal, I think.
Nathan Brady: So speaking of Massachusetts, my home state, um,
Mike Smith: Raw rah.
Nathan Brady: ha hav I'm gonna say I'm gonna say this exactly as I think Hav said this to the president of the United States. Okay? And this is how I would have heard in South Boston where I I was a couple years ago just walking walking around uh you know kicking rocks down memory lane. Trump came at them and said, "We're going to take your billions of dollars away from funding if you don't let us get our dirty little clause in here um so that we can we can uh set um course curriculum, we can we can gut DEI, we can do all of this stuff." and H Harvard said, "The f*** out of here with that s***, guy."

00:52:44

Nathan Brady: And that's how that's exactly how somebody on the streets of Boston would have said it. Uh, this is great. I I am
Mike Smith: it
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: is
Nathan Brady: am really impressed with their response so far. And now they're going one step further, farther, further, and
Mike Smith: further.
Nathan Brady: suing Trump.
Mike Smith: Well, I mean, it's the right thing to do. So, in a lot of these case, we have to understand the difference between how these these federal grants are doled out as opposed to like appropriations set by uh Congress. So, US A as an example has the grounds to make a lawsuit against Doge because they are given by law and Congress appropriations to run those those government uh uh funds however they need to to in in the spirit of of their agency. And so these are more like government um allowances for studies that are going to improve in like the fields of medicine or computer science or any of these other things. And and they aren't doled out by Congress.

00:53:51

Mike Smith: They're more like appropriations that they're like a discretionary funding basically. And so there's no legal obligation at that point for them to get to give this money. However, all of these universities and and everybody who's ever gotten a federal grant has always gone into contracts with the federal government to ensure that they're going to get paid their money. They're like, I'm not doing this work unless you're contractually going to pay me, even if you lose the next election and the next guy hates me. And so they've got a contract signed with somebody for for all of these various uh uh uh pieces of funding that they've been contractually obligated to be given by the federal government. And so instead of suing them for breaking the law that way, they're like they're reneging on their contract. We're going to get paid anyway.
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: It's
Nathan Brady: yeah,
Mike Smith: almost
Nathan Brady: there there
Mike Smith: an easier case to make.
Nathan Brady: well, there's there's a few legal arguments, I think, in this case, and one of them is uh that the that first of all, the government is using the funding to like as leverage to

00:54:55

Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: exert control, which you you can't do that. And so, they're claiming that it it the Yeah. I mean, um, I don't know who who the complaint is against. I I remember there was a couple of Yeah. Okay. It's right here. Uh, the
Mike Smith: It's
Nathan Brady: Department
Mike Smith: everybody.
Nathan Brady: of
Mike Smith: It's it's
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: all of
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: the the toadies you expect.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. The The
Mike Smith: It's
Nathan Brady: Department
Mike Smith: it's got
Nathan Brady: of
Mike Smith: RFK
Nathan Brady: Education.
Mike Smith: Jr. It's got Pam
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Bondi. It's
Nathan Brady: Health
Mike Smith: got Linda
Nathan Brady: and Human
Mike Smith: McMahon.
Nathan Brady: Services. Yeah.
Mike Smith: If you go down a little bit, it's got uh I saw Heg Seth. Yeah, Pete Haggth down there at the bottom. I mean, it's got everybody. I'm surprised that this fits on one page.
Nathan Brady: I I love it.

00:55:29

Nathan Brady: I absolutely love it. Um, so we'll see where that goes.
Mike Smith: Again,
Nathan Brady: Uh, I'm feeling pretty good about it. I mean, man, if if I was getting sued by Harvard, I would be a little bit worried because that's where some of the top lawyers from the country come from. Um, if you watch
Mike Smith: none
Nathan Brady: suits,
Mike Smith: of us
Nathan Brady: I don't know.
Mike Smith: none of us are lawyers, but an interesting
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: thing um wonder if I can say this. We had a client for a while who was a lawyer who liked to get into um s lawsuits, like bigger case lawsuits. And the way that this would work is that you would enjoin I mean you've you've gotten these emails before where you enjoin um a class action as a part of the wounded party, right? The party that was wronged. So Harvard has opened the door here and I wouldn't be surprised to hear other universities sign on to this as a class action because they're saying we universities who you know produce a public good in study of medicine and blah blah blah with the help of funding from the federal government are being harmed by this type of action.

00:56:36

Mike Smith: And so
Nathan Brady: right?
Mike Smith: I feel like you can just pile on here and make it even even more obvious to the courts.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Uh nearly 200 higher education leaders released a joint statement speaking out against it. Um so very likely something like that can happen. Now, unfortunately, this type of litigation can take years to play out uh
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: in federal court, and it will it's one of the other things that will likely hit uh the Supreme Court um if the Trump administration doesn't, which they often do, uh back down when they're when um they're being stood up against. I guess I guess it's to say they are bullies and stand your goddamn ground instead of you know pissing your pants because these guys they don't have a leg to stand on usually.
Mike Smith: They don't have a leg to stand on. And there's there's so many facets to this sort of political maneuvering that you don't think about or at least, you know, I don't think they think about. um if they go into a class action with these colleges, these colleges can weather it because if they lose their funding for these grant programs, they just close the grant programs, but they still run a profitable university and they still have donors from alumni

00:57:52

Nathan Brady: Well, that's
Mike Smith: and all sorts. They're gonna they're going to be fine. Those grants
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: and those people who were there on those grants won't be fine, but the colleges themselves will be fine and they'll be viewed in the in the correct light in the long run, right? because they will have stood up against this type of behavior.
Nathan Brady: I mean there
Mike Smith: But the
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: second
Nathan Brady: the the admiss admissions do you let me let me put it to you this way. I mean Harvard and Colombia are both schools that are very difficult to get into.
Mike Smith: Yes,
Nathan Brady: But
Mike Smith: they are.
Nathan Brady: but if comparing those two schools right now, which ones do you think will be more sought after, Harvard or Colombia? And I got a I have an idea of which, you know.
Mike Smith: Yeah, if I'm a lawyer, I might be thinking Harvard over Colombia for sure.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. If I'm if I'm a foreign if I'm a student on a a student visa,

00:58:36

Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: uh, and
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: not going
Nathan Brady: know
Mike Smith: anywhere
Nathan Brady: that
Mike Smith: near
Nathan Brady: Colombia
Mike Smith: Columbia.
Nathan Brady: is just is just wheeling you out and handing you over to ICE, um, I'm never going there, right?
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I mean, Colombia's foreign Colombia's foreign uh, student program is going to be done. I mean, it's crippled, right?
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Like, there's
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I I just don't understand how they how they move on from from something like that. So, I think what Harvard is doing is really smart. like you said about the donor thing, they've already I read a story where they've already reached out to their donors and I'm sure they're going to get a ton of support
Mike Smith: They're
Nathan Brady: um
Mike Smith: going to fund raise like
Nathan Brady: for
Mike Smith: hell
Nathan Brady: this.
Mike Smith: off of this.
Nathan Brady: Right. Right.
Mike Smith: It's It's going to be crazy.
Nathan Brady: So,

00:59:11

Mike Smith: The second thing that I wanted to touch on though are the the long-term optics on the opposite side. So, this is in the Trump bought admin side
Nathan Brady: Mhm.
Mike Smith: is that you have to remember that these guys campaigned with Elon and and all these guys on on cutting federal spending, wasting your tax dollars, right? At the end of uh a year, at the end of two years, at the end of the term, we're going to look at how much money they spent on lawyers doing these stupid lawsuits. And we're going to be like, you spent how much on on defense trying to bully universities because
Nathan Brady: Right,
Mike Smith: they're going to have to hire lawyers for this. They have
Nathan Brady: right,
Mike Smith: to they have to fight them
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: and that's
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: going to cost
Nathan Brady: mean
Mike Smith: taxpayer money.
Nathan Brady: I mean uh
Mike Smith: I'd
Nathan Brady: Doge
Mike Smith: rather
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: send kids to school than spend money on lawyers arguing with universities.

01:00:01

Nathan Brady: Doge is gonna spend Doge Doge isn't going to be able to cut as much as this administration is spending on lawyers and Trump's golf trips.
Mike Smith: Not
Nathan Brady: I mean
Mike Smith: even close.
Nathan Brady: I mean that that's that's why uh the deficit will only go go up uh under the Trump administration. We already know this. So, um,
Mike Smith: Amazing.
Nathan Brady: we have one one last story to talk about before
Mike Smith: Okay,
Nathan Brady: we go today.
Mike Smith: I'm ready.
Nathan Brady: Um, Kanye West dropped a new
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: album, our new song
Mike Smith: no.
Nathan Brady: called Cousins. Did you want to Did you I said before, Listen, guys, you have to know before we started the show today, Mike said, um, there's one thing I really really want to talk about, um, before we before we wrap up today. So, Nate, can you please fit this in? Um, can you please fit in the story about Kanye West and his cousin? I don't know anything
Mike Smith: No,

01:00:54

Nathan Brady: about
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: this,
Mike Smith: reading
Nathan Brady: Mike,
Mike Smith: I'm reading
Nathan Brady: so I'm
Mike Smith: my
Nathan Brady: gonna
Mike Smith: show
Nathan Brady: let
Mike Smith: notes
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: verbatim. My show notes said Kanye released a song. We're not going to talk about it. That's what my show notes
Nathan Brady: You don't
Mike Smith: say.
Nathan Brady: You don't want to talk about it. Listen, um, that man really needs to get some help.
Mike Smith: He needs Yeah, he needs therapy. He's uh if I mean I'm not going to tell you to go look it up, but he he made a tweet and and he he admitted some stuff that happened to him in his life and it it it paints a dark picture uh of what it must have been like growing up as Kanye West.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Um
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: and and and I'm only going to make this joke about it, okay? The South Park guys had it had the story way before anybody else.

01:01:39

Nathan Brady: wow.
Mike Smith: Isn't that amazing?
Nathan Brady: The fish dicks.
Mike Smith: The Yeah, gay fish.
Nathan Brady: I forgot all about that episode.
Mike Smith: I did too. I
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: was like, "Oh my god, they
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: called gay fish 20 years ago."
Nathan Brady: Like
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: listen
Mike Smith: mean, it's
Nathan Brady: in
Mike Smith: amazing.
Nathan Brady: and Okay. Um in all in all seriousness here, right? Um it sounds like there was some sort of sexual abuse going on.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: he
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: was a minor. He was 14. Um it sounds like it it's part of the reason why he's super messed up. I hope he gets the help he needs. But this is also the same guy that's tweeted he's a Nazi, that he's
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: he's tried to sell Nazi paraphernalia with his Super Bowl through Super Bowl ads. I mean, um, Kanye at present is not a good person.

01:02:28

Nathan Brady: Um, I don't
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: know
Mike Smith: just
Nathan Brady: if
Mike Smith: want to say
Nathan Brady: what he's
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: saying
Mike Smith: don't
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: know if he's
Nathan Brady: even
Mike Smith: not
Nathan Brady: real.
Mike Smith: a good person or not. Here's what I'm going to say. He has been
Nathan Brady: If
Mike Smith: doing
Nathan Brady: you say you're a Nazi, you're not a good person. So, I'm gonna argue I'm gonna argue with you on
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: that.
Mike Smith: not saying that what what here's what I'm saying. Okay, I'll take that at face value. Maybe he's
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: not a good person, but I will say that he's been doing a lot of like uh questionable risque acts lately. Um, and I think it's mainly I I don't think it's mainly I have suspicions that it has to do with him sort of falling out of the public eye and not being as successful or as popular as vocal as he has been in years past.

01:03:12

Mike Smith: So I can see someone who is clearly and he's admitted this before. He's suffering, you know, a mental condition, either schizophrenia
Nathan Brady: Right, right,
Mike Smith: or
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: something. And I can see this person as as suffering illusions of grandeur but not seeing the results of that, but having an audience where all he needs to do is make enough noise to get back in the limelight. And so I could see a scenario where he's selling Nazi paraphernalia and claiming to be a Nazi and making stories in the on Twitter to try and and drum up some some interest in the Kanye story. I
Nathan Brady: I I
Mike Smith: don't know. We're never going to know.
Nathan Brady: could be could you could you could be right. But I have to say if if if it were me I it might be a different shocking thing that I would
Mike Smith: You're
Nathan Brady: release.
Mike Smith: going to take that one to your grave. Is that it?
Nathan Brady: I'm not I'm not sharing that one.

01:04:05

Nathan Brady: If that if that really hap there's two things here either it really happened which I wouldn't be sharing or he
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: made it up for clout and I don't I what
Mike Smith: Wait, why are you sharing that? Yeah, I don't know.
Nathan Brady: so uh wow um anyway
Mike Smith: God,
Nathan Brady: that's I think that's going to do it for today. Um I guess you know uh you should like and subscribe
Mike Smith: you
Nathan Brady: uh
Mike Smith: should
Nathan Brady: if
Mike Smith: like
Nathan Brady: you're
Mike Smith: and
Nathan Brady: not
Mike Smith: subscribe.
Nathan Brady: doing that. I don't think it costs anything on YouTube yet um to like and subscribe. So
Mike Smith: Not until
Nathan Brady: if you
Mike Smith: Elon buys it.
Nathan Brady: Okay, Elon. Yeah.
Mike Smith: Once Elon buys YouTube, then then it'll cost money to like and subscribe. But for now, just just do that.
Nathan Brady: And all we ask of you your one action item other than liking and subscribing. Your one action item is to write in the comments exactly what it is that you're working on uh that you're uh not working on that that you're uh that you have in your pockets.

01:04:58

Nathan Brady: C. I want to know how much cash. I want to know this is your this is this is your this is the thing you need to be working on for us. Tell us
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: how much cash you
Mike Smith: we
Nathan Brady: have
Mike Smith: need to know.
Nathan Brady: in your pockets. Tell me where where you're spending it today. Where are you going? Uh
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: anything else that's in your pockets. What do you carry in your purse? Do you carry your passport around with you at all times? We need to know these things. We're just going to
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: we're doing a little research. Okay.
Mike Smith: Do you
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: use
Nathan Brady: help
Mike Smith: a
Nathan Brady: us out.
Mike Smith: debit card when you
Nathan Brady: Do
Mike Smith: pull
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: out
Nathan Brady: use
Mike Smith: your
Nathan Brady: a debit
Mike Smith: $3,000
Nathan Brady: card?
Mike Smith: or

01:05:24

Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: do you write a
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: a check to cash?
Nathan Brady: Yeah. So, let let us know. Let us know. All right, until next time everyone. Thanks for tuning in to episode 40 of the Blue Sedition Podcast and we will catch you next time.
Mike Smith: Thanks everybody.
Nathan Brady: Bye. Good
Mike Smith: Good.
Nathan Brady: show.
Mike Smith: Good.
Nathan Brady: Good show. What is Tony saying?
Mike Smith: Ah, okay. Just gonna give that a thumbs up.
Nathan Brady: Who's Sultron?
Mike Smith: Sutron, it was the TDD that I did.
Nathan Brady: Oh, nice.
Mike Smith: I'm going to like repost with my thoughts. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just going to repost. That's what he asked for. I'm not going to write anything about that. Not gonna. Yeah, Alan help me. That's true. Forgot about that. Okay, it's annotating. Do we need to turn that off or
Nathan Brady: Oh yeah.
Mike Smith: And then, I