Tesla's Fires, Schumer's Failures, and mRNA's Future

Episode 35 March 19, 2025 1h 9m

From Tesla dealership fires, Schumer's failures, and mRNA's future

Episode Description

Mike and Nate dive into the mysterious Tesla dealership fires and controversial anti-Tesla billboards depicting Elon Musk giving a Nazi salute. They discuss the challenges Tesla owners face, including difficulty reselling vehicles and the Vancouver Auto Show uninviting Tesla. The conversation shifts to protest movements, examining the disproportionate responses to peaceful demonstrations and the January 6th Capitol attack. They provide updates on the Mahmoud Khalil case and criticize Democratic leadership, particularly Chuck Schumer, for disconnection from everyday Americans. The episode concludes with exciting developments in mRNA vaccine technology for pancreatic cancer, while expressing concern about RFK Jr.'s targeting of mRNA research and potential dismantling of the NIH, which could hinder critical medical advancements.

Transcript

00:00:00

Nathan Brady: like that little little noise. All right. And start the recording. Hey everyone and welcome to another episode of the Blue Sedition Podcast. I'm one half of the Blue Sedition Podcast, Nate Brady, and
Mike Smith: He's
Nathan Brady: my
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: other
Mike Smith: better
Nathan Brady: half,
Mike Smith: half
Nathan Brady: my better half.
Mike Smith: and I'm the
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: other half. Mike
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Smith, welcome.
Nathan Brady: What's going
Mike Smith: Welcome.
Nathan Brady: on, Mike? How's how's it going?
Mike Smith: We're doing all right. Um, a little tired actually, but we're doing all right.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, we're we're a day late on the pod, I think. Um Mike and I are are both exhausted from like regular work stuff, but also, you know, if you follow our Blue Sky account, uh we're also exhausted from the goddamn news. Um
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: which
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: I think most of you are. Um, well, we're probably we should we should probably talk to somebody.

00:01:01

Nathan Brady: We should get somebody on the pod um who can help us work through this because I got to tell you, I'm feeling like I'm not saying I would, but I'm feeling like throwing Molotov cocktails at a Tesla dealership. Like, I'm just saying I I
Mike Smith: hypothetically.
Nathan Brady: wouldn't do that. Hypothe
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: I would not do that because I hear
Mike Smith: we
Nathan Brady: that
Mike Smith: wouldn't
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: do
Nathan Brady: domestic
Mike Smith: it
Nathan Brady: terrorism.
Mike Smith: or condone it,
Nathan Brady: I wouldn't
Mike Smith: but
Nathan Brady: condone it, but
Mike Smith: but the feeling
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: that we're
Nathan Brady: feeling it's it's it's
Mike Smith: experiencing
Nathan Brady: the it's the it's Tesla burning down ideiation. I don't know, whatever
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: you want to
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: call it.
Mike Smith: It's
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: Yeah. It's like
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: being hungry. It's like
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: you you might not eat, but you kind

00:01:40

Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: of feel like you should
Nathan Brady: Uh yeah, you know, I wanted to talk about that later in the show, but let me just get it out of the way now. We have some we have some more important stories, but you know, um over the last couple of days, um I guess Have Tesla dealerships been spontaneously combusting? Like what's going on there?
Mike Smith: Yeah, the um I don't know. They've been catching fire and that's basically all I'm seeing in the headlines. I think that the they're probably from activists starting those fires, but I'm sure that Elon alleges that, but I haven't seen any news
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: to
Nathan Brady: I think
Mike Smith: that effect.
Nathan Brady: I think one vandal vandalist vandalismmer. Uh I think one somebody got caught in um Oregon maybe.
Mike Smith: Oh, I hadn't read
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: that.
Nathan Brady: and and I don't know. I didn't I didn't read anything into it. It's not like they had a man manifesto or anything. It's not like

00:02:33

Mike Smith: Right. All right.
Nathan Brady: when you go into a school and you shoot up, you know, a bunch of six-year-olds and then you have like a Trump manifesto and then that's just not domestic terrorism. But uh supposedly um Elon, Trump um and and those uh weirdos, they want, you know, anytime a Tesla blows up. Um I guess this is going to be domestic terrorism now.
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: I I don't know. I mean, so so there's two there's two things here. So the the one that just blew up. I don't know. A bunch of cars exploded at the Tesla dealership in Las Vegas overnight, 2 AM,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: whatever.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Um I don't think there's any more information on that one. I don't think they they have a suspect. The FBI um immediately started uh investigating it as potential terrorism. Of course, this is the FBI now under Cash Patel. Um, and I think there's there's three possible uh in my mind there's three possible scenarios that happened here.

00:03:36

Mike Smith: All right. What do you
Nathan Brady: Number
Mike Smith: got?
Nathan Brady: one, yeah. Okay. Um, there's some either opportunist or or yeah, maybe some left-leaning uh, you know, uh, vandal vandalist that's like, "Hey, I'm going to take advantage of this and and I'm gonna stand up against fascism and this is how I'm going to make my my voice heard on it." Um, second second option is this is just straight up insurance fraud. Um, and you know that the the dealership owner is going to be like, "What? Well, I might as well cash in on this." Um, only soon to realize that I don't think terrorism is covered in most uh insurance policies. So, we'll see how that goes. And then the third option is that Teslas just blow up sometimes. I mean, isn't
Mike Smith: Yeah, we did have that. And um I I I don't know. I'm less inclined to believe that last one. I do think it's funny to bring it up, but um um so just for context for people who are unaware because I don't know if this is like widespread news about Tesla, but they have long uh believed in in not having marketing teams.

00:04:50

Mike Smith: Like they don't run adverts on, you know, the Super Bowl or whatever. Like they
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: don't have employees whose jobs
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: are to market Tesla vehicles. And secondary to that is they also don't use traditional car dealerships as um their main preference of sale. They like direct to consumer sale. And in a lot of for those two reasons specifically, there aren't a lot of Tesla dealers. There just simply aren't. You can find a Kia dealer or Toyota dealer, you know, on every corner of of a of an office park, but but Tesla dealerships are sort of few and far between. Oh, we've put up a picture of the billboard.
Nathan Brady: Well, I'm just saying is this not this isn't this isn't you said Tesla doesn't have advertisers. Is this not an official Tesla ad?
Mike Smith: This is not an official Tesla
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: ad
Nathan Brady: All right.
Mike Smith: for the listeners
Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: at home. It says, "Buying a Tesla, you may be in for a Nazi surprise."

00:05:48

Mike Smith: And it's a wide angle shot of uh Elon giving the Nazi salute. They say Kyle there. Well, a fellow runs past it and
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: the hashtag
Nathan Brady: biting is
Mike Smith: I'm sorry,
Nathan Brady: biting
Mike Smith: not hashtag,
Nathan Brady: his bottom
Mike Smith: the ad
Nathan Brady: lip.
Mike Smith: sign overthrow Musk. This was run out of like the UK or something, right? This was like in in
Nathan Brady: I know
Mike Smith: Britain
Nathan Brady: there were
Mike Smith: or
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: something.
Nathan Brady: number of them in the UK um that was I guess crowdfunded. Uh, I
Mike Smith: Yes.
Nathan Brady: guess.
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: and they're they're facing an absolute onslaught of negativity in the UK. So, I don't think that uh I think like Germany said they're they're going to stop allowing Teslas to be sold and there's been a lot of negative stuff there.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. I mean, I'm
Mike Smith: Um
Nathan Brady: I'm It turns out I don't think Europe in general is too fond of uh this Nazi stuff, right?

00:06:33

Mike Smith: they
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: remember
Nathan Brady: don't I
Mike Smith: it
Nathan Brady: don't
Mike Smith: better than we do.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Um I I want to add to your list though. I want to
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: say that and I know I got to warn everybody. This is me, you know, tinfoil hat dawned. But is there a scenario in which Elon is trying to garner support by running a sort of false flag operation here? He's not going for the insurance money. He's trying to start a culture war.
Nathan Brady: No. So, I don't Yeah, that's a good question. I I that's I I kind of brought this up the other day because I don't think he has to. I mean, I think he is because every time something like this happens,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: first thing he does, look at his Twitter account, man. I mean, the first thing he does is call everybody on the left violent terrorists. And then

00:07:20

Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: every reply underneath it, if these are real real people still on that platform,
Mike Smith: Question.
Nathan Brady: every underneath it is, you know, um, every Democrat is evil. We need to get rid of Democrats. We need to get rid of these
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: pe I mean, they're inciting this. So, there may be it may very well be somebody on the left that is uh going after these these people. um but are going after these dealerships, but it's not everybody on the left, right? It's one person.
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: Um so yeah. Oh, my headphones just died. Fantastic. So, we're going to we're I'm going to switch headphones while we continue
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: here.
Mike Smith: Um
Nathan Brady: Put on the bulky stuff today.
Mike Smith: the the thing that I think is interesting about this whole thing obviously is that the the tonedeafness uh with which Elon approaches this matter. I think I saw a tweet, it was either this morning or late last night where Elon expressed shock to the even notion that he is, you know, disliked like at all.

00:08:33

Mike Smith: It was something like like his he had sort of an incredul like I I don't believe that anybody dislikes me. I've never made an enemy. And people on the left are going like, "What are you talking about?
Nathan Brady: It it it's hard to believe, right? Like I I I I watched a clip of him on Fox News where it was Yeah. basically that, but he but
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: but
Mike Smith: was it?
Nathan Brady: he's
Mike Smith: Yeah, you're right. Fox News. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. It was on I think it was on Hannity. Um and yeah, I mean I don't believe that he's that um what's the word? Aloof. Like I I think he understands that he's he's pretty widely disliked now. And I think he realizes that his the only people that like him are the people on the right. And he's gone from when I wanted to buy Twitter, I wanted to make it free and open and whatever and free speech, whatever.

00:09:22

Nathan Brady: And I want to make it uh politically um not ambiguous, but you know, he would uh politically indifferent. And then he he just fully leaned in to
Mike Smith: Yeah. Immediately embraced the fascists uh side of the right wing.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, so to your point, I don't think this is necessarily a false flag. Um, but I do think he is going to use every little, you know, oh, somebody tagged a car as like, okay, let me let me make a tweet that's going to garner a 100red million views because somebody tagged my Tesla and now everybody on the left is violent, intolerant terrorists. Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: I think it's funny, too. I think I shared this with you, uh, but there's a there are a fair few Tesla. We live in Southern California. There are a ton of Teslas out here
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: on the road,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: right? I am seeing more and more and I'm taking pictures of them and sharing them with you.

00:10:21

Mike Smith: Pictures of these people who own the Teslas who pepper the back of their Teslas with stickers that are like I bought this before he went crazy or like
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: you know Tesla owners against Elon and and and all sorts of things like that. It's really interesting to me to see um just like what's what's going on with that. Here's a funny story and this is this happened uh yesterday day before. There's a small like bodega grocery like in town that's like in the residential side of town, you know, that I'll stop by every now and again. And there's always a Cyber Truck parked in their little parking lot in the back. And I was like, who owns this thing? Like, is it
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: the owner of this bodega that owns this thing? I finally found out it's one of the like teller guys. um just a a guy who you know brings up groceries basically and he's
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: worked there
Nathan Brady: not pen
Mike Smith: for a

00:11:14

Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: few
Nathan Brady: teller.
Mike Smith: years
Nathan Brady: Okay. All right. I got confused
Mike Smith: like
Nathan Brady: for a second.
Mike Smith: sorry you know the guy who runs who who's who's just running the day-to-day operations
Nathan Brady: Yeah, sure.
Mike Smith: and he's a young guy like he's not even in I don't think he's in his 30s yet I think he's 28 or nine at the checkout and I'm asking him because I figured it out and he says he's like yeah I I put in the deposit for that you know way back when and he goes and they rolled it up one day and delivered it to me and I wasn't like I didn't know they were going to do this because they're so out of sorts and they refuse to take it back and now they're just like he's basically has to pay them and he doesn't have enough money to like have a lawsuit where he can't not pay and get out
Nathan Brady: Holy
Mike Smith: of this deal.
Nathan Brady: cow.
Mike Smith: Yeah, he's he's he's really mad about it too.

00:12:00

Nathan Brady: I mean, I' I've been trying to basically give mine away. I mean, I just want to get out of the loan and there's I don't have a lot
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: left on the loan uh
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: because I bought it um you know way
Mike Smith: a
Nathan Brady: before
Mike Smith: while ago,
Nathan Brady: uh and
Mike Smith: but you were the same deal where you had, you know, back way back before anybody had an inkling that Elon was a, you know, what he is, uh, you put down a deposit the same way to hold a space in line basically. And then
Nathan Brady: yeah,
Mike Smith: you got
Nathan Brady: it
Mike Smith: the car
Nathan Brady: took them
Mike Smith: took him
Nathan Brady: uh
Mike Smith: like three years or something,
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: mean
Mike Smith: thought
Nathan Brady: it took them a very very long time. Um, and I still got it before I want to say before Elon even purchased Twitter.
Mike Smith: Twitter. Yeah, you did.

00:12:37

Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: I think
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: cuz
Nathan Brady: So
Mike Smith: I remember
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: talking about that. Yeah,
Nathan Brady: and and then um you know and then all that happened. But so so I I it's mostly paid off and I still can't I don't think I can even get tradein value to like I can't give it to a dealership and be like take over the loan and take the car, you know, like they won't
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: even
Mike Smith: Because I don't think that dealers can resell them. Like I don't think maybe they can. I
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: think they
Mike Smith: I should look into that. But I think that there was there original not originally I think at some point on Tesla's arc there was some maybe it was just a boycott of the the national uh car dealers association where they refused to resell them. Maybe that
Nathan Brady: well
Mike Smith: was what I was thinking of.

00:13:18

Nathan Brady: actually we can we can talk about that real really quick as well. Um so the national uh car dealership association and in conjunction with the Vancouver Auto Show um have uninvited Tesla to their um to their biggest show in Vancouver. Um and basically they put out a statement saying um actually we gave we gave Tesla several opportunities to withdraw themselves before we had to officially
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: uninvite them. Um, and then they their their statement basically said not not for any of the reasons that we would like them to say, but they said for the safety of, you know, our, you know, you know, showgoers or whatever. Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: but I I mean I I think the the real message is uh we don't we don't want to support uh what's
Mike Smith: maybe.
Nathan Brady: what's
Mike Smith: But even if that's not the message, you a an easier message to stomach is one of well, we don't need protesters at this completely a-olitical car rally thing that we're holding.
Nathan Brady: which means protesting is working.

00:14:26

Mike Smith: That's what it means. Yeah. And it's
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: always this is why this is why the right always calls protesters terrorists is because
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: protests always work. they
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: always shine light on on you know the things in the dark and it just makes everything eventually come to to the light. So it's
Nathan Brady: And and the most common response to this is you'll get a picture of uh Nancy Pelosi and Kla Harris and you know whoever else in front of fires that happened during the um you know the the summer the summer protests for George Floyd, right?
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: Uh
Mike Smith: the BLM black
Nathan Brady: yeah. And and so the common response is like, "Oh, so you support this?" citizen. No, that's not the peaceful protesting that we
Mike Smith: Do I
Nathan Brady: all right.
Mike Smith: support
Nathan Brady: Settle settle down. We're
Mike Smith: Do
Nathan Brady: on
Mike Smith: I support what
Nathan Brady: Well,

00:15:11

Mike Smith: marching and protesting
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: peacefully? I definitely
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: support that.
Nathan Brady: That
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: do
Nathan Brady: support
Mike Smith: I do
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: I support people who are in dire straits, burning some property that belongs to mega corporations that don't give a s*** about that property?
Nathan Brady: No, you don't.
Mike Smith: I really
Nathan Brady: You
Mike Smith: don't.
Nathan Brady: don't.
Mike Smith: You can't make me cry over that. I'm
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: not going to do it.
Nathan Brady: I agree. You can't make me cry over it. That's not the me that's not the message that we're putting out there, though. The message is that protesting works.
Mike Smith: No, but
Nathan Brady: And you
Mike Smith: but
Nathan Brady: can
Mike Smith: but
Nathan Brady: see, I mean,
Mike Smith: like
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: you said at the beginning of the episode here, I'm thinking back to the the Black Lives Matter protests and and I mean, if you're going to call them violent protests perhaps.

00:15:57

Mike Smith: Uh we're in the middle of lockdown. We're stuck indoors. We're watching this these things, you know, happen live across the country and they're like, "Oh, they burned down the City Bank. It's it's terrorism." And I'm like, "My dude, you're you're jack booted cops just murdered a man. Which
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: one of these is terrorism? Nobody
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: died in that bank.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. And then and then during during a lot of those peaceful protests, uh people were injured by police. I mean, we remember we saw that old man that was uh shoved to the ground, cracked
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: his head open
Mike Smith: cracked
Nathan Brady: in
Mike Smith: his
Nathan Brady: front of
Mike Smith: head
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: open.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. I mean, uh and that was happening all over the country. So there were a couple of fires here and there, but that's what happens when you when you're met with the type of force that you know
Mike Smith: Yeah.

00:16:45

Nathan Brady: the government to and and
Mike Smith: And again,
Nathan Brady: then you see
Mike Smith: it's it's I see a parallel between that and what we always talk about when we're talking about like elections and the Democratic party where they're held to a different standard than their opposition,
Nathan Brady: yes
Mike Smith: right? Because like marchers are like they're violent. They're the and even when they're peaceful, they're violent, they're terrorists, they like cops shot him in the face
Nathan Brady: Mahmud
Mike Smith: with rubber
Nathan Brady: Khalil,
Mike Smith: bullets, blinded
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: a
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: kid. What?
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: How is that not terrorism? He was just
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: sitting there. We have it on video. people sitting in a in a circle chanting while the cops pepper- spray them in the face. How is that
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: not terrorism? Like,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: but they're doing nothing wrong.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: So, I don't want to hear about it.

00:17:22

Mike Smith: I don't care if you burn down a bank for
Nathan Brady: But
Mike Smith: that.
Nathan Brady: then, but then I want to say that um the the the style of protest needs to meet the moment.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: And at some point a march and sitting in the circle and singing is not going to be the appropriate response to what's happening.
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: if
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: I mean
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: it's it's it's going unfortunately
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: the the police state and the right generally are going to keep escalating.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: It's what they do.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: Take the situation, people are pro peacefully protesting and they escalate. They say, "Oh, it's terrorists. It's anti-Semitic. They're, you know, against the cops. They're against status quo. They want to turn the fish gay, whatever they're gonna say.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah.
Mike Smith: And they they escalate and tensions rise and you have people, you know, on the right who hear these things and become counterprotesters.

00:18:23

Mike Smith: And that usually means that they drive their car through people. But like that's another escalation. And I agree at some point these peaceful protests are going to stop being so because
Nathan Brady: right
Mike Smith: you have escalated to this, you know, to a point of no return.
Nathan Brady: where there's no nothing else to do.
Mike Smith: What
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: else? What else can you do?
Nathan Brady: yeah, and I think as you alluded to with the peaceful protest and I was saying Mahm Khalil is the is the same thing. I mean
Mike Smith: Y
Nathan Brady: at some point the government is going to say even your peace peaceful protest is illegal uh and your terrorists
Mike Smith: yeah,
Nathan Brady: and you
Mike Smith: there
Nathan Brady: know
Mike Smith: was there was a statement this morning. Somebody went on Fox News and I'm trying to remember who. I don't think it was Holman, but it may have been. It's the kind of dumb thing he would say. And it was basically like this person isn't a US citizen, so they're not afforded the rights of of uh peaceful protest.

00:19:16

Mike Smith: like that that you know the first amendment right to to gather and protest is not afforded to people who aren't American citizens. Like they have a green card there. Like
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: what are you talking about?
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Um and there's never been such a distinction that American, you know, residents, green card holders aren't afforded the same rights under the Constitution. They absolutely are. Um so take let let's see that being taken up with the Supreme Court and see how they rule. All right. I shouldn't have said that. I'm actually kind of kind of worried. Um, but my, you know, Trump, Trump Trump wants to make not buying a Tesla an act of terrorism. You know, Elon is like, if you don't advertise with me, um, so so we're even getting to the
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: point where the supposed free market market lovers um, think that you exercising your rights in a free market um, are is an act of terrorism or or
Mike Smith: Right.

00:20:12

Nathan Brady: should be illegal, you know. So, and and this
Mike Smith: Storming
Nathan Brady: is from the same crowd that was like, I don't know, throwing cure eggs off a building or, you know, shooting Bud Lights. I mean, was that was shooting a
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: Bud
Mike Smith: capital
Nathan Brady: Light domestic terrorism?
Mike Smith: was was storming the capital domestic terrorism. Threatening to hang Mike Pence and and Nancy Pelosi domestic terrorism.
Nathan Brady: I mean, literally wheeling out,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: A
Nathan Brady: know,
Mike Smith: gallows
Nathan Brady: gallows
Mike Smith: a homemade gallows
Nathan Brady: from my
Mike Smith: for them. You're like that feels like domestic
Nathan Brady: uh
Mike Smith: terrorism to me.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. I mean, I I think unfortunately it's been six years or longer of words no longer have meaning. Um, I mean, maybe it's I guess like eight or nine years of words just don't mean anything anymore. I feel like coup doesn't mean anything anymore. Terrorism doesn't mean anything anymore.

00:21:01

Nathan Brady: Uh, you know, none of these words mean anything anymore.
Mike Smith: Terrorism hasn't meant anything since George Bush's era. I think whenever
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: I think of
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: terrorists, I'm like, unless you're flying planes into buildings, it's hard for me to take you seriously as a terrorist.
Nathan Brady: Okay, that's
Mike Smith: I don't know.
Nathan Brady: all right. That's
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: statement.
Mike Smith: have I have I'm gonna transition here. I have an update
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: on uh on on Mammud Khalil. He
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: they have uh officially moved the judge in the case um basically withdrew it and and had uh changed jurisdiction from uh the United States District Court, Washington DC to New Jersey, which is where he was being held at the time that the uh uh temporary restraining order was placed. So that he should be in in custody until until you know the court works out whether or not he's being legally deported ostensibly or even legally detained.

00:22:00

Mike Smith: There's no charges for anything yet. So there's questions there. Uh this case has been kind of silly from the outset.
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: um the US government, the Trump administration had argued that that the judge's order that he remained in custody in in um at the time it was DC was moot because it was an oral order as opposed to a written order and that didn't sit well with the judge who was very upset at that. And now uh they've decided that okay, he was he was being detained in New Jersey. He was not on a plane at the time that the the temporary restraining order is placed. So he should be remanded back to New Jersey, which is closer to his home, obviously, and then the case will proceed in that district court, which I think most people think will be more favorable for Khalil than in in Louisiana, wherever he's being
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: detained presently. So that's
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: that's a bit of it's a bit of good news for him, I think.

00:23:05

Mike Smith: Now, of course, they still have to move him back to New Jersey. Will they follow a court order? They should.
Nathan Brady: Um, I I did notice that he uh at least got to speak on his own behalf for the first time. Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah. He was given, I think, pen and paper and he was allowed to write a statement and and deliver that to an intermediary who had who would get it to his lawyer and then that was released publicly two or three days ago. It's hard to tell at this point.
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: Um, and he was I mean, you know, in in keeping with his uh his persona of, you know, civil uh duty, he's he's calling out the conditions that detainees in his current position are undergoing. He's saying these people are being treated horribly and they need support and and and he's he's less, you know, championing his own um his own lot in life and the conditions under which he's being held, but he's saying like everybody else is being held terribly.

00:24:12

Nathan Brady: Right. Um, yeah, we have some some I wanted to read a piece of that
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: from his letter. I was trying to find the letter in full, but I think I have uh No, I guess it's not here. But yeah, to your to exactly to your point, he was saying, "I'm watching the quiet injustices that are happening, you know, around me to many to many people." Um I'm s I'm honestly surprised that letter was even allowed uh allowed out
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: of the facility.
Mike Smith: Yeah. He he's he his opening message basically says that he was targeted for advocating for Palestine for Palestinian causes. Um, like I have I have a uh a link from NBC that I can share with you and you can get it
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: up there if
Nathan Brady: I've
Mike Smith: you
Nathan Brady: got up the the the full
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: letter now.
Mike Smith: Oh, good. Good.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Great.
Nathan Brady: Um, uh, I can't find exactly

00:25:16

Mike Smith: I mean,
Nathan Brady: where
Mike Smith: it's
Nathan Brady: it
Mike Smith: five
Nathan Brady: was.
Mike Smith: pages.
Nathan Brady: Oh, that's why. Oh, that's why he continued it on the next page.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah, I'll I'll say he here's a quote from him. Who has the right to have rights? It is certainly not the humans crowded into the cells here. It isn't the Sangalles man I met who had been deprived of his liberty over a year. His legal situation in limbo and his family an ocean away.
Nathan Brady: Man,
Mike Smith: Yeah. So there's there's a lot of uh bad going on there obviously,
Nathan Brady: there's a lot of bad going on here.
Mike Smith: but you know, again, if if he can if he is remanded back to New Jersey and his court case taken up there, he's probably got a pretty good chance of being, you know, released on bail as a non-violent I can't even say criminally. They haven't alleged any crimes against

00:26:10

Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: him yet.
Nathan Brady: there's no crime. There's no crime.
Mike Smith: He's just being detained illegally.
Nathan Brady: Yes, it's an illegal detainment, you know. And the thing that worries me, like, you know, as as you pointed out, Khalil talks about this man that he met that that's been there for uh, you know, a year.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um, we we don't know about him. I mean, maybe we do, but Khalil's
Mike Smith: No,
Nathan Brady: just the
Mike Smith: he
Nathan Brady: most famous, you know.
Mike Smith: Yes.
Nathan Brady: Well, my my my point being there are so many injustices that have already happened even under the previous administration and now worse under this current administration. We not only can't keep keep up with them all, but there's probably so many that we'll we'll just never know about because no, you know, that person's wife wasn't there to see them uh you know, get disappeared, you know,
Mike Smith: Well, and and they weren't I mean, you know, honestly, he was sort of targeted specifically
Nathan Brady: right?

00:27:00

Mike Smith: by the right. There was a big
Nathan Brady: publicly
Mike Smith: uh
Nathan Brady: targeted.
Mike Smith: campaign on
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Twitter of people like adding Marco Rubio going,
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: "Hey,
Nathan Brady: mean, we
Mike Smith: this is the guy. Go get this guy.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, we talked
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: about the pro-Israel group that uh Betar, I believe it was, that
Mike Smith: right,
Nathan Brady: had um a hand in doxing him um tagging ICE and Marco Rubio and and calling for his department. And that same group, by the way, sent a list of names
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: um to the State Department. And as far as I understand it, some of those people um have already been nabbed by ICE. Some have self-deported once realizing their names were on that list. Um so it's terrifying that it's working for uh for that group. And well, I mean,
Mike Smith: It is, but also I think it speaks to the greater harm that you're talking about here.

00:27:54

Mike Smith: I mean, these are people who are not being given due process in any way. They're just being disappeared. Basically,
Nathan Brady: yeah.
Mike Smith: I shows up, they throw them in a van, and then most people don't have the celebrity, for lack of a better way of stating it, that Khalil
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: does. So,
Nathan Brady: Exactly.
Mike Smith: they're not getting news coverage. They're
Nathan Brady: Exactly.
Mike Smith: not getting people sharing his story thousands and thousands of times on social media.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: These are people that just get disappeared, don't get to call their lawyers, don't get to have their day in court, and we don't know what happens to them.
Nathan Brady: So, I I want to roll that into kind of our next story. Um, which basically uh simmers around what are we doing about it? By we, I guess I mean Democrats, our
Mike Smith: Okay.
Nathan Brady: leaders,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: what what I mean what are we doing about what are we doing about anything? What tell me what what's Chuck Schumer doing right now?

00:28:53

Mike Smith: I'll tell you what Chuck Schumer is doing.
Nathan Brady: Okay,
Mike Smith: Chuck Schumer is taking the advice of the raging cinjun himself, James Carville, and
Nathan Brady: he's dead.
Mike Smith: playing dead.
Nathan Brady: Oh, he's
Mike Smith: Like,
Nathan Brady: not he's not just dead. He's playing
Mike Smith: not
Nathan Brady: Okay,
Mike Smith: actually
Nathan Brady: he's playing
Mike Smith: dead,
Nathan Brady: dead.
Mike Smith: just pretending to be dead.
Nathan Brady: Might as well be.
Mike Smith: Yeah. Carville,
Nathan Brady: Because
Mike Smith: I think we brought this up on the pod last week, but Carville's recommendation as a not very good political analyst and strategist, is for the Democrats to let the Republicans hang themselves and then swoop in after the fact and take everybody back to where we were two years ago in the middle of Joe Biden's presidency when everything was great. Except for that everything being great part because
Nathan Brady: yeah,
Mike Smith: everybody hated it.
Nathan Brady: yeah. So, well, first I think it let's set the stage for people to understand the current hatred for Chuck Schumer.

00:29:44

Nathan Brady: And I think one of the things that people may not know is is a little bit of the insider politics that happened recently with the uh continuing resolution and Chuck Schumer supporting that and eventually
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: getting other Senate Democrats to support that. Chuck Schumer publicly and and behind closed doors stated that he would not support um the the CR and he spoke to to Democrats and rallied them to come out publicly and say the same thing, including those I don't want a JetBlue premier card. Thanks. Including those uh people that are in difficult um races that'll be coming up in the in the midterms. Um, and so those people rallied behind Chuck Schumer and then Schumer at the last minute at the 25th hour, he changed his mind. Uh, and that ruffled a lot of feathers. Not only was that was it what we we believe and a lot of uh a lot of people, a lot of Democrats believe to have been the wrong move in general, but he also burned his own party in doing so.

00:30:52

Mike Smith: He just he acts he's just such a disappointment as as a Senate Senate uh minority leader. He's he doesn't lead and he's out of touch and I I keep screaming it. Everything he says and does is completely out of touch with everyday working Americans.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: He just he can't see it because he's part of this elite class. He and Nancy Pelosi and and many of these other Democrats in their 70s for whatever reason who are elected officials, they're rich. They're
Nathan Brady: They're
Mike Smith: extremely
Nathan Brady: rich.
Mike Smith: rich and they
Nathan Brady: Extremely
Mike Smith: don't they
Nathan Brady: rich.
Mike Smith: don't deal with the same problems the American people do. And they're like, "Oh, well, the American people will do like I say cuz I know the best. I'm the best. I know."
Nathan Brady: Well, well,
Mike Smith: And they never ever do. They're always wrong.
Nathan Brady: well,
Mike Smith: It's
Nathan Brady: it's
Mike Smith: just
Nathan Brady: not that they're wrong.
Mike Smith: always

00:31:44

Nathan Brady: I mean,
Mike Smith: wrong.
Nathan Brady: at some point, we have to realize they're not wrong all the time. They're just protecting themselves. So, so Chuck Schumer, for instance, has 60 some odd million dollars in real estate holdings, um, among, you know, a wealth of other what whatever that he has. He's going into this uh with President Trump calling him, you know, a Palestinian, not a Jew anymore.
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um, you know, probably who knows what they're saying to him behind, you know, behind the scenes, uh, with threats from Cash Patel and Pam Bondi or whatever. These people do not care about you. They're submitting to the threats of their wealth being taken from them or they're ju they're just trying to protect their best interests. At the end of the day, they're not doing what's right for the country. They're doing what's right for themselves. I mean, that's that's
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: bottom.
Mike Smith: I mean obviously, you know, uh Schumer wants to keep his position as either a minority or a majority leader in the Senate.

00:32:41

Mike Smith: Senate's a cozy job. You don't have to do anything. You get to be out doing your book tours when you're not up for reelection, selling books and making money, probably doing some
Nathan Brady: doing
Mike Smith: insider
Nathan Brady: your doing
Mike Smith: stock
Nathan Brady: your real
Mike Smith: trading,
Nathan Brady: estate deals, doing
Mike Smith: allegedly.
Nathan Brady: your insider stock trading. Allegedly
Mike Smith: Um, yeah, but you know, you never want to get anything to a vote. You just don't do it. I I remember uh he was they were talking about the continuing resolution to fund the government and they had a House bill like you were saying and he's like, "Well, we're never going to support that. That's that's crazy. I like the Senate bill version better." They looked at the Senate version and it's no better. It's the same thing. It's it's the same recommendation, the same payments and here and there. They're still cutting the Department of Education. They're still cutting, you know, Medicaid and Social Security at the end of the day.

00:33:28

Mike Smith: And so he just gives up instead of instead of allowing the government to shut down for the Republicans to feel some uh pressure to actually reach across the aisle, he's like, "Don't don't get up. Don't get up. I'll reach across the aisle. I got you, buddies." And then does it.
Nathan Brady: And then there's still And then they still talk.
Mike Smith: And then they shame they sh Oh,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: shame on you. Shame on you for wanting me to do more.
Nathan Brady: Literally nothing we could do after refusing to do the thing that he could literally do.
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: Uh,
Mike Smith: we
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: have no power here. He's the one who has the power
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: and
Nathan Brady: mean it
Mike Smith: he
Nathan Brady: has
Mike Smith: does
Nathan Brady: to stop.
Mike Smith: and and he elected to do nothing terrible.
Nathan Brady: The the the the Democratic leadership and the establishment is so out of touch.
Mike Smith: It needs
Nathan Brady: It

00:34:13

Mike Smith: to
Nathan Brady: is
Mike Smith: change.
Nathan Brady: it it it needs to change. Um
Mike Smith: I mean, we've been saying it for years, but but the example after example of of just being completely untethered from reality. Chuck Schumer thinks that it's all going to go back to normal. And he thinks normal is good when so many people across this country were like, "Normal sucks s*** so badly that I'm going to vote for Trump."
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: So, he's like, "I want to go back to that. I want people to think that everything sucks so bad that they would vote for this psychopath. That's what he wants. That he thinks it's good. What is
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: this? What am I looking at here?
Nathan Brady: so listen guys, I I mean some of you don't want to hear from Bernie Sanders and I don't really give a s***, okay? He is the he's he's 80 years old and he is on the week on nights and weekends when he's not on on the floor.

00:35:07

Nathan Brady: He is literally out in away from his home. He's in Wisconsin. He's in Montana. He's in Michigan. He is everywhere speaking up, rallying people, explaining to people what's going on, fighting the oligarchy, calling it an oligarchy, which I don't think uh Chuck Schumer I don't think those words have ever come out of Chuck Schumer's mouth. Um,
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: and now, um, there's there's
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: some
Mike Smith: he's
Nathan Brady: new
Mike Smith: part
Nathan Brady: posters,
Mike Smith: of it.
Nathan Brady: some new flyers coming out where apparently AOC is going to be joining him, um, in some upcoming events in Vegas, in Arizona, then in Colorado. Um, first of all, just look at this Thursday, Friday, Saturday. I mean, this guy, he's in he's in Vegas. He's in Nevada and then Arizona in the same day. He's then he's going to Colorado the next day. Then he's going back to Arizona the next day. He's going with AOC. I mean, these people are out there fighting and there are people that understand what at at the very least the working class needs to needs to hear.

00:36:12

Nathan Brady: You know, you can argue all you want about whether Bernie really means what he says or like whatever, but it's a message that resonates with the working class. Um, and and now AOC, who who by the way is also, I think, one of those rare Democrats that seems to just get it most of the time. I was I was really disappointed initially with her um uh I guess lack of of backlash for for the the Israel Palestine,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: you know.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um, and
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: you know, Bernie
Mike Smith: and and
Nathan Brady: Bernie
Mike Smith: the letter the
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: letter specifically she didn't sign it. We don't know why. We
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: don't have any
Nathan Brady: she
Mike Smith: visibility.
Nathan Brady: ended up signing another letter for for Khalil specifically, but I'm I'm
Mike Smith: Oh,
Nathan Brady: talking
Mike Smith: okay.
Nathan Brady: even more so when when there was um uh funding bills going on for,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: you know, to send more more weapons to Israel.

00:37:06

Nathan Brady: But Bernie Sanders, of course, has always been, you know, very upfront. Bernie Sanders will outright, you know, stand up. When Netanyahu was coming to the White House or giving an address to Congress, he said, "Well, this is ridiculous. Netanyahu is a work is a war criminal.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: uh he's the only one that will say it. A Jewish senator uh in the United States government is the one that has to say it and and it's ridiculous. Um and and you can look up who's getting money from Apac and understand why some of these other senators aren't saying it, right?
Mike Smith: Yeah, sure.
Nathan Brady: Um so anyway, I just want to point out that not all Dem leadership is awful. Just about 95% of them. So,
Mike Smith: Just
Nathan Brady: uh,
Mike Smith: the ones that have been in office over 20 years.
Nathan Brady: ju just those. So, I don't know what we got to do. Um, but I think that, you know, there there was talk of AOC primarying uh Chuck Schumer.

00:38:03

Nathan Brady: Um, which I think is interesting, but I'm not sure that's where I want AOC. Um,
Mike Smith: Really?
Nathan Brady: oh, I I well I I want her I want her eyes on 2028 and I don't care that she doesn't have more experience in the federal government because look what we have right now. Um, you know, you can't say that somebody with no experience can't be president because that happened. A guy who who was firing people on a, you know, on a reality TV show only a couple years before became president. Um,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: so I'm not worried about that. That's just a talking point from people that don't want to see her uh in an establishment role. So,
Mike Smith: Yeah. I'll point out that she would be basically the youngest presidential candidate in like the last 40 years.
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: But
Nathan Brady: mean
Mike Smith: maybe we need some of that. Maybe we actually need somebody who's closer to everyday Americans and their lives. We obviously have this problem with, you know, 80-year-olds telling us what's best for us, uh, and being wrong constantly.

00:39:10

Mike Smith: So,
Nathan Brady: Yeah. And and and I don't think it's I want to clarify, at least for me, it's not an aegis thing for me. I don't think it's so much it's it's an 80-year-old like Joe Biden. I think it's somebody that has been in government for 40 years
Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah,
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: sure.
Nathan Brady: has forgotten maybe why why they were doing this in the first place or has lost touch with um the the actual problems the working class has faced. Somebody like AOC who is both young, hasn't been in the government for long, has been screwed over by the establishment on multiple occasions, and is very very close to what workingclass Americans have have faced recently as somebody who was a bartender, you know, working her way through college, etc. I think that person understands how these people want to be treated and talked to, you know.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: Well, I mean, it goes a long way, I think. I I would imagine with voters because of that relatability, right?

00:40:11

Mike Smith: You know, she's worked she's worked jobs that that these other people would consider beneath their station, right? Chuck
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: Schumer's never wor worked in a bar.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: He's never waited tables. He's
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: never changed oil or anything like that. Chuck Schumer went to fancy colleges and got a probably law degree and then decided to go into politics.
Nathan Brady: Well, wait a minute. He did share a flat, I think, in DC when he when he first got into politics. So, there was that.
Mike Smith: Flats. Come on.
Nathan Brady: Um, okay. So, uh, yeah, Chuck Schumer bad. Um,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: we need
Mike Smith: Chuck
Nathan Brady: we
Mike Smith: Schumer
Nathan Brady: need to do better.
Mike Smith: bad. Do better.
Nathan Brady: We we
Mike Smith: do
Nathan Brady: need
Mike Smith: better.
Nathan Brady: we need them leadership with it's the poke poking them with the stick meme.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: wake up.
Mike Smith: Do something.

00:40:54

Nathan Brady: Do something. Do something.
Mike Smith: Hey, do something.
Nathan Brady: Why does it taking this 80year-old man uh you know this one senator that's that's touring the country to why is
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: he the guy? Why does it have to be him? By the way, where's Kla? Where's Hillary Clinton? Where's you know Gavin Newsome doing a podcast with Nazis? Where
Mike Smith: we
Nathan Brady: are
Mike Smith: know where
Nathan Brady: where are
Mike Smith: this
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: is.
Nathan Brady: people who are we we are supposedly the leaders? Now I'm even doing Bernie hand quotes. were supposedly the leaders of the of the Democratic Party.
Mike Smith: the free
Nathan Brady: You know,
Mike Smith: world.
Nathan Brady: where where are they?
Mike Smith: Yeah. I don't know. I I I'm sort of thankful that I don't know where uh Hillary or Harris are. Uh I don't care. I'd kind of like them to just step away from public life for a while because I didn't like either of them as candidates.

00:41:45

Mike Smith: Um, but yeah, I mean, like, why don't we see more of these these uh uh town hall style events or these these rallies where where Bernie's talking and trying to to, you know, get energized the uh the electorate? Why don't we see more of that across the board?
Nathan Brady: Yeah,
Mike Smith: Why
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: isn't like I don't know who, but like why isn't Chuck Schumer doing that? He's doing a book signing deal at the moment, but like why why isn't he out there taking answers from everyday people?
Nathan Brady: Well, first of all, I don't want Have you seen Chuck Schumer try and rally or you Oh my god,
Mike Smith: You think
Nathan Brady: it is
Mike Smith: that's
Nathan Brady: it
Mike Smith: the other thing though, he's in a locked seat in an established uh uh political party of the Democrats, right? So he's he's in the locked the most locked seat of them all. He's in, you know, New York's oldest running Jewish left uh state rep, I'm sorry, Senate representative, not representative, senator.
Nathan Brady: Yeah,

00:42:46

Mike Smith: And no one's ever going to be able to unseat him until he wants to res uh uh retire.
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: So, he doesn't have to do town halls because he doesn't it doesn't matter how little he cares about you. His seat is locked.
Nathan Brady: Um, I have a video here that I wanted to play really quickly. Um, I'm just waiting for the ad to finish. Uh, which is from it said, "Can we play it again? Scott Jennings laughs at Schumer's chant." I mean, this is probably
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: one
Mike Smith: god.
Nathan Brady: of the awkward
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: ones I'm Yeah.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: We will win. We will win. We will rest. We won't rest. Um graduate
Nathan Brady: I mean, no, it's that that's it, though. I mean, that's exactly it. And
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: we saw
Mike Smith: god.
Nathan Brady: I I saw another one where he was he was trying to do the same thing.

00:43:39

Nathan Brady: He was like, "And we will." And and then it just it's so it doesn't resonate with anyone. It's so cringe. It's, you know, it's
Mike Smith: Do you even know what that rally was about?
Nathan Brady: I don't I don't know. I don't even know. But what what are they going to win? It was a month ago. What were
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: they
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: winning
Mike Smith: don't
Nathan Brady: a
Mike Smith: know because
Nathan Brady: month ago?
Mike Smith: it was after the election, right? So, I mean, maybe he's talking about the midterms, but like I
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: doubt
Nathan Brady: don't
Mike Smith: it.
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: Maybe
Nathan Brady: don't know.
Mike Smith: what he's saying is because he he said this, too, where he's saying like there's a lot of lawsuits out there right now because we, you know, the Trump admin is doing things that we all believe are illegal. And so maybe he's saying we'll win those court cases and they'll have to obey the law.

00:44:25

Mike Smith: It's a big if, but
Nathan Brady: Yeah. I mean, and you see like the next video it wants to play is people yelling at
Mike Smith: you're
Nathan Brady: at
Mike Smith: not fighting.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: you're not fighting. And it's it's true. Um, okay, we got to move on to our our next story here. Something that um is getting a lot of traction on our our blue sky. Also,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Democracy Docket, if you guys aren't following on Blue Sky, highly recommend. Um, Chief Justice Roberts rejects Trump's call for judicial impeachment. Huh? Huh? Wait,
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: can you can you
Mike Smith: a very funny one. I think
Nathan Brady: I mean so
Mike Smith: this this relates back to the the uh Khalil uh lawsuit that's currently ongoing.
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: Um, and the judge ordered them to, you know, remand him back to where he belongs. And the Trump admin is up in arms about how this unconstitutional judge is ruling from the judicial branch over the executive or some nonsense.

00:45:33

Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: And then Trump goes on Truth Social at like 3:00 a.m. or something and he's like, "We have to impeach that judge." and just such a stupid and and unserious party.
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: But yeah, then Chief Justice here, yeah, comes out and says, "No, no, actually, you shouldn't impeach judges just because you don't like the way that they've they've judged." He says, "We have the appellet courts for that. That's the process you should be talking about and taking, and we have 200 years of this working this way. You shouldn't be calling for this. It's it's not not good.
Nathan Brady: Interesting. So,
Mike Smith: And then and then Trump gets on Fox News and they bring that up and his his response was he wasn't talking about me. He was talking about something else.
Nathan Brady: Oh, I didn't know that.
Mike Smith: You you didn't see that? Oh my god, it was great. It may have been part of that Hannity uh interview, but yeah, he like he brought up the fact that Chief Justice uh Roberts had said this and it appeared to be in because he didn't call any he didn't say Trump by name, but he was seemed to be in response to the most recent big ticket item of Trump calling for the the impeachment of a federal judge and saying, "You shouldn't call for the impeachment of federal

00:46:46

Mike Smith: judges." And Trump goes, "He wasn't talking about me. He was talking about somebody else."
Nathan Brady: I mean, yeah, Robert statement
Mike Smith: like what?
Nathan Brady: came hours after Trump called for impeaching uh Judge James Boseberg um over the weekend who blocked the administration from using the Alien Enemies Act. Um so
Mike Smith: Oh, this
Nathan Brady: here
Mike Smith: isn't
Nathan Brady: it is.
Mike Smith: Khalil. Sorry.
Nathan Brady: No,
Mike Smith: This is
Nathan Brady: it
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: wasn't
Mike Smith: one
Nathan Brady: Khalil.
Mike Smith: where they're trying to uh they're
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: trying to deport
Nathan Brady: Although
Mike Smith: Venezuelan
Nathan Brady: to be
Mike Smith: gang members to where?
Nathan Brady: um to uh was it El Salvador? Where
Mike Smith: El
Nathan Brady: where are
Mike Smith: Salvador.
Nathan Brady: they going?
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Um
Mike Smith: To work in
Nathan Brady: to
Mike Smith: uh slave
Nathan Brady: work in
Mike Smith: labor camps.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. They're trying to sell slaves.

00:47:27

Nathan Brady: Um, so the it's easy to get confused because so far every judge that has ruled against the Trump administration, either Trump has directly called them out or Elon Musk has directly called them out and
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: said, um, this is a radical activist judge who needs to be impeached now. And by the way, just a quick aside, Elon Musk just did this today. He's trending on his own stupid site, which he often is, but for the wrong reason. And there's already a uh community note up on it because Musk called for it. Uh he said, "All we need is 60 senators to impeach this radical, you know, terrorist activist judge or whatever it was. He's wrong. He's either bad at math or doesn't understand civics." is the impeachment happens in the House and then is confirmed by the Senate in which
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: the Senate needs twothirds of the Senate, which by my math is 67, not 60. So, he's either bad at math or bad at civics. Both of those are bad for somebody

00:48:29

Mike Smith: both
Nathan Brady: who basically who basically has more power than the vice president of the United States at the moment. Um, he's
Mike Smith: I'll point out some breaking news too because this is this is relate this is related to the the Khalil case but it's
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: the same thing says Pam Bondi went on on Fox News 20 minutes ago or thereabouts
Nathan Brady: Okay.
Mike Smith: and said that a judge has no right to ask the Trump administration questions about their no due process uh rendition flights. So basically saying judges can't say you're not giving people due process and proving they're not American citizens before you deport them. And her response was we don't have to. And he's like I'm a f****** judge. Do what I tell you. I'm ordering you to do this.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Well, let's hear let's
Mike Smith: So
Nathan Brady: hear
Mike Smith: it's going
Nathan Brady: also
Mike Smith: to be an allout battle. I just I can't with these people.
Nathan Brady: let's hear also from uh Jim Jordan who apparently just had something to say on CNN.

00:49:22

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Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: he
Mike Smith: hope
Nathan Brady: has
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: I'm
Mike Smith: hope it's
Nathan Brady: sure
Mike Smith: written.
Nathan Brady: he has a I
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: hope
Nathan Brady: want
Mike Smith: it's
Nathan Brady: to hear
Mike Smith: not
Nathan Brady: it.
Mike Smith: talking.
Nathan Brady: I want
Nathan Brady's Presentation: work
Nathan Brady: to hear
Nathan Brady's Presentation: done
Nathan Brady: it.
Nathan Brady's Presentation: that you believe is an impeachable offense under the constitutional description of high crimes and misdemeanors. All I'm saying is if you're acting in a political fashion and not just, you know, following the law, uh, ruling on the on the law, and I would argue that frankly just his ruling in and of itself, remember the Constitution is pretty clear. Article 2, section one, very first sentence, says power in the executive branch shall be vested in a president of the United States. The president has the authority here. Second, he followed the major body. He followed that predator predatory incursion and that's that's that he followed the statute.

00:50:07

Nathan Brady's Presentation: And then third, the president told the country he was going to do. It's not like it's a surprise to anyone.
Mike Smith: Ah, he
Nathan Brady's Presentation: Done.
Nathan Brady: Oh.
Mike Smith: gave it up. He gave
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: it up. Oh, these clowns. These absolute clowns. Been
Nathan Brady: there's
Mike Smith: saying
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: it for months,
Nathan Brady: so, so first of all, just because the president tells the country that he's going to do something doesn't mean it's a legal thing to do. Whether
Mike Smith: right?
Nathan Brady: people voted for it or not still doesn't make it a legal thing to do. So
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: he his three
Mike Smith: So,
Nathan Brady: points he just listed was one power invested in the executive branch. You're correct. The president has the power of the executive branch. However, there is an additional branch of government, the judicial branch that we use to put checks and balances on the executive branch.

00:50:53

Nathan Brady: I know
Mike Smith: right.
Nathan Brady: I what is he that that was a word salad. There was
Mike Smith: It
Nathan Brady: nothing
Mike Smith: was a
Nathan Brady: there.
Mike Smith: word cell. Yeah.
Nathan Brady: There was nothing
Mike Smith: The
Nathan Brady: there.
Mike Smith: thing I want to say is and and I' I've been saying they've been they were going to do this for a while now, but they are trying to frame this in a way using the uh uh what alien Enemies act
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: to make it so that they have case law that that is that is in effect. Like it or not, that's that's law of the land.
Nathan Brady: Mhm.
Mike Smith: And as the executive branch, it's their duty to to execute on that law and that includes deporting people from this country. Now, the process for doing that is laid out by different laws, but that's the thing that they're missing is that the the courts are saying you're not following the law in your uh execution of the law, which is your duty.

00:51:51

Mike Smith: That's correct. Jim Jordan's got that part correct
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: section two, but they're like, you can't just throw people in vans and deport them. There is a process that is in law that you have to follow. And if you're not following it, I can order you to stop because I'm
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: the judicial branch and
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: that's well within my purview.
Nathan Brady: Right. Even Even if Trump got out there in his in his last stump speech and he said, "When I take over, I'm gonna drag people off the streets and throw them into unmarked vans, that doesn't mean that just because he was elected that he can legally do that." So,
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: I mean, you know, that was that was a bunch of nonsense. Um, okay.
Mike Smith: shorten. Oh, what
Nathan Brady: I'm
Mike Smith: what an
Nathan Brady: sorry.
Mike Smith: unserious person.
Nathan Brady: the whole the whole party is unserious. Um, okay. I want to move on to our last item.

00:52:43

Nathan Brady: Um, even though there's many many many
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: more items that we could we
Mike Smith: Our
Nathan Brady: could talk
Mike Smith: last
Nathan Brady: about
Mike Smith: item
Nathan Brady: today.
Mike Smith: for now
Nathan Brady: Last item for for this moment is um there's some really incredible research going on right now um with mRNA vaccines. And you know, Mike, you and I and a couple of other people that we work with and socialize with, um, are all always really excited when new science like this comes out, especially because,
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: you know, I have a loved one that that would could benefit greatly from this type of breakthrough. Uh, we all do, we all know somebody who could benefit from from um these breakthroughs in mRNA vaccines. Um so in particular there is there is one earlyphase clinical trial going on for pancreatic cancer which
Mike Smith: Heat.
Nathan Brady: is one of the most brutal painful ways uh to die. One of one of
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: it's the most deadly of all the cancers.

00:53:40

Mike Smith: Basically
Nathan Brady: and the most deadly of all all
Mike Smith: got like a survival rate, fiveyear survival rate of like 30%. And and basically what that means is when the doctor that you that you go to says, "I'm sorry, it's pancreatic cancer." That means you're probably not living another three years.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, it's it's it's not good.
Mike Smith: So
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: it's it's rough.
Nathan Brady: so, um,
Mike Smith: So
Nathan Brady: well,
Mike Smith: tell me
Nathan Brady: I'm
Mike Smith: about tell me about this this uh this new vaccine as they're calling it right. It's in it's starting fa phase two clinical trials. So
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: they're they're they're opening the number of people who are going to be getting administration of this this
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: vaccination. And and to be clear I have read so much about this thing at this point I find it deeply fascinating.
Nathan Brady: Yes.
Mike Smith: It does act something like a vaccine, although I think that's sort of a misnomer at this point.

00:54:31

Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: It causes your body to create uh TE-C cell antibodies that that are basically trained through this vaccine to attack tumor cells in the pancreas specifically this very spec that's type of cancer. And from their stage one trials, I think that they were seeing at least like 50% of the people that were administered were and were given live doses, not placebo, had like gone into full remission. Like it had it had either shrunk the tumors to the point where they were no longer considered malignant or they were gone completely and it was like over half or something. So even if this has like a decent chance but not a full chance, it's still
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: amazing technology that's going to save the lives and suffering of so many people.
Nathan Brady: I mean, if if if either of us had pancreatic cancer, there's no doubt in my mind we wouldn't be on the doorstep of these clinical studies being like, "Let me let me in. I'll do I'll
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: do
Mike Smith: Yeah. That would be you'd be

00:55:30

Nathan Brady: Right."
Mike Smith: selling the house for this,
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: you know. It's it's it's honestly miracle drug level stuff here. And
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: I think that for a lot of that, I mean, we've talked about it on the pod before, but I think mRNA uh vaccine techniques like that that whole that history of that and the the pan the the potential for that to just be so life-changing in so many ways moving forward is huge.
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: I love that. And also with tech technologies that we're seeing coming out like with crisper
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: and
Nathan Brady: man.
Mike Smith: with just DNA editing generally like these
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: techniques that sound like science fiction from when I was a kid actually exists today and we're seeing positive results like this and it's just
Nathan Brady: Yes.
Mike Smith: it's so promising. I think
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: it's so exciting for me. I know for you too
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Um, so you know what's the reason why we're talking about this right now?

00:56:24

Nathan Brady: Well, I think you might might have already guessed as
Mike Smith: because we
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: need to have some optimism at the end of the show.
Nathan Brady: No, that's unfortunately not why. I mean obviously mRNA vaccines played a huge role um during the pandemic that we all remember going through. Um and of course vaccine skepticism for the right uh I think it nearly like tripled quadrupled um and mRNA vaccines were a huge focus in that
Mike Smith: Oh
Nathan Brady: um
Mike Smith: yeah.
Nathan Brady: because for for whatever reason because of all the good that it did during the pandemic now we have to attack them. So I have to show th this this guy. Um so what do you think is happening? Well RFK is now of course targeting um mRNA vaccines. So I want to first say that as of right now we were going to we were going to share this story um already. I think this was on our list of stories to share. But while I was looking over the review, you know, the notes for today and had other work going on, I then uh, you know, was following, I think it was Marissa who had broke the news that Doge was in NIH um, starting to dismantle NIH.

00:57:43

Nathan Brady: Now, if
Mike Smith: Dismantle
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: mean like cut funding or employees
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: or
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: both.
Nathan Brady: don't know because what they did to to uh you know, the the peace administration is they literally went in and tore signs off the wall, unplugged computers, carried things out of the building.
Mike Smith: Yeah, we'll
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: we'll follow up on that one probably next week. That's a very interesting story and it's it's actually the first instance where um for anybody who's not super following along here, it's an independent agency
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: that
Nathan Brady: an
Mike Smith: was
Nathan Brady: independent agency.
Mike Smith: that that doesn't actually answer to a branch of government but receives funding from it. sort of a like the DOJ but not as important. It's still acting independent is a big part of that whole thing. And so Doge came to their front door and demanded to see something and they were turned away because they're like, "We're an independent agency. We don't have to let you in." And

00:58:36

Mike Smith: then they came back with the FBI and you can't say that to the FBI.
Nathan Brady: and the and and the other local authorities. Local authorities also helped in this, by the way. And they got in and they started ripping down signs, pulling computer equipment out. Mind-blowing that they can even do that. I'm sure there will
Mike Smith: There's
Nathan Brady: be
Mike Smith: there's a lawsuit now
Nathan Brady: Oh,
Mike Smith: filed
Nathan Brady: of course.
Mike Smith: because
Nathan Brady: Of course.
Mike Smith: this is an independent agency and they shouldn't have to be subjected to this type of illegal search and seizure. I think it's
Nathan Brady: Of
Mike Smith: a slam
Nathan Brady: course.
Mike Smith: dunk case, but it'll be interesting to see because, you know, you you you need to rein this in early, but
Nathan Brady: So,
Mike Smith: okay, going back to JFK Jr.
Nathan Brady: so, so all of that said, Doge is currently at NIH right now maybe doing the same thing. And I, for one, and I've shared studies with you before,

00:59:18

Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: NIH's website and PubMed and all of that. I mean, those are those are uh resources that are wildly important for the um for the medical community, for the research community. Um so if they end up dismantling this agency in this way
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: um
Mike Smith: Like even even if they just take down the public filings of of like medical research that has been published by NAH or through NIH, like that's a huge disservice just to the American public. We paid for that.
Nathan Brady: right
Mike Smith: Those things are ours. We you can't hide them from us. We paid for them. So there will be a lawsuit about that too, I'm sure, at some point. Um
Nathan Brady: Um but but yeah, but
Mike Smith: good
Nathan Brady: Captain Captain Antivaccine over here um is obviously targeting mRNA vaccines because he's a skeptic, I guess. He doesn't read studies. He doesn't I I don't I don't know.
Mike Smith: He's
Nathan Brady: Um,
Mike Smith: just he's he's an an unintelligent person and he's unwilling to change his world view on things.

01:00:24

Mike Smith: He we talked about this in the last one. He has these these positions of like measles doesn't kill people very well and and people should just get measles so that they have immunity to measles and it's just like no no scientific study backs up this statement. This is just you going off of your own vibes here. Can we listen to the scientists please? Can we actually listen to intelligent people who have done research over decades to prove these
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: things?
Nathan Brady: And so separately from what's going on with Doge, um I'll read this this quote from the article here. Further, two independent scientists told the outlet that they were informed by NIH officials that any mention of mRNA vaccines needed to be removed from their grant applications. One, a biomedical researcher in Philadelphia said that the NIH had flagged our pending grant as having an mRNA vaccine component. The other, a researcher in New York who works on vaccines but not mRNA vaccines, was told that background mentions of mRNA vaccine efficacy in their previous grant applications needed to be removed from future applications.

01:01:30

Nathan Brady: I mean the they're just they want to just disappear ideas. They want to dis
Mike Smith: Yeah,
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: they're
Nathan Brady: mean this is just insane. This is this is literally insane.
Mike Smith: I don't know if it's insane or if it's insidious. I'm gonna
Nathan Brady: I mean,
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: it's insane
Mike Smith: gonna
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: warn
Nathan Brady: insidious.
Mike Smith: everybody again.
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: This
Nathan Brady: both.
Mike Smith: is Head
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: Cannon.
Nathan Brady: both.
Mike Smith: I'm putting my tin foil hat back on here, but I think that the people who stand to gain from something like this uh are pharmaceutical industries. We talked about this in the past. Pharmaceutical industries would absolutely love it if we could keep you alive with pancreatic cancer for years and years with drugs. They would love that. the fact that you might be able to get a shot, you know, from this pancreatic cancer vaccine and it cures or prevents you from getting that disease, that cuts into their bottom line.

01:02:19

Mike Smith: Okay? And so I'm thinking personally that RFK Jr. and Trump and Musk and all of these oligarchs are deeply in the pockets of of the pharmaceutical industry and they really really do want to make money.
Nathan Brady: So I I think that uh I mean as much as
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: I agree
Mike Smith: I'm
Nathan Brady: with
Mike Smith: I'm I'm
Nathan Brady: that
Mike Smith: basing this off of nothing other
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: than the research I've done on mRNA vaccines there and their basically
Nathan Brady: But I just
Mike Smith: illegality for 40 years.
Nathan Brady: so it's possible that RFK Jr. is just a conduit to that means for
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: Trump and Musk
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: and that's why he's there. Because you can look at, you know, several years of RFK
Mike Smith: Sure.
Nathan Brady: talking about this. I mean, he's literally enacting what his dream here, which is, I don't know, to tell people to eat more salads and they won't get pancreatic cancer. I don't I don't really know uh what his what his deal is, but I don't disagree with the premise that that yeah, if these things if if if we can't cure cancer immediately with a shot, then that's that's profitable for uh for insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies.

01:03:31

Nathan Brady: Um so, oof, I guess I have to say. Oof.
Mike Smith: Yeah, I I think that there's going to at least be enough public outcry that we can probably keep uh mRNA vaccine like they're they're trying to limit the the reach of it at at NIH now. But I'm telling you, brother, if there if there's a vaccine based on mRNA uh uh vaccination technology that makes it so that you can cure pancreatic cancer, I mean, you will never stop the public from getting it. They're
Nathan Brady: Well,
Mike Smith: they're
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: going
Nathan Brady: mean,
Mike Smith: to burn down the White House before you can
Nathan Brady: well,
Mike Smith: turn
Nathan Brady: they're
Mike Smith: that
Nathan Brady: going to
Mike Smith: away
Nathan Brady: they're going to stop it from even being produced, though. That's the thing. Like that stage two trial or, you know, a trial beyond that, it's got the the study is going to end. Like, we're not going to get to the point where that's a thing. But

01:04:21

Mike Smith: in
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: will tell
Mike Smith: U
Nathan Brady: you
Mike Smith: in
Nathan Brady: what
Mike Smith: the
Nathan Brady: will happen
Mike Smith: US.
Nathan Brady: in the US. Exact. That's what I
Mike Smith: So,
Nathan Brady: was going to
Mike Smith: well,
Nathan Brady: say.
Mike Smith: I was going to say, you know, Canada, China, the
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: UK,
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: these places are
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: are still researching mRNA vaccines
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: and like you said in the previous one, that means that our top talent are going to go where they can do research on
Nathan Brady: We
Mike Smith: these
Nathan Brady: are
Mike Smith: things because they that's what they that's what they've decided their goal in life is to do is to cure cancer or that's going to cure, you know, debilitating disease, lifelong diseases
Nathan Brady: right.
Mike Smith: like those. And if mRNA is, you know, the road to that, then they're going to go wherever they can to study it and try and come up with solutions to these problems.

01:04:57

Nathan Brady: I'm
Mike Smith: And
Nathan Brady: I'm
Mike Smith: then at
Nathan Brady: not
Mike Smith: some
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: point, you're going to be like, "Wait a minute. I have to travel to, you know, Britain to get my my cancer vaccine. Why can't I have my cancer vaccine here?
Nathan Brady: Yeah, I'm I'm not so sure as of late we were really the science the scientific powerhouse that we used to be. Um but we certainly aren't going to be after this administration
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: is done doing what they're doing. I think that we are going to be set back decades um for for for
Mike Smith: Well,
Nathan Brady: the
Mike Smith: and it's and it's all interconnected, right? because
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: the education department and the way that fundings work for universities and and and obviously scientific studies through NIH and those sorts of things, they're all intertwined in trying to improve the lives of every person
Nathan Brady: Right.
Mike Smith: and and they're cutting funding from each of them and they're hobbling them by making it impossible to start new studies and it's just going to be uh fairly obvious where you want to go if you are an intellectual trying to improve the world.

01:06:00

Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: It's
Nathan Brady: and
Mike Smith: not the United States.
Nathan Brady: well but and I mean even going to college in the United States to to do that I mean it's uh it's
Mike Smith: It's looking
Nathan Brady: going to be
Mike Smith: less
Nathan Brady: discouraged
Mike Smith: and less. Yeah. No, I I agree.
Nathan Brady: you know um the the of course if I mean we saw today I think it was the University of Pennsylvania um is the story I wanted to talk about today is is Trump administration has has canceled funding. I think it's $175 million in federal funding over one transgender swimmer at this university. I mean, so next is um you know, okay, DEI, we already heard about that. If if there's DEI, we're going to remove your funding. Next is going to be, okay, if you're doing mRNA research at your at your university, we're going to remove
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: your funding. So, you're not going to get to go to schools
Mike Smith: If you're allowing

01:06:51

Nathan Brady: where
Mike Smith: protests
Nathan Brady: this
Mike Smith: to
Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: happen at all without calling in the SWAT team to bust heads, we're
Nathan Brady: But
Mike Smith: going
Nathan Brady: so
Mike Smith: to take away your funding.
Nathan Brady: but this of course eliminates the incentive to even go to college to begin with because now these colleges aren't going to be able to do any of the things that made them innovative that made them stand out that made them a a scientific powerhouse for you as a person going my dream in life is to cure cancer. You're going to graduate high school and then look at studying abroad. Right?
Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Like it's
Mike Smith: I I
Nathan Brady: it's
Mike Smith: think that that's I think that's a valid position to take as a young person. If I were in my late teens, early 20s right now, I would definitely be considering, you know, going to college in either Canada or like somewhere in the UK.
Nathan Brady: Yeah. Uh, pretty embarrassing.
Mike Smith: It's it's horribly embarrassing.

01:07:38

Nathan Brady: Yeah.
Mike Smith: And not only that, but these institutions, you know, they're not they're not uh innocent in the in all of this obviously,
Nathan Brady: No, no, no. They're
Mike Smith: but
Nathan Brady: acquiescing.
Mike Smith: on the other hand, they're trying to make money, too. Those the tuitions are going to go have to go up because they're going to have fewer people applying to go there. They're going to be sending talent abroad. And it's I don't the whole system I mean, the whole system the the Trump admin seems to be making the goal of ending, you know, higher education
Nathan Brady: No, I mean as uh it's it's like we were talking about Colombia University um last week, right? They were capitulating. Um
Mike Smith: Right.
Nathan Brady: they were like, "Hey, who do you want us to punch in the face? You want us to punch the Palestinians in the face? We'll do it.
Mike Smith: We'll
Nathan Brady: We'll
Mike Smith: do
Nathan Brady: kick
Mike Smith: that.
Nathan Brady: everybody.
Mike Smith: We'll bust some heads.

01:08:22

Mike Smith: Yeah.
Nathan Brady: Yeah, we'll bust everybody's heads." And they're still losing their funding. So, you know what?
Mike Smith: Yeah. They did everything they were told and they're still not
Nathan Brady: I
Mike Smith: getting their
Nathan Brady: mean, Colombia
Mike Smith: phone.
Nathan Brady: might as well shut down because who the hell I mean, well, now it's just going to be a a a right if if if anybody even goes there, who's going to go there, you know? Right-wingers. I
Mike Smith: I don't
Nathan Brady: don't
Mike Smith: know.
Nathan Brady: know. So, anyway, here's the story.
Mike Smith: I
Nathan Brady: It's
Mike Smith: don't
Nathan Brady: it's
Mike Smith: have time
Nathan Brady: on
Mike Smith: to think about that right now.
Nathan Brady: it's on it's on Huff Post. Um Trump administration suspends $175 million in federal funding for Penn over transgender swimmer. Um we'll throw this in the show notes as well. It's just un it's unbelievable. This administration is unbelievable. Um there's so much more I want to talk about, but not this week.

01:09:06

Nathan Brady: We're already at the one 110 mark basically. So, we're going to end it here. Um all all we have left to say is uh please like, subscribe, follow us on Blue Ski, where we're we're the most active. Um, and you know, I was talking to Mike uh last week about maybe trying to do two episodes in a week coming up soon. We've just been super busy. We even had to bump ours from Tuesday. So, uh, there's just so much going on. But, if there's something that you want us to talk about or focus a little bit more time on, uh, please leave a message in the comments on the YouTube video or or send us a message on on uh, Blue Sky. Our DMs are open. Um, but yeah, so until then, we will uh we'll catch you all next time.
Mike Smith: Thanks everybody.
Nathan Brady: Bye. All right, that was fun.
Mike Smith: Was it Is that what it was?
Nathan Brady: I don't think so. Picking up a lot of followers from that Pandora's box uh thing.
Mike Smith: Pandora's
Nathan Brady: Let me take
Mike Smith: box you
Nathan Brady: these.
Mike Smith: talking about?
Nathan Brady: The tweet, the post that I made about the Pandora's box.
Mike Smith: oh,
Nathan Brady: Stop taking not.