Constitutional Crisis: Trump vs the Federal Courts of Red, White, and Blueland

ric-vnme-ova (2025-02-11 12:26 GMT-8) - Transcript

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Mike Smith, Nathan Brady, Nathan Brady's Presentation

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Nathan Brady: Let me fix the lighting. Friendly* ghost over here.

Mike Smith: There's the slug. It's a pretty good one.

Nathan Brady: I'm a f* slug. What the f*** is this?

Mike Smith: All right. How do I look? I'm a little tall if I'm being honest. There we go. my god. I have so many links here that they run off the screen. And I got a vertical screen that's 26 inches long and…

Mike Smith: it's running off that screen,…

Nathan Brady: That's what she said.

Mike Smith: Okay, as I'll ever be.

Nathan Brady: You ready?

Mike Smith: Stop emailing me.

Nathan Brady: Here we go. Hey everyone and welcome to episode 30 of the Blues Edition podcast. Yeah, that means we have Yeah.

Mike Smith: Wow, big three 0.

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Big 3 0.

Nathan Brady: That does mean we have 29 other episodes. They are all on YouTube. they're also on Apple and Spotify, wherever you get your silly podcasts. So yeah, be sure to give us a subscribe or whatever. and check out our back catalog. we got a lot more of the same today. I'm Nate Brady alongside my host. That's Mike Smith. how is it going? Man, this is a question we ask ourselves at the beginning of every episode and…

Nathan Brady: the answer is always** bad.

Mike Smith: I used to enjoy us recording on Mondays…

Mike Smith: because there was only so much news that could happen over the weekend that we would actually have to cover in a scramble.

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah.

Mike Smith: Now that we're doing Tuesdays, I feel like Monday is just the worst news cycle day ever every single week.

Nathan Brady: Monday into Tuesday morning is a s*** storm, right?

Nathan Brady: It is just I can't believe the stuff that we have to cover today.

Nathan Brady: And we have to omit a bunch of things because we only have an hour for this. where do you want to begin is the question.

Mike Smith: Boy, I don't even really know,…

Mike Smith: it's all going to be very Trump centric obviously, so we might as well just get into some of his nonsense that he's been trying to do with executive orders.

Nathan Brady: Obviously Do you wrote sounds right?

Mike Smith: So I was just going to say that he tried to fire the Federal Elections Commission chair who was just voted in and the chair on January 31st of 2025. her name is Ellen. I don't know, Winrob. Wayne Trob, something like that.

Nathan Brady: I'm from Yeah.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah. and…

Mike Smith: won an election and is heading the FEC and Trump tried to fire her via email. At least she's pushing back. She's saying this isn't how this is done and there's a legal way to do it and this ain't it. Yeah. a lot of good quotes out of her.

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: Exactly. There's a legal way to replace FBC commissioners. This isn't it. the FEC is an independent regulatory agency that enforces federal campaign finance law, lol. which includes overseeing campaigns for the House, Senate, President, and Vice President. we can make the argument, I think both you and I could successfully make the argument that this f***** position doesn't matter because I mean what did we just see in the last year of elections?

Nathan Brady: We saw in Democratic primaries ridiculous spending from certain lobbies. we saw Elon Musk spend $250 million plus to get Donald Trump elected. So what exactly is Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

Mike Smith: Obviously, they're trying to make sure that they're in charge of training people to do ele federal elections and ensuring that registry roles and things like that are all being taken care of in a nonpartisan way, which is the whole draw of the commission itself. And I have to say this is not surprising but definitely scary because it's going to call into question every election from now on. Is it going to have the taint of Donald Trump's, fingers all over it and are our elections truly free moving forward? He's a Remember he was quoted on the campaign trail as saying, "Vote for me in 2024 and you'll never have to vote again.

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Mike Smith: Okay, we're in.

Nathan Brady: This is going to be the general topic of our I think podcast today which is that the party of law and order doesn't really care much for the law. this is an illegal dismissal.

Mike Smith: No. Yeah,…

Nathan Brady: It is going to be rejected by federal courts if it comes to that and he's going to ignore that. and in fact, we can just go right into the big story, which I know I have a link for here somewhere.

Mike Smith: in the mountain of links that we shared.

Nathan Brady: Yeah. why don't you kick it off and I'll find the link.

Mike Smith: I'm sure that what you're talking about is obviously the myriad executive orders that Trump has issued over the last few days or…

Nathan Brady: Right.

Mike Smith: weeks rather at this point and the judicial outcomes of those because of course they were going to be taken up at court over and over again since they're obviously illegal and courts have upheld over and over that for instance the high level is that they are in fact illegal. the firings at US and the trying to cut off the funding that empowers US and other agencies that he's done via the executive order. We always knew that that was not within his jurisdiction or power set. And Congress controls the purse. They have the power of the purse.

Mike Smith: And so the courts upheld that. They said you cannot make these moves. these executive orders are illegal in practice.

Mike Smith: And then stepping forward and saying write these wrongs that you have ordered and given them deadlines to accommodate.

Nathan Brady: And as you can see…

Nathan Brady: why we're having such a hard time following Look at this timeline from just hours ago for today.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yep.

Nathan Brady: I mean Musk is

Mike Smith: And you can see some of these I mean if you're not watching and you're only listening some of these headlines are as simple it's like Trump administration ordered to restore websites of US health agencies taken down. So this is where they had a standing order from the president of if you include anything about racial bias or anything that they would call woke, you had to take those websites down with no push back ostensibly from the congressional arm and judges have said put them back by the end of the day.

Mike Smith: and it's like we're just drinking from the fire hose here. all of this news comes out so quickly and It's all just big news and it feels like I'm experiencing whiplash. Right. Right.

Nathan Brady: is talking of just ignoring the rulings of these federal courts which by the way there is really no precedent for. We can talk we can go back in history and find very obscure examples of when this has happened in the past. one time with Abraham Lincoln Lincoln during a rebellion and another time, Andrew Jackson decided he was just gonna not enforce the policies to protect the Cherokee Nation. I mean,…

Mike Smith: Right. That's…

Nathan Brady: these are I mean, obviously the Andrew Jackson thing that was 1832 and…

Mike Smith: how far back you have to go.

Nathan Brady: and then the other time with Abraham Lincoln is in 1861.

Nathan Brady: And then more recently, if you're looking in the modern era, this just hasn't happened. And with you can call out to right.

Mike Smith: And in fact, we've seen examples to the contrary. I remember in Nixon's cabinet, he tried to basically do the same thing where he said, fine. You control the powers of the purse, but I'm going to cut off and just not give the money you've appropriated to I forget which agency it was." And just threatened that they would have no dollars in their budget and…

Nathan Brady: N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N's another good example of there was a Supreme Court order to turn over the Watergate tapes and…

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Mike Smith: Yeah. Yep.

Nathan Brady: He actually did it. and…

Nathan Brady: it led to his resignation and instead of what would Trump do in that situation? No, I burned him already.

Mike Smith: Right. Right.

Nathan Brady: What are you going to do about it? he'd go at him. and then there was George W.

Nathan Brady: Bush, I think more recently, who went along with a federal court ruling on prisoner rights in Guantanamo Bay. So, …

Nathan Brady: there's a ton of examples in the modern era where hey, president wanted to do something either federal court or Supreme Court said absolutely absolutely not buddy and checked that power and…

Mike Smith: Right. Right.

Nathan Brady: those people just listened. So, we don't know what happens when the president doesn't listen. M

Mike Smith: And I wanted to circle back to Nixon because I think that that's the most recent one where there was a challenge where Nixon said, "I'm going to do this even though I was told not to." But at the time, I had to look it up. We did have a Democratic majority in the Senate and the House. And so they basically threatened to impeach him if he kept going with this, even though he was defying a court order.

Nathan Brady: All right.

Mike Smith: We do not have that luxury this time around. I think that in fact I posted this on blue sky earlier where I said the checks for this particular situation where a president has been ruled that something one of his actions or one of his orders is unlawful or unconstitutional. The only check left is impeachment by the house and The house and…

Nathan Brady: I and…

Mike Smith: senate aren't going to do that. So laws don't matter. I mean what is a court going to a court has no The enforcement arm of the court are the other branches of government.

Nathan Brady: and you have to couple this with the Supreme Court recently during the end of Biden's administration basically ruled the president has supreme power when it comes

Mike Smith: Yeah. absolute immunity.

Nathan Brady: to absolute immunity when it comes to…

Mike Smith: When it's part of is immunity ruling.

Nathan Brady: but don't worry that's only when it comes to official acts as president. So that literally means they just ruled that federal court orders is still him acting in the official capacity in his role as president of the United States defying court orders legal.

Mike Smith: You're And it's sort of a I say modern because here we are, but it's a take on jury nullification. They're basically just saying that we don't care that the courts could be ruling this correctly. We will not enforce that law and we're going to let the president do in his official capacity anything he orders us to do.

Nathan Brady: Right. Right.

Mike Smith: And so that means the Constitution laws don't matter. And he'll never be held accountable for this. And in fact, I don't think that they're going to like so there's a deadline set for today where a federal court I believe in the fourth circuit had ruled that the Trump admin needs to roll back this USA thing as a court order. okay, what happens when midnight today comes and goes and that doesn't happen? What's the next step? They're not taking it to Scotas. They're just saying, "I'm ignoring you.

Nathan Brady: Right. Right.

Mike Smith: federal court.

Nathan Brady: They're not Yeah. …

Mike Smith: What do you do?

Nathan Brady: they've already set it up, So, we know JD Vance came out a day or two ago.

Nathan Brady: By the way, JD Vance, Yale Law graduate,…

Mike Smith: And it's not just JD Vance.

Nathan Brady: came out and said basically the judicial branch has no right to check the power of the executive branch. What? …

Mike Smith: It's congressmen and senators alike on the right have come out saying we're not going to do it.

Nathan Brady: yeah. so JD set it up and then it trickled down. You've got Mike Johnson now saying And as to your point earlier, with the majority in the Senate and the House, there's nobody to hold them accountable. this is coming from the party that cares so much about the Constitution.

Mike Smith: No, certainly in our lifetime and…

Nathan Brady: This is literally a constitutional crisis. I mean, this isn't hyperbole. This is as big of a crisis as we've had in my lifetime.

Nathan Brady: right.

Mike Smith: almost certainly in what I would consider the history of the United States as it comes to the democracy that we have here. The three again the only checks there to hold a president accountable is by Congress and the Senate by way of impeachment. That's and enforcing their other options. obviously Congress holds the power of the purse. They can elect to not do what the president wants to do by denying dollars making it so that it's hard to enact their administration as we saw with Obama and to a lesser extent with Biden. They just are unwilling to do that. But these are all sickants to Trump and they will do whatever they're told. Constitution be damned.

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Nathan Brady: What are the legal consequences? I mean, like you said, there aren't really any for Trump. I mean, okay, what are you going to hold Trump in contempt of court?

Nathan Brady: You going to fine him? …

Mike Smith: Yeah, I think that that is the next step is that when he violates this court order today,…

Mike Smith: then I suppose the Trump admin and…

Nathan Brady: I mean,…

Mike Smith: to another scent the President Trump will be held in contempt of court for violating a court order. But who cares? what do you do with that? They're going to treat it like a parking ticket that you just don't care about.

Nathan Brady: it starts with fines and then it usually goes to arrest warrants and it'll never make it to that as you and I both know. And even if it got close to that, then it would end up at the Supreme Court.

Nathan Brady: And the Supreme Court is going to say the federal courts have no authority to hold a sitting president…

Nathan Brady: who is acting within the official capacity of the United States of America as president hold him in contempt of court. they just can't do it. so

Mike Smith: And…

Mike Smith: I think it makes me wonder though, can they hold other people accountable in the admin who are carrying out the orders of someone who is immune to everything? In the case of US and Doge, can you hold Elon Musk accountable for violating a court order in this case? I don't know the answer to that. I don't know how you're going to get any civil servants or…

Mike Smith: police or anybody to actually, go out and fulfill an arrest warrant against an Elon Musk. Probably got a security team that would rival a police station. So, there's I don't know.

Nathan Brady: No, you're Yeah.

Nathan Brady: I don't know what's next. It's just speculation at this point. Who knows what happens? I hope at least in the last Trump ad administration there were people in his ear that said you can't do This this is bad for public perception. You're going to lose some support among the House and the Senate as well. so he just can't do this.

Nathan Brady: In this case, so far what we are seeing is, and of course CNN was reporting this earlier today maybe it was on yesterday, Trump's approval numbers are going up. People are enjoying him running a muck. I don't know what other way to put it, but I mean, at least his base is charged. he's doing what he said he would do, but the other point is what has he actually done or anybody for any of these people? Now we can point to a specific example of the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau. I think this is a big one that's come up recently. he's dismantling that. Doge is dismantling that.

Nathan Brady: They're claiming it was 700 and something million dollars of wasted budget when the CFPB has returned I think maybe it was in the order of billions I don't know whether it was two billion or…

Nathan Brady: 20 billion I'm forgetting the exact number I think it was 20 21 billion have returned that amount of money to consumers that's what that agency does far right exactly Exactly.

Mike Smith: right? Who have ostensibly been ripped off,…

Mike Smith: this is consumer protections goods for certain.

Nathan Brady: So far the only things that he has done is hurt the American people we're talking at the at the grocery stores, we're talking for consumer protections for consumer goods.

Mike Smith: I mean that we talked about tariffs last week and the dimminimous exemption now being completely disbanded.

Nathan Brady: Right. Right.

Mike Smith: you can't hardly buy anything for less than 20 bucks and it's not going to be here for more than a month now. Good luck if you buy anything on Teemo. none of that stuff's going to grow. But is helping How is anybody enjoying the current state of being where like you said, groceries and gases they're going up non-stop with no end in sight. There is no plan for bl bird flu other than we're going to shut down NIH. I know we've got the old muscle memory.

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Nathan Brady: Where was it? they moved profile around on me and I can't get it right. yeah. mean I have family members unfortunately people that I know that are just stoked right now. They're like he's doing it. We're back baby live doing what?

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: Like what?

Mike Smith: I have people in my life who are dieh hard, unfortunately. They used to be Republicans, now they're Trumpans. They're, in the cult,…

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

Mike Smith: and they get federal subsidy money to help them live their lives, buy their groceries, and they're cheering louder than anyone. And I'm like, how are you going to pay your mortgage in a month or two when you have to pay for all your groceries and all your gas with none of the help from any of the federal government?

Nathan Brady: it's mind-blowing.

Mike Smith: It's not good.

Nathan Brady: No one I mean,…

Mike Smith: And I agree that the beating of the chest and all of that is it's posturing, but it's going to be temporary for everyone. No one is going to feel good in a couple of weeks.

Nathan Brady: we're all going to be in big trouble. yeah.

Mike Smith: Yeah. I mean, we're in California, obviously prices are a little more expensive, but a dozen eggs right now is nine bucks. that's not sustainable for anybody.

Nathan Brady: No, and that I mean your eggs are in everything. The bakers are having problems. we just had ramen yesterday that had an egg in it and…

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: the …

Nathan Brady: the cost of ramen was $2 more each than it was, four months ago.

Mike Smith: And it's…

Mike Smith: because of that, and I've been seeing that in the local restaurants,…

Mike Smith: too, where they have notices posted where they're like because of the start the stark increase in the cost of eggs, certain dishes will have a search charge levy to get put on them as well. I'm like,…

Nathan Brady: Yeah, there's literally you see it now,…

Nathan Brady: egg search charge on certain dishes. It's unbelievable.

Mike Smith: I've been going to the same greasy spoon restaurant. we love those.

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah.

Mike Smith: But I've been going there for 40 years and…

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah.

Mike Smith: they still have this $5 omelet that's great. And I went in there Friday or Thursday or something and the $5 omelet just has this little sign next to it that says 10 bucks now. Sorry. they can't do anything about it.

Nathan Brady: Yeah. What do you want me to do?

Mike Smith: What do you want me to do?

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. yeah, there's a little cafe near an airport over here near one of our regional,…

Mike Smith: They only serve eggs for breakfast man.

Nathan Brady: local airports, which by the way, I just want to stay clear of alto together.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: As we hear more crashes today, which we could get to later, but who has the time? and it's the same thing. $5 specials, couple eggs, toast. That's all I want. I can't eat the toast, but you know what I mean. we want these little dishes and now 5. It's $950. It's what we're like we can't even go out to eat anymore.

Mike Smith: And It's not like they were chirping about inflation,…

Nathan Brady: No. Right.

Mike Smith: during all of Biden's, four years, but that was a slow grind up and everything. And this is basically a national emergency that's being ignored. They're letting the bird flu run rampant through all the farms and where, they have the egg layers and they have to end up callulling hundreds of thousands,…

Mike Smith: maybe millions of birds on farms across the country and it's not going to get better.

Nathan Brady: And yeah,…

Nathan Brady: by the way, the people who try to counter me will say, " that's the bird flu." I mean, that's not the president's fault. it either is or it isn't. All right? Because if it's Joe Biden's fault, it's Donald Trump's fault. But to an extent, and I've made this argument before, I have never said whether it was during a Republican administration or…

Mike Smith: There's no end in sight.

Nathan Brady: or a Democratic administration that the president controls, for instance, gas prices, because that's one thing that every idiot brings up during every I can't believe gas prices are this much more expensive than they were that time.

Mike Smith: No, no.

Nathan Brady: So, we need a new president.

Nathan Brady: The president has no impact on gas prices unless he levies tariffs against places where we import oil from.

Mike Smith: Yeah, left to their own devices,…

Nathan Brady: Are you an idiot national reserves shutting down certain oil pipelines?

Mike Smith: the only thing a president can do to impact gas prices that things like that where it's mainly from imports is going to be by way of diplomacy and saber rattling like you're threatening tariffs things like that exact exactly and…

Nathan Brady: There are things that can directly impact those prices. No.

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Mike Smith: I argue inaction is more what you will see that is the problem here. It's not that Trump caused bird flu or Trump caused the price of gases to go up, although he did in the case of tariffs, but he's not focused on that at all and has proposed no solution. So, it will not be improved.

Nathan Brady: And in fact,…

Mike Smith: Is that a simple enough thing that we can agree on?

Nathan Brady: he would prefer that to just shut down the agencies that would help wrangle a problem like this. as we know what's going on right now with NIH.

Mike Smith: And NIH working directly with the farmers all across the country and trying to get a vaccine figured out, but also just what to do if you suspect that one, 10, however many of your birds are infected, what should you do? and again, we make this argument a lot. They like the idea of the free market doing it. So you just like those birds kill a bunch of people but then they'll learn they'll stop buying and it's just like please God call those birds.

Nathan Brady: You're right that I guess the free market taught me a lesson.

Mike Smith: Killing yourself with eggs to own the libs. That's something.

Nathan Brady: It gets guys if you're…

Nathan Brady: if you're not in Okay.

Mike Smith: I take a little aside here…

Mike Smith: because we were talking about NAH and killing yourself to own the libs. Did you see that there's a crazy measles outbreak in and…

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yes.

Mike Smith: I think it's Idaho.

Nathan Brady: Was it Idaho? …

Mike Smith: No, no,…

Nathan Brady: let's No.

Mike Smith: that doesn't sound right now.

Nathan Brady: No, it was And I'm trying to remember.

Mike Smith: Maybe it was in the Midwest. Was it like Arkansas or…

Nathan Brady: It was this report from the Independent says that it's in West Texas,…

Mike Smith: something? Yeah.

Nathan Brady: which definitely makes sense.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you go.

Nathan Brady: Yeah.

Nathan Brady: Yeah, I remember reading about this. but this story is from today. many of those infected in Gaines County were young and unvaccinated children.

Mike Smith: We're losing the thread here as a people like we are we are I mean ignoring the fact that the current administration is putting people into health and…

Nathan Brady: We're losing was a good place to just stop. We're losing. Yeah.

Mike Smith: human services and NIH and other departments that will directly impact cases like this and the messaging around it. This is only going to get worse. And I think I put it on Blue Sky a week ago. I said I personally am old enough to know people who have been crippled by polio. I am old enough that I know people who walk around with leg braces. I know people whose legs simply do not work and they're in wheelchairs because of polygon. And measles is the tip of the iceberg. This is just going to get worse as children get older who have parents that are like this…

Mike Smith: who refuse to vaccinate them because they're worried about some spectre that doesn't really exist versus this. As this becomes more and…

Nathan Brady: Right. Yeah.

Mike Smith: more reality, I think that we're going to start seeing so many kids who are going to suffer because of the stupidity of their parents. I get so angry about that.

Nathan Brady: Yeah.

Mike Smith: I'm sorry.

Nathan Brady: I mean You're fully vaccinated. our kids are fully vaccinated. And the only issues I've ever had from vaccination is I believe it's caused wokeness.

Mike Smith: Yes. Yep.

Nathan Brady: So empathy sympathy just general feelings about things.

Mike Smith: Caring about people you've never met.

Nathan Brady: Jesus So it's going to get dumber from here if you're…

Mike Smith: It's my f*** off.

Nathan Brady: if you're it's going to get so much dumber.

Mike Smith: So dumb.

Nathan Brady: Can we talk about let's interrupt the madness with some real stupidity.

Mike Smith: Let's Okay. All right. No. Let's give me some real stupid.

Nathan Brady: You shared with me HR 1161 and…

Mike Smith: Yeah. god.

Nathan Brady: This was referred to the committee on foreign affairs.

Mike Smith: I sent it to you and I think my text was I wish this was just a dumb joke, but it's not. This is

Nathan Brady: I'm about to pull this up. I can't even believe this is real. I'm going to read the headline for people just listening. This is 1161 to authorize the president to enter into negotiations to acquire Greenland and to rename Greenland as Red, White, and Blue Land.

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Mike Smith: So workshop that name my guy Buddy I think is the name of this congressperson nicknamed Buddy says it in quotes from Georgia.

Nathan Brady: It's Earl Carter from Georgia.

Nathan Brady: Buddy Buddy Carter. Yep. Yep.

Mike Smith: You got to workshop that name my guy.

Mike Smith: Red, white and blue land is the stupidest thing I ever heard. that's so dumb. Also this is not how any of this happens.

Nathan Brady: This isn't…

Nathan Brady: how it works.

Nathan Brady: Is this how anything works?

Mike Smith: This is not…

Mike Smith: how anything works.

Nathan Brady: I mean, this is obviously just show. It's like, okay, we're going to allow him to talk about negotiations, which by the way, Greenland and Denmark are having none of this, nobody there is having that.

Mike Smith: Yeah, Denmark gets on they say every day they're like,…

Nathan Brady: They're just

Mike Smith: " we're not gonna negotiate.

Mike Smith: We're not going to enter conversations. This is not something that we're willing to discuss…

Nathan Brady: nobody's got time for that of Denmark and…

Mike Smith: because it's so such a farce on its face." And h it makes me dig into stupid politics in Greenland, which I don't have time for, but there's a huge independence movement in Greenland where they're like, "We don't want to be part of Denmark." They're like,…

Nathan Brady: certainly not the United States of America,…

Mike Smith: "But first and foremost, we definitely don't want to be part of the US." Oh my god.

Nathan Brady: my god. And then you have Trump saying stupid things like,…

Nathan Brady: we'll trade Puerto Rico. "We don't need Puerto Rico."***** that's f****** fantastic.

Mike Smith: That's not even…

Mike Smith: how that works. Okay. So,…

Nathan Brady: Okay.

Mike Smith: the last territories that the US acquired the Virgin Islands is my understanding. I did some very quick Googling here. they're the US Virgin Islands, right? They were purchased in by $25 million in gold.

Mike Smith: That's how long ago that was, by the way.

Nathan Brady: All right.

Mike Smith: It was in 1916 after the treaty was written to purchase it. So both parties had to agree to that.

Nathan Brady: Okay. Right.

Mike Smith: The Virgin Islands are like the population difference alone is astronomical. 25 million isn't going to cover it.

Mike Smith: 25 trillion is not going to cover it. you guys are so worried about the national debt and you're like let's go buy an island. Let's buy a f** continent. Everybody like,…

Nathan Brady: I mean,…

Nathan Brady: we are truly living.

Mike Smith: You don't believe in fiscal responsibility?

Mike Smith: Get the f*** out.

Nathan Brady: I mean,…

Nathan Brady: this is really interesting though, now that I'm looking, I mean, we all know everybody who had social studies, who had just a little bit of history knows about the Louisiana purchase, but I feel like we were talking about Andrew Jackson and…

Mike Smith: Right. Right. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: Lincoln earlier. Now we're talking about the last time we were buying land. the Florida acquisition happened in 1819…

Nathan Brady: where we obtained it did we buy? No, through a treaty in with Spain. I'm thinking, are we wait is this a circle? is time

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.

Mike Smith: It's a big stupid circle. The thing that I'll point out too is that the last land grabs that the US has done like you mentioned Puerto Rico obviously Guam the Virgin Islands these are all now US territories officially…

Mike Smith: but they're not states and they're certainly not getting the benefits that states get. they get to participate in the general election…

Nathan Brady: Right.

Mike Smith: but they don't get to participate by having representatives in Congress. They don't get to participate by having senators. So, they're really like, what would you call that? Where a nation occupies you and you don't have a say in their government. are we English imperialism circa 18th century? is that what's happening?

Nathan Brady: I mean I mean for sure we are looks like the Marshall Islands this is a list of Yeah.

Mike Smith: Good. You found a more exe conclusive list than I could find.

Nathan Brady: And then Yeah.

Nathan Brady: And then there was the war Puerto Rico and Guam were the SpanishAmerican War. and…

Mike Smith: Right. Right.

Nathan Brady: and then annexed and settlement with Britain and Germany. Panama Canal leased from Panama.

Nathan Brady: Purchased from Denmark. Maybe that's where we're getting this. We got the Virgin Islands from Denmark, so why not? this is Trump. We've talked about this before. Somebody told somebody explained Trump manifest destiny and…

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Mike Smith: Right. Right.

Nathan Brady: he's trying his own version.

Nathan Brady: Trump just wants to be on Mount Rushmore. He wants to be on the face of every bill of currency that we have. He wants to be responsible for expanding the US empire.

Nathan Brady: And he's doing this without any understanding of global politics. he has the understanding.

Mike Smith: Right. Right.

Mike Smith: Diplomacy or negotiation. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: Right. Right.

Mike Smith: It's all save rattling and chest thumping to him.

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Exactly.

Nathan Brady: He Yeah.

Mike Smith: It's the most hamfisted attempt at trying to make a lasting name for yourself.

Mike Smith: It's kind of amazing just how right. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: It's insane to live in these times. It's what's even more insane to me is people that don't know any of this is happening that aren't like paying attention to any of this…

Nathan Brady: which is really hard to do in these times. Yeah.

Mike Smith: It's not I think that we need to remember that there is a vast number of people in this country…

Mike Smith: who just hate politics and they hate politicians and they just don't have time or money or anything to pay attention to this stuff that they're trying to pay rent and make meals and get their kids to school and they literally have no time to deal with this***. And I wish I could turn off from this as well, but I'm not facing the same problems that these people are facing in that. but I think the more interesting thing here is the game plan.

Mike Smith: The sick of fans who are keeping him in power and letting him do whatever he wants. What's their game plan?

Nathan Brady: they are motivated.

Mike Smith: Let's Let me post.

Nathan Brady: Listen, I have some theories here.

Mike Smith: Go ahead. Okay. Right.

Nathan Brady: Things are very bad for these people and they have been bad and they've been looking for somebody to blame, And the person that they were blaming for the last four years was Biden,…

Mike Smith: All right.

Nathan Brady: right? because you just need somebody to blame.

Mike Smith: Are you talking about the voters?

Nathan Brady: I'm talking about Trump voters.

Mike Smith: I was talking specifically about the elected officials, but go on and…

Nathan Brady: …

Mike Smith: voters. I'll get to that.

Nathan Brady: elected officials have money and power to gain. that's a whole different one. loss of power. Right now, Trump has proven if you go against him, you're done in the political arena.

Nathan Brady: Look at Liz Cheney for instance, you're just Jeff Flake is another good example.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Right.

Nathan Brady: You're just done. Your career is over for as long as Trump exists. So these people like JD Vance who once called him Hitler realized that I actually need this guy to be relevant or I am not going to exist in politics anymore. So it is out of I believe mostly fear and power or lack of power that these people are allowing Trump to do what he's doing. from the Republican side from Go ahead.

Mike Smith: back to the constitutional crisis conversation from out the outset. But when you defy a judge's order,…

Mike Smith: right, and…

Nathan Brady: Mhm. Right.

Mike Smith: you eventually show that you are the infinite arm of the government and no one will help you. Congress isn't going to help you. The Senate's not going to chime in. Military acts on executive order, so you can't do anything. They're going to defy your Circling back to his executive order made in no uncertain terms, I do not care what the 14th says, if you were born in this country illegally, you are not a citizen.

Nathan Brady: Right. Yeah,…

Mike Smith: When the judges come back and tell him that he's insane on that, even if Scotas says, "No, you're wrong." and he has the executive and Congress and the Senate on his side saying we just don't care. what happens then?

Nathan Brady: we're gonna find out because it

Mike Smith: And then…

Nathan Brady: is 82 whatever.

Mike Smith: because I can't maybe not the next thing but the last thing that he will attempt if given that opportunity for this presidential cycle the 2024 28 cycle is he'll say that the amendment barring me to two presidential terms doesn't apply. I just don't care. I'm running again and what the f*** are you going to do about it? He's going to be 80 something. So maybe he won't,…

Nathan Brady: No. I think he would.

Mike Smith: but he certainly could.

Nathan Brady: I think if he's still alive, which odds are not very good that Trump will be alive to run again. I mean, that's just the way numbers work is that he's past the age of the average life expectancy already a of his health.

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Nathan Brady: It.

Mike Smith:

Mike Smith: Does that matter? I mean, I think he showed in this campaign in 24 that he was already in cognitive decline. I think we talked about it in the pod. I think I wrote a blog post about it on blue edition.com. Go check us out if you haven't. And I think that it was pretty clear and I think a lot of the news sources that I cited in that article made it clear that he was in cognitive decline at the outset of this campaign. if he's defying the Constitution and running for a third term anyway, does it matter if his brain's mush and he can't talk anymore? he dipped he dropped out of the second debate with Kla Harris…

Nathan Brady: I think it does. Yeah. …

Mike Smith: because he couldn't continue talking. He just couldn't do it. He didn't have the wherewithal.

Nathan Brady: his vocabulary is way worse than it used to be, I feel like you're right.

Nathan Brady: He's reminding me of Biden in 20,…

Mike Smith: Yeah. Today.

Nathan Brady: 2021, right? When he first took up, there was a huge difference between Biden in 2021 where we still saw, you and I saw this guy is in decline and…

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No.

Nathan Brady: the Biden that we saw six months ago who was clearly done. Nobody was voting for that guy. So, the only point I will make to that though is that when that happens to Trump, somebody is going to be there to grab that power because they're not going to allow Trump just won't have the Nobody will be afraid of him anymore. Nobody's afraid of Biden. maybe eight years ago, people were afraid of Biden as a strong leader of the Democratic party who had some pull, who could call in some favors.

Nathan Brady: Trump is not going to be able to pick up the phone and drool into it and threaten somebody else is going to be around that's going to want to grab that power. I don't think Trump is going to attempt a third.

Mike Smith: I think he will. Here's what I think.

Nathan Brady: All right.

Mike Smith: If he's alive and he can muster a sentence or two, they will ram him through the RNC and just say that he's the nominee. Too bad.

Mike Smith: And that, like you say, the vice president or whoever will ostensibly be pulling the strings. They'll just be like, he's a figurehead and we're just going to run everything through him because I don't think that this party continues with the success that it's seen without Trump.

Nathan Brady: I agree with that.

Nathan Brady: Unless all of MAGA can agree to Trump gives his fullthroated endorsement to

Mike Smith: Yeah. If he gives a fullthroated endorsement and this is the guy and then it somehow rallies everyone behind him.

Nathan Brady: Regular rep regular Yeah.

Mike Smith: But I'll point out even in MAGA controlled Congress, we had infighting amongst the MAGA people and the regular Republicans and they all feared, Trump's retribution if they didn't eventually get Yeah,…

Nathan Brady: Regular Republicans want their party back. They do. I mean, the Republicans that the Mitch McConnell Republicans, the ones that know there's backroom deals to be made, there's money to be made, there's power to be want the party back from the loud idiots like Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boowbert. because those people can't do that stuff correctly. They're not smart enough. They're idiots and they want their party back.

Mike Smith: I'll say that I don't think that that matters anymore.

Mike Smith: I mean, we elected a president who's a felon, so I don't think that scruples are the problem. yeah,…

Nathan Brady: No, it's not scruples,…

Nathan Brady: but it is about being able to navigate the political landscape in a way. Matt Gates is a perfect example. He Gates just blew it. I mean, other than being a sexual deviant, I mean, he could have been set for the rest of his life, and maybe he still is, but he's now anchoring an O, show, so

Mike Smith: maybe it's easier for him. But I'll counter that with I think that Matt Gates just didn't have the gumption to do it. rather if Trump were Matt Gates in that position, he just would have continued denying and moved forward and eventually been the AG. He wouldn't have cared and…

Mike Smith: he wouldn't have cared that he didn't have the votes and people were threatening. He would just gotten louder and louder and louder until it happened.

Nathan Brady: No. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah. but that's what I mean though. He had the ability to be like a Mitch McConnell type Republican. Instead, he went to be a Republican.

Nathan Brady: And not a lot of people are Trumplike is what I'm saying. I just don't think Yeah.

Mike Smith: I agree.

Mike Smith: That is the one saving grace is that I have not in my lifetime seen any Republican muster the type of following that Trump has. and…

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Nathan Brady: It's just I don't Yeah.

Mike Smith: while that's terrifying and ultimately terrible for the country, the good news is that he'll be dead soon or another.

Nathan Brady: And I don't think a Marjgerie Taylor Green type of person or…

Nathan Brady: a Lauren Boowbert type of person has the capabilities to rise to that kind of level. So I feel crazy…

Mike Smith: I Okay,…

Nathan Brady: though for arguing with you considering what we're seeing today what's going on.

Nathan Brady: I feel crazy for saying there is no possible way we will even see there's no remote possibility of a third Trump term. I feel crazy for arguing that. But I'm sticking to that. I'm going to die on that hill.

Mike Smith:

Mike Smith: and you're really do. I hope that where there's a normal reg like an admin from the past, the moment a federal judge that you didn't like or otherwise said, "What you're doing is unconstitutional," you would have held a press conference and said "I disagree on these grounds and blah blah blah, but we'll see them in court because that's the right thing to do." And it would have tuition.

Nathan Brady: which is essentially what Biden did with the college yeah yeah so that's the normal thing to do so yeah and…

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah. Forgiveness. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: I think at some point so I still know Republicans who thought

Nathan Brady: that and I'll say the fiscally conservative Republicans who thought that Trump was still going to be reigned in his first term wasn't that bad except for COVID, it's not going to be a constitutional crisis like you're all acting like it'll be. who are now seeing this and going, okay. There's no way I can support the destroying of the United States Constitution."

Nathan Brady: I mean this is what makes our country great.

Mike Smith: Are you seeing it?

Mike Smith: I admit it that I'm not on social media as much anymore and I try and try not to I kind of have to be for this, but I don't see social media of a lot of the people around me, I'll say, the people in my extended family as much. I see them a little bit. Sometimes I can't avoid it, but I have not seen people distancing themselves from this decision.

Nathan Brady: I think it's too early.

Mike Smith: I have seen many Republicans and I think I pointed this out during the Many Republicans in my orbit who were like that's not a Republican. I can't vote for him. I'm just not vote.

Nathan Brady: Yeah. Yeah.

Mike Smith: Which was amazing to me because I was like, "Wow, you still have some political scruples and some lines you won't cross." Which is not something I thought Republicans had by and large. …

Mike Smith: but I mean the very few people that I know are Trump supporters have not backed away from this at all.

Nathan Brady: I no I know Trump supporters they're going to die with Trump in my opinion and…

Nathan Brady: I think a lot of them will disappear from the political process. A lot of them will stay and be idiots and…

Nathan Brady: weirdos. but you're right. I have only seen a few people that I know kind of starting to back away a little bit from this start questioning what's going on.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: But I think as we get deeper into it, it's still a little early, but I think as we get deeper into this and constit this con constitutional crisis really ramps up, I think a lot more people I can only hope are going to I Yeah,…

Mike Smith: the light. I mean, I don't even know is it too far gone even at this point?

Nathan Brady: …

Mike Smith: I wonder because I said, we're going to see the constitutional crisis. We're there. we're living It's happening.

Nathan Brady: this is what's worrisome, right? CBS News poll,…

Nathan Brady: Trump has positive approval amid energetic opening weeks, seen as doing what he promised.

Mike Smith: He is I can't argue that he's doing…

Nathan Brady: Here is the point.

Mike Smith: what he promised. He's trying to deport people, American citizens, excuse me. he's trying to overturn the 14th Amendment. He's trying to fire everyone from the federal government. He promised all these things.

Nathan Brady: This is an interesting contrast though in this oll. 70% say that he is doing what he's promised as opposed to 30% saying otherwise. But the reason…

Mike Smith: Right. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: why his approval rating is lower than the number of people who are saying he's doing what he promised is because a lot of the people that voted for him said he won't do all of that. And I don't want him to. And now look.

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Mike Smith: Yeah. we talked about this yesterday, I think, but I know several, first generation Mexican-American immigrants…

Nathan Brady: Hey.

Mike Smith: who have children who are national citizens legally because they were born in America and they voted for Trump even though them and their children who are adults now are threatened to be deported by him. And I haven't seen any of that remorse yet. Now, admittedly, they haven't gotten, the letter in the mail or they haven't had ICE knock on their door yet, but that's what he He promised you that he was going to have ICE knock on your door, throw you in a van, take you to a detention center somewhere, an internment camp more like, and then deport you. To where? Not clear.

Nathan Brady: more people approve of him doing this than approve of Trump overall. And that means that's a scary thing,…

Mike Smith: Yeah. No,…

Mike Smith: what they say is that but I have to imagine that these are white people ostensibly who are like yes I don't care…

Nathan Brady: right? right?

Mike Smith: if it's technically illegal you should deport the Mexicans. that's just their stance. They don't care if it's legal or not. which is why the court orders that'll come out about the reading of the 14th soon saying you may not do this and him ignoring that and Congress not impeaching him for violating the court order is such a problem. It means the Constitution only means what the president thinks it means.

Nathan Brady: I can't believe that we haven't talked about Trump saying that he's basically going to take over Gaza.

Mike Smith: What a We talked about Greenland.

Nathan Brady: So recently,…

Mike Smith: We should talk about Gansa.

Nathan Brady: I don't remember, I don't know his exact quote, but recently he said something to the effect of, it's already flattened. We're going to go in there, we're going to clean it up, we're going to flatten it out out the rest of it.

Mike Smith: I've got two quotes here.

Nathan Brady: We're going to build a nice area. the US is going to take it over and manage it.

Mike Smith: I believe that these were both in roundt settings in the Oval Office where he was taking questions. Reporter says, "Some people say that this is ethnic cleansing." Trump responds, "We're moving them to a beautiful location where they'll have new homes, where they can live safely, where they will have doctors and medical and all those things." What are you talking about? Why would goins want to be relocated?

Nathan Brady: where I mean so I know that he is meeting with leaders from Jordan either today or…

Mike Smith: And B, where is this place? Are you sending them to heaven? Is that what's happening? Yes. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: tomorrow he's going to try and…

Mike Smith: Mhm. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: make some quote unquote deal where he's going to relocate Palestinians to these other countries. Please.

Mike Smith: And it's going to be the same. Let's say that it's successful. Let's say that he finds, a small citystate for the remaining Gazins, which, they've basically wiped 90% of them off the map at this point, but you find that place, it's in Jordan instead of, the West Bank. how is that not the same problem in a different country now? doesn't that just feel like you've just moved the ethnic cleansing from here to there and…

Mike Smith: we'll deal with it later? I don't understand.

Nathan Brady: Yeah, I don't even the not only does plan make no sense,…

Mike Smith: The plan makes no sense.

Nathan Brady: but at least this is something it looks like the vast majority of people in the United States disagree with or…

Mike Smith: Yeah. Right.

Nathan Brady: least don't understand. Only 13% of people think it would be a good idea for the US to take over Gaza.

Mike Smith: I mean,…

Nathan Brady: The I mean…

Mike Smith: and it's the same argument that we heard on the campaign trail about the migrant issue where we're just like, "Okay, How about the United States absorb the gazins who are displaced? We'll put them in America somewhere. People are going to be like, "We don't want them here. Why would we want them here?" And go, why would Jordan want them there?" don't they had a place that got bombed to hell by Israel, but they were there. They existed. Never mind.

Nathan Brady: what they deserve, what the people there deserve,

Nathan Brady: the Palestinians there deserve is being able to come home and reparations being made. just like any conflict where there was a party that did significant damage. and I think that was part of what they thought they were getting in this ceasefire deal and there was a lot of excitement and hope from people on the ground in Gaza.

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Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: I've watched a lot of reports of press who by the way have been targeted in wearing a press vest basically almost made you more of a target. yeah.

Mike Smith: And humanitarian efforts and things like that. Just people trying to feed people. People trying to like you said,…

Nathan Brady: Yeah.

Mike Smith: just trying to provide medical support, people who are trying to report on just what exactly is happening. Get some numbers and feet on the ground.

Nathan Brady: And I think we talked maybe did I don't know if we talked about it on the pod last week, but there was also that I believe it was like American Arabs for Trump that changed their name,…

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yes.

Nathan Brady: to American Arabs for Peace whatever it was.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: And I just wanted to say this. I don't because I don't remember if we talked about it last week, but it says something if you first of all, I don't want to tell those people I told you so. because for…

Nathan Brady: what they're going through is just awful, right?

Mike Smith: I think that it speaks to his gravitas…

Nathan Brady: But it also says something about how s** the Democratic party is that those people thought it would be better for them under Trump when we all knew it wouldn't be. And I think that we shared But I want…

Mike Smith: where he's a political outsider even still having been the president once before and now again. I think that there are people who are the Dems and the Republicans alike have proven to me by their action or inaction that they will not help me. I will take any unknown over the known ignorance that I get from them pushing them away. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: but I do not want to give him all of the credit for pulling those people.

Nathan Brady: I need to give a lot of credit to the Democratic party for kicking these people away. And there was a report and I'm showing it on the screen right now where one of the first replies is holy living f***. the Harris campaign organizer says that senior officials ordered them to erase voters who Just asked about Gaza, marking emails as no response so that they'd be removed from outreach. No engagement, no persuasion, just completely ignored.

Mike Smith: what we're talking about here. I mean, it's the parties. It's both parties,…

Mike Smith: but it's also the Democrats. you're refusing to find people and put them in your tent. You can help people. And I don't think that that's going to be a negative thing on the campaign trail, right? It's such a political W.

Nathan Brady: This is such a fiery,…

Nathan Brady: This was so easy to us who don't get funding from Apac or anything, you look at this and you go, I am never going to make a Zionist happy. I am never going to make any sort of extremist happy.

Mike Smith: Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: But what I can say as a member of a dem the Democratic party…

Nathan Brady: who stands for human rights who stands who should be against genocide in any form against any people we are going to do everything we can to stop this massacre to come to a peaceful resolution. How hard is it to say that to people who ask you about Gaza?

Mike Smith: Yeah. No.

Mike Smith: And I think that you and I even said it during the campaign run up in the pod where we're like, "Go behind, the closed doors, go talk to Ape and say,"I just going to say this, but I'm not going to do it." And then you go out and say it and you win this big rally about it and everybody keeps quiet because it's good for the gander, And then you just do the same thing Democrats always do, which is nothing. and everybody wins. It's a campaign win. if the goals feel heard, obviously it's not good for people,…

Mike Smith: but …

Nathan Brady: not good for people.

Nathan Brady: Of your responsibility as leaders of the Democratic party and…

Mike Smith: why wouldn't you even do that? And this is just such an avocation of your campaign. This is trying to lose category here.

Nathan Brady: this is why you got to give a lot of credit to the poorly educated.

Nathan Brady: You got to give a lot of credit to Trump's weird charisma and cultlike ability to drag people in and…

Mike Smith: Yeah, right.

Nathan Brady: get them lost in his hypnotizing routine that he does. But you also have to give so much credit to the Democratic party.

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Nathan Brady: I'll put them third on the list, but you still got to give them credit to the Democratic Party for consistently non-delivering and…

Nathan Brady: having terrible messaging. I mean,…

Mike Smith: It says it here.

Mike Smith: They saw an opportunity to increase scope and include people into the campaign and they just threw them away.

Mike Smith: I mean it doesn't get worse than that. that's trying to lose an election.

Nathan Brady: It really feels like it.

Nathan Brady: Okay.

Nathan Brady: So, we had a couple more things. I mean, I can't believe we're already at the hour mark. what do we…

Mike Smith: I have so many things that I need to talk about,…

Mike Smith: but I don't even think I'm going to get to Elon today.

Nathan Brady: what do we need to talk about? I mean, we might have to do two pods this week.

Mike Smith: I had a bunch of s*** that I wanted to talk about Elon,…

Nathan Brady: My god.

Mike Smith: and I don't think I'm going to get there.

Nathan Brady: You want to do the sequel one real quick?

Mike Smith: Let's do that one.

Nathan Brady: Let's just Okay.

Mike Smith: least that one's much more in our wheelhouse,…

Nathan Brady: Did you think by the way that at any point maybe four weeks ago that I would tell you in four weeks I'm going to be talking about a guy named Big Balls …

Mike Smith:

Mike Smith: and we can turn Yeah.

Nathan Brady: because he is going to play a significant role in US government.

Mike Smith: Yeah. I God.

Nathan Brady: Jesus Christ.

Mike Smith: right.

Nathan Brady: So I don't know you.

Mike Smith: What am I looking I think big balls is only 19.

Nathan Brady: So you're looking at here within a quote. I think by now everybody who at least listens to this pod knows that Elon Musk and his team of twins, no, his team of young 20-year-old racist engineers or engineer. no, I think it turns out he was 25 and he was 19 when that stuff happened or…

Mike Smith: When that photo was taken.

Nathan Brady: something like that.

Nathan Brady: Yeah, I think I can't spend my time searching big balls on Google…

Mike Smith: Okay. All right. I'm hearing a lot of weird stuff. Yeah. Look at big balls on your work computer. Yes.

Nathan Brady: because I was getting other results. yeah, I need to see the doctor. So, long long and short of it is Elon has mo as many times over his, career in the public view said some really stupid s*** that make people like you and for instance, who are in tech and other people who are leaders in their field go, " this guy actually has no clue what the f*** he's talking about in this particular field."

Nathan Brady: We were talked earlier about there not being like another Trump. I think Elon is very similar to Trump actually in a lot of ways and that he will basically say whatever he wants with authority and you will get some sense that what he's saying is true because why wouldn't it be true? He's a billionaire. He has an accent. he owns very intelligent looking companies SpaceX Tesla right yeah he's a genius right yeah

Mike Smith: of a Tony Starkesque where people are " he must know stuff because look how successful he is. He's got to be a smart guy." which I have fallen for when people act smart and talk smart and you feel like, " yeah, this guy must know what he's talking about." Because you never get a one-on-one where you actually get to talk ideas or beliefs opinion or anything. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: I use that sometimes to my advantage in places where I can, …

Mike Smith: Yeah. Right.

Nathan Brady: sometimes in tech, we have to talk about things that we're not quite sure about, but we know that we can back it up eventually with research and what? Okay, fine. Elon Musk was recently talking about the social security database and…

Mike Smith: Yeah. Fine.

Nathan Brady: saying that social security numbers are not dduplicated and all of this weird stuff about how the data is laid out. And somebody quote tweets him and says today I learned that Elon has never used SQL SQL.

Nathan Brady: And for those of you who are not techsavvy, and this is basically the query language that most major databases use.

Mike Smith: structured query language just in case anybody really wants to dig into it.

Mike Smith: Yeah, it's been the de facto language,…

Nathan Brady: Right. Right.

Mike Smith: whatever dialect you use across data storage for the last 40 years. This isn't even new.

Nathan Brady: Right. and…

Nathan Brady: there's three major players in this area and all of them use SQL. Right. Okay,…

Mike Smith: Right. Right.

Mike Smith: That's Yeah,…

Nathan Brady: so Elon responds with his favorite word lately,…

Mike Smith: that's why…

Nathan Brady: the politically incorrect retard. I don't know…

Mike Smith: why are we bringing this back? Why? Nobody used this word for 20 years basically in the mainstream and…

Nathan Brady: I don't know why I will tell you I made the mistake of going on Twitter.

Mike Smith:

Mike Smith: now we're just using it again. Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: I still have a personal account that I never use and every once in a while I log in and I go why did I accidentally log into this and I see something that enrages me so much that I have to make a wellthoughtout response to it and I give it and the first response back to me every single time is shut the f up retard and…

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Mike Smith: It's got everything.

Nathan Brady: that's what political discourse is on X so don't go on X but anyway Elon everything app only has people calling each other retard…

Mike Smith: Here's the screen.

Nathan Brady: because that's what Elon Musk does So Elon Musk responds with this retard thinks the government uses SQL. And let's just share. I like the I like the scribbles that you make.

Nathan Brady: As it turns out,…

Nathan Brady: the Treasury Department the Social Security Administration basically as far as I know, the DMV, NASA, any government agency that needs to store data in some structured form uses SQL.

Mike Smith: This happens to be my SQL.

Mike Smith: It's one of the three big players in that space like Nate said. But I mean, look at my SQL customers in government list and he's like this retard thinks that the social security administration use a sequel and I found this on without searching for one second and I saw the badge and I just started circling it so angrily and to I didn't think you were going to use it. Let's share it here. my rage.

Nathan Brady: This is the example of it's the same thing. who was it? some more news. I love huge shout out to Cody and…

Mike Smith: Yeah. Shout out to Cody and them in case they do great work.

Nathan Brady: Katie and everybody at and Jonathan is also there. Huge shout out to those guys at some more news. They did a great episode.

Mike Smith: Go check them out. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: I think we posted it on our blue ski. They did a great episode last week on Elon Musk thinks you're an idiot when the reality is I Elon Musk is an idiot.

Mike Smith: He's so dumb.

Nathan Brady: I'm sorry. You can turn around and say, "How can he be an idiot with billions of dollars?" And yeah, you're right. I mean, It's…

Mike Smith: We're all wondering that anything.

Nathan Brady: because there's a chart that is sociopath and motivation and willingness to say things like that like that is what makes you a billionaire.

Mike Smith: Yeah. No,…

Nathan Brady: not and then there are other billionaires…

Mike Smith: it actually speaks really well to…

Nathan Brady: who are intelligent.

Mike Smith: what you said before about him being sort of, Trumpian or Trump- where it's just like there's this certain just willingness to say whatever and…

Nathan Brady: Right. Right.

Mike Smith: say it with such authority and such magnanimism that you get people to believe you who don't really know 100%. like you said, they're I know 10% what you're saying, but you're saying it with such conviction and such obvious belief in yourself that you must know what you're talking about and…

Nathan Brady: I think Cody gave a great example of the Roman Empire he was talking about birth No,…

Mike Smith: his salute the

Nathan Brady: no, not the salute.

Mike Smith:

Nathan Brady: No, no, no, no, no.

Nathan Brady: Cody gave an example of the Roman Empire that he's the birth rate thing and…

Mike Smith: The birth rate thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: Elon saying that that was basically the downfall of the Roman empire and…

Nathan Brady: and then historians were like are you stupid or something? Are you had literally nothing to do with it and…

Mike Smith: There was 180 years between that event and…

Mike Smith: the fall of the Roman Empire. How are you going to link those two things?

Nathan Brady: and we see him in all kinds of other when he said that crap about chess we were on him immediately.

Mike Smith: But he says it like Yeah. Yeah.

Mike Smith: Anything that and…

Nathan Brady: we've done government work.

Mike Smith: again, I use SQL every f** day. I've had to do it for 40 years. of course we talk about it,…

Nathan Brady: We have You and I have specifically done government work.

Mike Smith: but we just so infuriating…

Nathan Brady: So man and it's so

Mike Smith: because he says it tongue and cheek, but it's the most obviously false statement. he thinks he's got you he's like this guy,…

Nathan Brady: If you read any book,…

Mike Smith:

Mike Smith: what an idiot. And it's like, you're so dumb for saying that.

Nathan Brady: if you read any book not sponsored by Elon himself,…

Mike Smith: So dumb.

Nathan Brady: whoever the biography writers are, if you read any book about Elon and his businesses, I think the most recent really good book was called Character Limit, which I really enjoyed, you will find hundreds of examples of people working within these companies going, "* did what the f*** are you talking about?

Mike Smith: Figuring it out very slowly going, "What did he say?

Nathan Brady: Are you?" Yeah.

Mike Smith: I just heard that. What did he say?" SpaceX and…

Nathan Brady: Look, so I mean there's engineers at SpaceX have come out and said Elon doesn't run this.

Mike Smith: Twitter and…

Nathan Brady: He doesn't work here.

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Mike Smith: Yeah. Tesla,…

Nathan Brady: He doesn't know what he's talking about. he has a elementary knowledge of any of this stuff.

Mike Smith: He hasn't.

Nathan Brady: Same at Tesla.

Nathan Brady: And then he comes out and tries to say, "I don't buy companies. I build them from scratch." And the reality is he doesn't do that. everybody knows that.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah. Not him apparently.

Nathan Brady: Not him, I guess. I am going to come out and say, Mike, I think we might have to do another episode this week because not only do we have so much more left today that we could have talked about, I think by the time we get to Thursday, we're going to probably hear some things from the federal courts.

Mike Smith: Yeah. I mean,…

Nathan Brady: We're gonna I'm so excited.

Mike Smith: tomorrow the deadline for that ruling for the government to acquies to the federal court's order is midnight tonight, tomorrow something's going to happen.

Nathan Brady: It's so exciting. I'd like to be living in another country and experiencing how exciting this is, but here we are. I will tell you, we were worried that the writers of the previous season of America were getting a little bit lazy.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Jesus Christ.

Nathan Brady: s***'s gotten wild.

Nathan Brady: They really picked it up for this season. I got to give it to them. I didn't expect all these twists and turns. Yeah.

Mike Smith: I didn't expect violates Constitution and government bends over. I didn't have that on my bingo card. I think early on I was talking about the 14th as our last saving grace and…

Nathan Brady: I mean,…

Mike Smith: they're just not going to do anything when he violates it.

Nathan Brady: they're just going to ignore the Constitution. and this is the party of law and order, never has been.

Nathan Brady: I think this is a good place to wrap. maybe I'd really like to come back with another episode. Maybe we can try and pull one out on Thursday or Friday or something. we'll give it the old try.

Mike Smith: We'll try and…

Mike Smith: give it a shot. We'll give it the old college try.

Nathan Brady: Although Friday is Valentine's Day. I don't know if you want to hear from us on Valentine's Day. But maybe we could do a special Valentine's Day episode. okay everyone.

Nathan Brady: We said in the beginning of the episode, but we'll say it one more time. help us out. It was really great.

Nathan Brady: I think we crossed 100 subscribers. we've only been around doing this for, a couple months now. so that's exciting. thank you for the 100 subscribers. yeah, we picked up six or seven subscribers last week. We don't do anything. We don't have any advertisers. we're not pushing ourselves out there.'re on Blue Sky. We're on Apple. We're on YouTube. We're not trying to make a living out of this.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: But we do really enjoy it and we love talking to people about politics as long as you know it doesn't get too crazy. yeah, please don't do that.

Mike Smith: As long as you don't call us retards,…

Mike Smith: be civil and…

Nathan Brady: I mean Yeah.

Mike Smith: I'll talk to We I will say on the YouTube channel, we had a lot of comments and a lot of people that I did, you and I both did have conversations with. That was very nice. Leave comments. We all know, we can be civil about this and disagree. we've had people on the pod before…

Mike Smith: who live commented with us who we just don't see, eye to eye on things, but we can talk in a way where we can hopefully make each other understand our positions without, being completely offensive people.

Nathan Brady: Yeah, I mean that's the other thing too is we are definitely going to start looking to have I've reached out to a couple of people I'd love to have on…

Mike Smith: Let's give it a shot. Yeah. We're new.

Nathan Brady: although one of them has kind of blown up recently and I don't know if I can still get her but we're still lowly on the totem pole.

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.

Nathan Brady: We're still new at this thing and we're still learning as we go too. but if you guys have anybody you'd like to see on any topics you'd like us to cover more in depth, leave comments, shoot us a message on Blue Sky. That's where we're most likely to respond or in a comment here and we'll do our best. so yeah, once again, thanks for listening and we'll see you next time. Bye.

Mike Smith:

Mike Smith: Thanks everybody. Have a good one.

Nathan Brady: All Good show.

Mike Smith: Yeah, we did better about keeping the tone.

Nathan Brady: High energy.

Mike Smith: Yeah, we did better about keeping the tone out of the dumps. I think that one problem we had midway through last episode was midway we're like,…

Nathan Brady: Yeah. We just keep falling. Yeah. Yeah.

Mike Smith: "f** hate this place. We're going the world." Like keeping that energy higher up…

Nathan Brady: Yeah. I think it was good to split it up with something that was completely ridiculous like the red,…

Mike Smith: where we're just like, "Okay, I don't want to kill myself. Let's

Nathan Brady: white, and blue land,

Mike Smith: Yeah. Yeah.

Mike Smith: Finding some silly stuff to throw in the middle definitely keeps us from spiraling,…

Nathan Brady: Yeah. From dying.

Mike Smith: which is good from being dead.

Nathan Brady: From being dead.

Mike Smith: I got to take a wikipa. So, I'll see you.

Nathan Brady: right. Bye.

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